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mkfk1
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
August 03 2010 22:30 GMT
#61
On August 04 2010 07:25 DocSnyder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 07:13 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:04 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:58 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:44 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:33 mkfk1 wrote:
I bet this DocSnyder guy works for blizzard or some hardcore blizzard fan boy or something.



Thats not true,im actually on a salary,oh and Blizzards is trying to assume control of the world and make people like sc2s plot,so we can band and fight the hybrids together.....


Blizzard is indeed trying to exert control. Everything from e-sports, to b-net 2.0 regulation, to map publishing, to selling 3 games because "there are too much story to fit into one", and now we have WOL where more than half of the missions are fucking fillers.


And yes, we will all fight the hybrid on the 3rd or even 4th expansions to protect the world tree...I mean the K- sector. Who knows, maybe the UED will sent a 2nd fleet with fillers to collect minerals and artifacts for a 5th expansion.

Blizzard if you are reading this, I want half my money back, because you sold me half a game.


Yeah and i want my youth back,oh and cookies.....

U kidding me with this,now people are making demands and threats at Blizz,LOL

Jesus frigging christ,they didnt force you to buy the game...cant stop lathing................. . . . . .


No, but they make a bad single player, and over hyped it with false advertisement such as their panel at blizzcon about "so much story that it cant fit into one game". What a load of bull crap.

I will definitely pirate their expansion next time before making a decision buying. At least I am a smart consumer, unlike you who happen to be a brainless blizzard fan boy.




Again getting personal,how old are you people 12.......,,,damn its my way or the high way,,,oh and pirating makes you a smart consumer.

Damn ive pirated plenty of things in my day,but ive never thought i was a smart consumer.Tisk,tisk,tisk kids these days have no manners



Looking at this thread, people will most likely consider you as the stupid kid in here. Only you who try to yell at other people for not agreeing with you.

As it has been shown in many single player reviews on TL, most of the people hate the single player story aspect. And on the Internet, there will always be kids like you who try to argue his way to try to spin the reality.

Even if you want to defend the single player, you should at least make some effort. Your arguments were weak as hell.
DocSnyder
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany137 Posts
August 03 2010 22:36 GMT
#62
On August 04 2010 07:30 mkfk1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 07:25 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:13 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:04 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:58 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:44 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:33 mkfk1 wrote:
I bet this DocSnyder guy works for blizzard or some hardcore blizzard fan boy or something.



Thats not true,im actually on a salary,oh and Blizzards is trying to assume control of the world and make people like sc2s plot,so we can band and fight the hybrids together.....


Blizzard is indeed trying to exert control. Everything from e-sports, to b-net 2.0 regulation, to map publishing, to selling 3 games because "there are too much story to fit into one", and now we have WOL where more than half of the missions are fucking fillers.


And yes, we will all fight the hybrid on the 3rd or even 4th expansions to protect the world tree...I mean the K- sector. Who knows, maybe the UED will sent a 2nd fleet with fillers to collect minerals and artifacts for a 5th expansion.

Blizzard if you are reading this, I want half my money back, because you sold me half a game.


Yeah and i want my youth back,oh and cookies.....

U kidding me with this,now people are making demands and threats at Blizz,LOL

Jesus frigging christ,they didnt force you to buy the game...cant stop lathing................. . . . . .


No, but they make a bad single player, and over hyped it with false advertisement such as their panel at blizzcon about "so much story that it cant fit into one game". What a load of bull crap.

I will definitely pirate their expansion next time before making a decision buying. At least I am a smart consumer, unlike you who happen to be a brainless blizzard fan boy.




Again getting personal,how old are you people 12.......,,,damn its my way or the high way,,,oh and pirating makes you a smart consumer.

Damn ive pirated plenty of things in my day,but ive never thought i was a smart consumer.Tisk,tisk,tisk kids these days have no manners



Looking at this thread, people will most likely consider you as the stupid kid in here. Only you who try to yell at other people for not agreeing with you.

As it has been shown in many single player reviews on TL, most of the people hate the single player story aspect. And on the Internet, there will always be kids like you who try to argue his way to try to spin the reality.

Even if you want to defend the single player, you should at least make some effort. Your arguments were weak as hell.



Oh please i give up,just dont care why you think and i dont want to convince anyone of anything....If youre insisting you got cheated by Blizz go cry to someone who cares,and i did make effort...

If you insist they were week,prove me wrong...instead of crying for your 60 bucks.....


Damn i cant max this game:(
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
August 03 2010 22:42 GMT
#63
On August 04 2010 07:11 andrewlt wrote:
I actually liked the overarching plot. My really big gripe is about the optional missions. I hated them. That structure dragged down the story.

It would be one thing if the player was given a choice between which of two missions to complete first but the player had to complete both of them before advancing further in the story. It's another thing to have missions that are completely optional and have the game assume that the player never completed them.

I could understand if the Haven and Tosh arcs were left optional. But the game shouldn't have allowed the player to continue to Char without first completing the Zeratul and Horner arcs. The story assumed that only the Tychus arc was completed, which made the last arc have too many bad plot holes.

The ending was way too short, too. There were just way too much loose ends that they should've had a long cinematic and some more lines of text to explain things. We don't even have a good bridge to the next expansion.


Yeah I absolutely agree. Another aproach would have been if you could take the Tosh OR the Hanson subplot but then force you to finish whatever you took.

Cliffhangers are annoying but yeah, they could have used a lead in to HotS. I´d have imagined a "epiloge" Mission where Valerian wants to capture Kerrigan and Raynor has to escape with her. A bit like the last Mission of the very first Terran campaign.
mkfk1
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
August 03 2010 22:46 GMT
#64
On August 04 2010 07:36 DocSnyder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 07:30 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:25 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:13 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:04 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:58 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:44 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:33 mkfk1 wrote:
I bet this DocSnyder guy works for blizzard or some hardcore blizzard fan boy or something.



Thats not true,im actually on a salary,oh and Blizzards is trying to assume control of the world and make people like sc2s plot,so we can band and fight the hybrids together.....


Blizzard is indeed trying to exert control. Everything from e-sports, to b-net 2.0 regulation, to map publishing, to selling 3 games because "there are too much story to fit into one", and now we have WOL where more than half of the missions are fucking fillers.


And yes, we will all fight the hybrid on the 3rd or even 4th expansions to protect the world tree...I mean the K- sector. Who knows, maybe the UED will sent a 2nd fleet with fillers to collect minerals and artifacts for a 5th expansion.

Blizzard if you are reading this, I want half my money back, because you sold me half a game.


Yeah and i want my youth back,oh and cookies.....

U kidding me with this,now people are making demands and threats at Blizz,LOL

Jesus frigging christ,they didnt force you to buy the game...cant stop lathing................. . . . . .


No, but they make a bad single player, and over hyped it with false advertisement such as their panel at blizzcon about "so much story that it cant fit into one game". What a load of bull crap.

I will definitely pirate their expansion next time before making a decision buying. At least I am a smart consumer, unlike you who happen to be a brainless blizzard fan boy.




Again getting personal,how old are you people 12.......,,,damn its my way or the high way,,,oh and pirating makes you a smart consumer.

Damn ive pirated plenty of things in my day,but ive never thought i was a smart consumer.Tisk,tisk,tisk kids these days have no manners



Looking at this thread, people will most likely consider you as the stupid kid in here. Only you who try to yell at other people for not agreeing with you.

As it has been shown in many single player reviews on TL, most of the people hate the single player story aspect. And on the Internet, there will always be kids like you who try to argue his way to try to spin the reality.

Even if you want to defend the single player, you should at least make some effort. Your arguments were weak as hell.



Oh please i give up,just dont care why you think and i dont want to convince anyone of anything....If youre insisting you got cheated by Blizz go cry to someone who cares,and i did make effort...

If you insist they were week,prove me wrong...instead of crying for your 60 bucks.....




Like wise, people in here dont care about your yelling and attempt to convince people that the single player story was great. The majority thinks it sucks, and I dont blame them.

And I pre order my for only 24.99 pounds. With today exchange rate, is about 35-40 dollars. I am happy with that actually. But that still doesnt cover the bad single player story line.

Well, time to hit b net for some 1v1 and UMS instead of talking to some german kid who will lick blizzard balls.
DocSnyder
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany137 Posts
August 03 2010 22:52 GMT
#65
On August 04 2010 07:46 mkfk1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 07:36 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:30 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:25 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:13 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:04 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:58 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:44 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:33 mkfk1 wrote:
I bet this DocSnyder guy works for blizzard or some hardcore blizzard fan boy or something.



Thats not true,im actually on a salary,oh and Blizzards is trying to assume control of the world and make people like sc2s plot,so we can band and fight the hybrids together.....


Blizzard is indeed trying to exert control. Everything from e-sports, to b-net 2.0 regulation, to map publishing, to selling 3 games because "there are too much story to fit into one", and now we have WOL where more than half of the missions are fucking fillers.


And yes, we will all fight the hybrid on the 3rd or even 4th expansions to protect the world tree...I mean the K- sector. Who knows, maybe the UED will sent a 2nd fleet with fillers to collect minerals and artifacts for a 5th expansion.

Blizzard if you are reading this, I want half my money back, because you sold me half a game.


Yeah and i want my youth back,oh and cookies.....

U kidding me with this,now people are making demands and threats at Blizz,LOL

Jesus frigging christ,they didnt force you to buy the game...cant stop lathing................. . . . . .


No, but they make a bad single player, and over hyped it with false advertisement such as their panel at blizzcon about "so much story that it cant fit into one game". What a load of bull crap.

I will definitely pirate their expansion next time before making a decision buying. At least I am a smart consumer, unlike you who happen to be a brainless blizzard fan boy.




Again getting personal,how old are you people 12.......,,,damn its my way or the high way,,,oh and pirating makes you a smart consumer.

Damn ive pirated plenty of things in my day,but ive never thought i was a smart consumer.Tisk,tisk,tisk kids these days have no manners



Looking at this thread, people will most likely consider you as the stupid kid in here. Only you who try to yell at other people for not agreeing with you.

As it has been shown in many single player reviews on TL, most of the people hate the single player story aspect. And on the Internet, there will always be kids like you who try to argue his way to try to spin the reality.

Even if you want to defend the single player, you should at least make some effort. Your arguments were weak as hell.



Oh please i give up,just dont care why you think and i dont want to convince anyone of anything....If youre insisting you got cheated by Blizz go cry to someone who cares,and i did make effort...

If you insist they were week,prove me wrong...instead of crying for your 60 bucks.....




Like wise, people in here dont care about your yelling and attempt to convince people that the single player story was great. The majority thinks it sucks, and I dont blame them.

And I pre order my for only 24.99 pounds. With today exchange rate, is about 35-40 dollars. I am happy with that actually. But that still doesnt cover the bad single player story line.

Well, time to hit b net for some 1v1 and UMS instead of talking to some german kid who will lick blizzard balls.


My god ,If had you here id beat the crap out of you...,so me having a different opinion means you got to insult me,i think the storys good,you - its god awful,doesnt give you the right to insult me,i didnt try to convince anyone of anything nor do i care,i just wanted to discuss......and i didnt insult people for not agreeing,the only one who acts like a stupid kid is you,trashing me with every......what makes you think you know anything about anything u brainless dushe...
Damn i cant max this game:(
FecalFrown
Profile Joined June 2010
215 Posts
August 03 2010 22:57 GMT
#66
On August 03 2010 09:21 Bibdy wrote:
I'd write the story first, then build a campaign formula around it, not the other way around. Its just obvious. They wanted a campaign where the player runs around gathering units and technologies. How do we motivate Raynor into doing this? Eh, let's just say the rebellion isn't going well and give them 20 side-quests to unlock whatever units they like and then we'll get to the meat and bones of the story. What's the story again? I dunno, I guess we'll need a way to get the Zerg to do a similar thing in the next expansion. How do we do that? How do they forget what they've evolved? The player would have to start out with Zerglings and Roaches and then get better stuff. Oh, I know! What if we cure Kerrigan, so she starts working with Raynor & Co. and then she has to run around the galaxy picking up new Zerg strains to add to her arsenal and get into some big confrontation with Mengsk to finish it off? Brilliant! And then Zeratul can start off with Zealots and Stalkers and rush around the galaxy gathering Protoss tribes and technology for the final confrontation. Oh man, we're good.



Oh God this. I didn't even think about the fact that they might revert us back to tier 1 in Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void, just for the sake of the new kids on the block to learn what a zealot is.

Honestly, I thought it was poorly done. People play single player mainly for the story. (At least I do). Much less so for the gameplay, although thats obviously important. However, I could care less about all the units and cool technologies I garner during the course of the campaign, that lasts a maximum of 16 hours of game time. I would rather the story be tight and clean, multiplayer and custom games are where I get to mess around with awesome hardware.
mkfk1
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
August 03 2010 22:58 GMT
#67
On August 04 2010 07:52 DocSnyder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 07:46 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:36 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:30 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:25 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:13 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:04 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:58 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:44 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:33 mkfk1 wrote:
I bet this DocSnyder guy works for blizzard or some hardcore blizzard fan boy or something.



Thats not true,im actually on a salary,oh and Blizzards is trying to assume control of the world and make people like sc2s plot,so we can band and fight the hybrids together.....


Blizzard is indeed trying to exert control. Everything from e-sports, to b-net 2.0 regulation, to map publishing, to selling 3 games because "there are too much story to fit into one", and now we have WOL where more than half of the missions are fucking fillers.


And yes, we will all fight the hybrid on the 3rd or even 4th expansions to protect the world tree...I mean the K- sector. Who knows, maybe the UED will sent a 2nd fleet with fillers to collect minerals and artifacts for a 5th expansion.

Blizzard if you are reading this, I want half my money back, because you sold me half a game.


Yeah and i want my youth back,oh and cookies.....

U kidding me with this,now people are making demands and threats at Blizz,LOL

Jesus frigging christ,they didnt force you to buy the game...cant stop lathing................. . . . . .


No, but they make a bad single player, and over hyped it with false advertisement such as their panel at blizzcon about "so much story that it cant fit into one game". What a load of bull crap.

I will definitely pirate their expansion next time before making a decision buying. At least I am a smart consumer, unlike you who happen to be a brainless blizzard fan boy.




Again getting personal,how old are you people 12.......,,,damn its my way or the high way,,,oh and pirating makes you a smart consumer.

Damn ive pirated plenty of things in my day,but ive never thought i was a smart consumer.Tisk,tisk,tisk kids these days have no manners



Looking at this thread, people will most likely consider you as the stupid kid in here. Only you who try to yell at other people for not agreeing with you.

As it has been shown in many single player reviews on TL, most of the people hate the single player story aspect. And on the Internet, there will always be kids like you who try to argue his way to try to spin the reality.

Even if you want to defend the single player, you should at least make some effort. Your arguments were weak as hell.



Oh please i give up,just dont care why you think and i dont want to convince anyone of anything....If youre insisting you got cheated by Blizz go cry to someone who cares,and i did make effort...

If you insist they were week,prove me wrong...instead of crying for your 60 bucks.....




Like wise, people in here dont care about your yelling and attempt to convince people that the single player story was great. The majority thinks it sucks, and I dont blame them.

And I pre order my for only 24.99 pounds. With today exchange rate, is about 35-40 dollars. I am happy with that actually. But that still doesnt cover the bad single player story line.

Well, time to hit b net for some 1v1 and UMS instead of talking to some german kid who will lick blizzard balls.


My god ,If had you here id beat the crap out of you...,so me having a different opinion means you got to insult me,i think the storys good,you - its god awful,doesnt give you the right to insult me,i didnt try to convince anyone of anything nor do i care,i just wanted to discuss......and i didnt insult people for not agreeing,the only one who acts like a stupid kid is you,trashing me with every......what makes you think you know anything about anything u brainless dushe...


Now now boy, dont get violent. The last time German try to fight, you guys ended up losing and separated into 2 countries for 50 years.

Go and vent out your anger at the single player and play it 500 more times, since you love it so much.
DocSnyder
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany137 Posts
August 03 2010 23:05 GMT
#68
On August 04 2010 07:58 mkfk1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 07:52 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:46 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:36 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:30 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:25 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:13 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 07:04 DocSnyder wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:58 mkfk1 wrote:
On August 04 2010 06:44 DocSnyder wrote:
[quote]


Thats not true,im actually on a salary,oh and Blizzards is trying to assume control of the world and make people like sc2s plot,so we can band and fight the hybrids together.....


Blizzard is indeed trying to exert control. Everything from e-sports, to b-net 2.0 regulation, to map publishing, to selling 3 games because "there are too much story to fit into one", and now we have WOL where more than half of the missions are fucking fillers.


And yes, we will all fight the hybrid on the 3rd or even 4th expansions to protect the world tree...I mean the K- sector. Who knows, maybe the UED will sent a 2nd fleet with fillers to collect minerals and artifacts for a 5th expansion.

Blizzard if you are reading this, I want half my money back, because you sold me half a game.


Yeah and i want my youth back,oh and cookies.....

U kidding me with this,now people are making demands and threats at Blizz,LOL

Jesus frigging christ,they didnt force you to buy the game...cant stop lathing................. . . . . .


No, but they make a bad single player, and over hyped it with false advertisement such as their panel at blizzcon about "so much story that it cant fit into one game". What a load of bull crap.

I will definitely pirate their expansion next time before making a decision buying. At least I am a smart consumer, unlike you who happen to be a brainless blizzard fan boy.




Again getting personal,how old are you people 12.......,,,damn its my way or the high way,,,oh and pirating makes you a smart consumer.

Damn ive pirated plenty of things in my day,but ive never thought i was a smart consumer.Tisk,tisk,tisk kids these days have no manners



Looking at this thread, people will most likely consider you as the stupid kid in here. Only you who try to yell at other people for not agreeing with you.

As it has been shown in many single player reviews on TL, most of the people hate the single player story aspect. And on the Internet, there will always be kids like you who try to argue his way to try to spin the reality.

Even if you want to defend the single player, you should at least make some effort. Your arguments were weak as hell.



Oh please i give up,just dont care why you think and i dont want to convince anyone of anything....If youre insisting you got cheated by Blizz go cry to someone who cares,and i did make effort...

If you insist they were week,prove me wrong...instead of crying for your 60 bucks.....




Like wise, people in here dont care about your yelling and attempt to convince people that the single player story was great. The majority thinks it sucks, and I dont blame them.

And I pre order my for only 24.99 pounds. With today exchange rate, is about 35-40 dollars. I am happy with that actually. But that still doesnt cover the bad single player story line.

Well, time to hit b net for some 1v1 and UMS instead of talking to some german kid who will lick blizzard balls.


My god ,If had you here id beat the crap out of you...,so me having a different opinion means you got to insult me,i think the storys good,you - its god awful,doesnt give you the right to insult me,i didnt try to convince anyone of anything nor do i care,i just wanted to discuss......and i didnt insult people for not agreeing,the only one who acts like a stupid kid is you,trashing me with every......what makes you think you know anything about anything u brainless dushe...


Now now boy, dont get violent. The last time German try to fight, you guys ended up losing and separated into 2 countries for 50 years.

Go and vent out your anger at the single player and play it 500 more times, since you love it so much.


Oh man,u just love pushing my buttons dont you?

What happened to battle.net,why do you keep coming back,go and play the game,you hate so much.....oh just for arguments same insulting my country....Epic Fail...

FYI Im not german,i just live there.....so FU
Damn i cant max this game:(
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
August 03 2010 23:42 GMT
#69
--- Nuked ---
elderbre
Profile Joined July 2010
Spain13 Posts
August 03 2010 23:51 GMT
#70
Let's see.. 3 campaigns, 10 missions each, where stuff happens in each of them, but only one game,

OR

1 Campaign with 30 missions, 10 missions that matter, 3 games and more minerals?

... Easy to see it's the same kind of decisions as many other things within this game.
Oliwoli
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom69 Posts
August 04 2010 00:45 GMT
#71
With regards to the article that was posted earlier (http://www.gameplaymonthly.com/reviewed-starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-singleplayer-only/), I think we can agree to disregard any body of writing that uses the phrase "such a penultimate game"- what's that even supposed to mean?

The writer goes on to claim that " In game chat, too, is gone. Want to talk to your friend? You’ll have to buy a mic". That's just straight up wrong, maybe he misread something about chat rooms?

I sense an agenda somewhere there...
Bronyaur
Profile Joined May 2010
United States20 Posts
August 04 2010 01:46 GMT
#72
On August 04 2010 05:17 alsowikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:07 Bronyaur wrote:

Actually I really disagree with this. Why was it her or him? He blocked Tychus's shot, surely he didn't have to shoot back? After all the trouble he goes through to help random people, he just shoots his old friend straight up? Couldn't he have disarmed him instead? He'll give the Queen of Blades a second chance but not Tychus? I thought that was ridiculous. I didn't even like Tychus that much, but I couldn't believe that happened.


(my view)Tychus let Jim see the laser, so he probably wanted Jim to kill him. If he had died by the suit then it would have been very painfull(organs being crushed or shut down), but by letting Jim see what he had to do he was able to avoid a terrible death while letting Jim save Kerrigan. The Mobias foundation had the kill button so he had to help them(and the artifact worked pretty well)


That's an interesting view. I'll have to watch it again with that in mind, maybe I'll feel better about the ending.
Bidouleroux
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada24 Posts
August 04 2010 05:16 GMT
#73
On August 04 2010 04:07 Atticus.axl wrote:
I agree with the OP. VA's were fine imo but the dialogue was horrible. (IE, Every spoken word from Kerrigan.) Side note on Kerrigan, I am sure am glad that she took the time to evolve high heels. Yep.


Kerrigan with hoof-like high heels shows the Overmind really knew his humans well. High heels equals more seductive behind/legs/gait. Sexual selection FTW. And you know the Overmind is all bout artificial evolution (nothing to do with algorithms).
Jaedong
Gaius Baltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
August 04 2010 06:15 GMT
#74
On August 04 2010 09:45 Oliwoli wrote:
With regards to the article that was posted earlier (http://www.gameplaymonthly.com/reviewed-starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-singleplayer-only/), I think we can agree to disregard any body of writing that uses the phrase "such a penultimate game"- what's that even supposed to mean?

My guess is he's saying the ending is riddled with cliffhangers, barely finishing any important parts of the story.
Insanecorn
Profile Joined August 2010
11 Posts
August 04 2010 06:47 GMT
#75
On August 04 2010 07:09 Stratos_speAr wrote:
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On August 04 2010 06:52 Half wrote:
it's that every single facet of the story was absolutely pathetic and the writers of this shit should've been fired. There wasn't one even remotely deep character throughout the entire thing and the story reeks of cliches and rip-offs from their own games, not to mention basically throwing everything from BW straight out the window.


Really video game writers tend to work pretty differently then say, script writers for TV shows or Hollywood. Their going to be working heavily with the cinematic and level design teams, and chances are the story was constructed in a pretty incoherent and disjointed order to begin with. Saying "the writing sucks fire the writers" is not necessarily fair, generally the issues with WoL could have happened not just from the writing department. Generally from my (admittedly small) pool of knowledge and experience all kinds of dumb stuff can happen. Cinematics can be made before writers even know what they're for, etc.

Directors are going to have a solid script their going to follow 99.9% of the time. Video games have that maybe .1% of the time.

If a TVs shows writing is horrible, firing the writers may be appropriate. 90% of the time its their fault. With video games, its more like 40%.


Yes video games work differently but when the writing is this terrible, someone deserves to get smacked for it. I mean really. This has got to be one of the worst story lines to come out of a video game in the past decade.

You REALLY need to play more games. Go play Global Agenda...let me know how the 'storyline' is as well as MANY other games...if anything the last decade has had some of the worst storylines around or lacked any.


I personally liked the campaign. Comparing it to its equivalent of SC Vanilla terran campaign it easily beats it. It develops the characters, shows how they act and puts in twists here and there. and makes things fairly obvious as well.

Example:
Tychus - From the get go this guy is fishy because if you think of who is voicing the scene where he is 'freed', it starts off fishy(Mengsk...hmmm...). Then as it was said he shows up out of nowhere with this lame story of busting out of a prison ship during transfer. Then when you get the nice suit dialogue he dodges and avoids the question of who put the suit on him and why he can't get it off. Then you have him making the odd snide, and obviously bitter, comments about going to jail and Jim being free. Then you have him exclaim after engine of destruction(i think) that he got a taste of freedom and he doesn't want to let it go(foreshadowing anyone?). Then you find out that matt scanned his suit as matt still didn't feel comfortable with him and you find out that at the input of 1 code Tychus would be dead. Then you have the cantina brawl that started with some worried soldiers/crew of Jim's about their going to Char and a drunk Tychus stands up and declares that Jim is a coward and when things get hairy he will abandon them(more bitterness to taking the fall in the past) and then they get into a fight and you know how that goes. Then you have the end where Mengsk tells him he will be free if he kills Kerrigan and Tychus gives Jim a choice and then says in seemingly uncaring way 'that's too bad'(almost as if he wanted it this way) and yeah.

A fairly fleshed out character there, they explain the relation of Tychus to Jim without Jim doing some 'lonely monologue' or such and explain(though not obviously for obvious reason) why he did what he did. Nevermind you have the warnings from Tosh(a psychic remember) and general unease but due to how Jim is with trust and such he let's it pass with Tychus(and possibly as he feels guilty for the past).


The story is deeper than it may appear...they flesh out the characters but as its not a novel they must do so in a different manner...action, dialogue, other characters, etc. They also set up the sequal nicely as well as hybrid stuff...so it's known the dominion is involved and so is mengsk(he gave the kill order after all) but how well known it is or such is questionable due to the 'extermination' order on the hybrid research team or if the dominion will be SC2's UED and merely a tool for duran/the dark voice or what their exact role is. Same with kerrigan and that in itself brings to question the involvement of the dominion...as in zeratul's future the terran are dead as is kerrigan due to them(he never said exactly whom killed her or how she died or if its kerrigan the ghost or the queen of blades whom will save them). For a part 1/3 it set up the appropriate cliff hangers, established the characters, motives and brought to question the parties...they may not have written a shakespearean play or some epic story but they did a very good job with what they could do without closing off too much, revealing too much or going off on tangents(yes the side missions could be called this but they are still useful in establishing character and such).


Then again that's just my view. I liked SC2 more than the original SC vanilla terran campign because it has more depth, and makes me want to know more where as the vanilla campaign didn't make me want the next part right away or want to know where it leads as it didn't give a lot to go off of.
Bromar
Profile Joined June 2010
12 Posts
August 04 2010 07:04 GMT
#76
I stopped reading when you said SC told its story well. Aside from the fact that its story is unimaginative garbage, I lost all respect for the campaign when, with a huge force in the zerg base, Tassadar flips shit and decides he has to kill himself while channelling the energy of his new dark templar friends along with his own through the hull of a galactic spaceship and subsequently steer it on a crash course with the already destroyed overmind.

great fucking storytelling blizz
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