EPTDiablo? Main character, gets killed in Diablo 2
Warcraft? Arthas, gets killed in WoW.
Starcraft? Kerrigan, ISN´T dead (yet).
[Spoilers] Disappointed with the campaign... - Page 2
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
Diablo? Main character, gets killed in Diablo 2 Warcraft? Arthas, gets killed in WoW. Starcraft? Kerrigan, ISN´T dead (yet). | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On August 04 2010 14:58 MIKE HUTN EASY wrote: hahahahahahahahahahahahaha omg you put all this effort in to complete crap, Tychus was working for mobeius,not mengsk, and say w/e you want like oh same thing, it wasn't, tychus wanted to be free stated when he fights raynor and says he got a taste of freedom and thats what he wants, he wanted to take down mengsk, seriously if your going to complain about plot holes you should have a half competent understand of the plot, I think you were the one hit in the head before this game, but thanks for the LULZ Hey, despite the irony of you calling the original poster an idiot with a post filled with grammatical errors and a name in all caps, theres one glaring flaw with that gibberish you decided to vomit out onto this thread: Tychus was ordered by Mengsk in the ending cinematic to take out Kerrigan. He was working for Mengsk. I agree with the OP in the part about how Raynor vowed to kill Kerrigan in BW. It was like he completely forgot that his comrade in arms Fenix was murdered at her hands in SC2. Im sure hes raging at Tassadar in the afterlife | ||
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hoppipolla
Australia782 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
If you take it as a story by itself it's not too bad. You just have to accept that the characters aren't the same anymore. | ||
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
On August 04 2010 19:35 hoppipolla wrote: Wait, what's up with Tassadar anyway? He comes flying out of nowhere "Sup Zeratul, not really dead LOL" then just flies away and you never see him again?? Is he a god now? Is he a Xel'naga? That was such a stupid part, just leave dead characters dead. If I see Tychus or Fenix alive in Heart of the SwarmI'll be raging hardcore and stop caring about the story completely. Yes, this. What made BW and SC good for more mature and an older audience was that Blizzard had the guts to e.g. kill "main" characters. Makes the story much more believable and touching. They should leave them dead. But all the people that are writing, "Raynor swored to kill Kerrigan". I can't believe that you completely ignore the fact that infested Kerrigan is not Kerrigan. It was the Zerg part that killed, backstabbed etc. Now the good, almost saint'ish Kerrigan is possibly back, whom which Raynor is in love with, and you want him to kill her? Infested Kerrigan is dead, thats what Raynor swored. Also at the OP. I have to disagree with almost everything. The news channel we are whatching is so blatantly obviously a "tribute" to the bad news channels IRL like Fox news. That are so biased it is laughable. In the world of SC there should be so many news channels, and Blizzard is simply showcasing some of the more hilarious ones. A channel that is amateurishly produced and only have one reporter and an anchorman. This is how I see it anyway. I might come back to the other points you make and try to address them. | ||
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nemanja1503
Serbia49 Posts
But all the people that are writing, "Raynor swored to kill Kerrigan". I can't believe that you completely ignore the fact that infested Kerrigan is not Kerrigan. It was the Zerg part that killed, backstabbed etc. Now the good, almost saint'ish Kerrigan is possibly back, whom which Raynor is in love with, and you want him to kill her? Infested Kerrigan is dead, thats what Raynor swored. True, but still he had to have doubts if the strange alien relic we know almost nothing about will work properly. And this should make him have doubts on what to do. Go with this crazy plan and attempt to save her in hope she will be healed or just cap her and be rid of her. This could be presented in game in a few dialogues, then he makes up his mind and sticks to it. It's not much but that would make for a more deep story in my humble opinion. Also at the OP. I have to disagree with almost everything. The news channel we are whatching is so blatantly obviously a "tribute" to the bad news channels IRL like Fox news. That are so biased it is laughable. In the world of SC there should be so many news channels, and Blizzard is simply showcasing some of the more hilarious ones. A channel that is amateurishly produced and only have one reporter and an anchorman. This is how I see it anyway. UNN news are not one of the news channels they are the news channel. They are extremely powerful and in the time of the Confederacy had access to some of the greatest secrets of the Confederacy, but choose to bury them because they were the tool of the government even then. They are by far the biggest and most influential channel in the Dominion. So these kinds of slip up's can't be tolerated. And yes I am not daft I noticed it's rather silly and completely biased. However in the relations to the Mengks-retard issue I had to bring it up. I might come back to the other points you make and try to address them. Please do. | ||
ArvickHero
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alsowikk
109 Posts
On August 04 2010 14:47 TriniMasta wrote: always knew Tychus was a douchebag, I think the campaign is a bit too short. after seeing what happened to the zerg after the All-in mission (or at least most of it), Idk how anyones going to want to play Zerg in the campaign, especially without it's main leader Tychus actually found a wierd way to have a noble death. If he hadn't fired the reactor in his suit would have been overloaded and killed them all. But since he let Jim see the laser(and come on you know he didn't need to aim for that long) Jim killed him and saved his friend from a terrible terrible death(and terrible terrible damage to his internal organs). The zerg change the most when they are in times of trouble, in other words even with weak kerrigan the zerg still will function but will need more species(read units :D). To everyone asking why Jim "forgets" about Fenix he didn't. In fact he has his revenge against infested Kerrigan. He killed the infested parts of her(that were why she tried to become the queen bitch of the universe) while still leaving her alive. His revenge was to destroy the infestted kerrigan so he "saved" and "destroyed" her(something like the Xel'naga saving species from death but destroying their actual species(they become the next Xel'naga). | ||
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Bazinga
Germany132 Posts
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
It's just not believable in the slightest, and the deliberately cheesy parts (the news casts) are not funny but just dumb most of the time. Oh, she almost said "Raynor" and got cut off (for the 20th time), ha ha. In addition to what OP has mentioned, I also thought that the meeting with Valerian scene was disgustingly bad. Hey look, a fleet of enemy battlecruisers has just jumped in, how about we with our one ship charge, board the flagship, capture it and kill Mengsk, now that's a good plan! The invasion of Char makes about as much sense. In the end of BW, BOTH the terrans and the protoss were crushed by the Zerg and forced to run. Zerg ruled the Universe. Then 4 years later, a PART of the dominion fleet that couldn't even hold the Zerg attack on their own worlds is able to invade the Zerg homeworld and kill their leader? | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On August 04 2010 20:52 Bazinga wrote: I think it's weird that everybody only thinks about Mengsk as the big enemy here, because it was clearly pointed out, that the one who wants to see kerrigan dead is the dark voice. And perhaps exactly that one is behind all of it, controlling mengsk or stuff like that. god.. I can see it now.. Mengsk was actually being mind controlled all along, or he's been long dead and been replaced w/ a look-alike puppet, explains all his retardation and actions! As for Kerrigan, she was just depressed and wanted to end it all, so that's how HALF a fleet succeeded in Char! Don't know what they can do about Raynor though, explaining his character changes is gonna be tough. | ||
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Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
On August 04 2010 21:00 ArvickHero wrote: god.. I can see it now.. Mengsk was actually being mind controlled all along, or he's been long dead and been replaced w/ a look-alike puppet, explains all his retardation and actions! As for Kerrigan, she was just depressed and wanted to end it all, so that's how HALF a fleet succeeded in Char! Don't know what they can do about Raynor though, explaining his character changes is gonna be tough. The booze man, it's all the booze. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
speaking of which.. that man can sure hold his liquor. Does a ton of drinking and doesn't show any impairment of motor/speech functions at all. | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
On August 04 2010 20:52 Bazinga wrote: I think it's weird that everybody only thinks about Mengsk as the big enemy here, because it was clearly pointed out, that the one who wants to see kerrigan dead is the dark voice. And perhaps exactly that one is behind all of it, controlling mengsk or stuff like that. I think the story becomes not only plausible, but fascinating when you consider possibilities like this. + Show Spoiler + Tychus answer to Arcturus, Arcturus answers to Duran (secret mission basically confirms the two are working together), and Duran answers to the dark voice. Duran wants Kerrigan dead so that the hybrids could enslave the zerg and destroy the rest of the protoss, as seen in the final Zeratul mission. Given that Duran is probably more powerful than Mengsk and has all kinds of unknown Xel'Naga powers, I'm guessing Mengsk was a pawn of Duran, which explains why he was a bumbling fool throughout the campaign and used Tychus to attempt to kill Kerrigan. Mengsk "knew" that Raynor would want to kill Kerrigan as well after the events of Brood War, but had no idea that Zeratul showed Raynor his memories, so Mengsk could not have known that Raynor actually did not want Kerrigan dead. The question remains though, who is the dark voice? A good Xel'Naga, an evil Xel'Naga, or the KL-2 entity? | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 04 2010 19:24 Unentschieden wrote: Well there is the fact that Blizzard ALWAYS has Heroes get corrupted, but never before do these guys and gals have to deal with their sins. Diablo? Main character, gets killed in Diablo 2 Warcraft? Arthas, gets killed in WoW. Starcraft? Kerrigan, ISN´T dead (yet). id be perfectly happy if just once the evil person just raped the galaxy. Kerrigan can win, I would be happy with such an outcome.... and yes the story has gotten kinda shallow >.> | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
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Shaithis
United States383 Posts
Also, miraS naruD, the head of Moebius Foundation; wtf are we in 3rd grade still? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On August 04 2010 14:01 OneFierceZealot wrote: OH! this! haha. - but seriously, stop bitchin about the story. it was great for a videogame. i mean even mass effect or heavy rain has their own cheesy moments, videogames are still up and coming. give them time. as for the plot holes or things that aren't very realistic, well its sci-fi. its fiction. But Raynor said it isnt  Anyways, the story really was too cheesy and simple for my taste. I disagree about Tychus being a big deal, I guess he just wanted him to help Rayner fight Zerg and then kill kerrigan and Tychus never reported anything because people woulda found out about that (someone like Tosh surely). Although it seems weird to send some super secret special ops to kill Kerrigan, when 99.9999% of ALL terrans wanna see kerrigan dead. I can live with a little logical flaw though, how manny hollywood movies have them? So yeah it's not a huge deal imo, but overall all the dialogues were just so cheesy and I started disliking most characters, especially Raynor unfortunately. The one that seemed the coolest and the most like some character from a hollywood flick (rather than B-movie style characters) was Valerian. And yeah Mengsk definitely seemed like an idiot. Overall I'm not hugely disappointed though, the missions (= the important part of the game) were still very very creative and original imo. Dont care if its filler story-wise or not, the gameplay was good.How many missions were exactly like the other? none, really. On August 04 2010 21:37 Shaithis wrote: Also, miraS naruD, the head of Moebius Foundation; wtf are we in 3rd grade still? hahaha I actually hadnt realised that, though I never even heard or registered what the head of mf was called like, its tough hearing out fantasy/sci fi names when english isnt your original language. | ||
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Spaceninja
United States211 Posts
I remember in SC1 I loved the plot. but blizzard just took my childhood and took a HUGE SHIT ON IT. | ||
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Phrencys
Canada270 Posts
But w/e, Tychus apparently got in touch with Moebius while working for Mengsk at the same time... But honestly Duran became a shapeshifter or went Mikeal Jackson or something? He didn't come anything close to Narud's appearance in SC1. | ||
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