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If you want to do a lift off strategy then choose the new 8 player lava one where the island has 2 expansions.
Personally I just went P vs. 4xP very hard on extinction. I cannon rushed two of them. Make sure to be efficient. I think I built 3 cannons total, the first one was in range of the nexus and disabled the first computer and the second two took out a second computer in similar fashion. Then I rushed a warp prism and expanded on the island behind me. When I still had my cyber core up (the remaining two computers were on there way to my main after dealing with the cannons), I made sure to build a stargate at the island. I then slowly made void rays. From here on out it's all based on how well you can keep the computers busy with your void rays. Do hit and run on any building or probe and they will try to chase down your rays.
If they're busy enough you can pretty much do anything you want. The main problem is that the computers take 4 or 5 bases and are so rich they can remake entire expansions even if you chain kill them. This could be a blessing since there's never a shortage of targets on the map to hit and harass.
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Here ( [url blocked] ) is my take on the 1v4 very hard as cannon rushing protoss vs. 4 very hard protoss.
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protoss tower rush 4 terran on megaton; just place your initial pylon & forge where they don't scv rush you.. then just build out-- your first few cannons won't really be in range of anything, but will pick off random shit.
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wtf, I did this and the 1v7 insane AI shit and I got achievements for neither what the hell.
Is it cause I chose single player vs AI rather than multiplayer custom game or why am I just wasting my fuckin time here?
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all you have to do is cannon rush. the computers will all rush to defend their allies and die to mass cannons. then mass expand and build mass carriers.
easy wins
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On August 05 2010 15:10 7mk wrote:
wtf, I did this and the 1v7 insane AI shit and I got achievements for neither what the hell.
Is it cause I chose single player vs AI rather than multiplayer custom game or why am I just wasting my fuckin time here?
you have to do it in a multiplayer custom game or it wont count. can't do it in single player vs ai.
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Very easy as Protoss on Extinction against 4 zergs. Do a quick tech to warp prisms while powering probes; the prism will come out just in time for their first roach push. Have all probes hotkeyed and run them away while the prism ferries 8 at a time to the island, where you should immediately drop a nexus and pylons, then take one probe to the other island at the opposite end of the map. Get a forge up ASAP and cannon up the 2nd island, throwing down a few at the first as well. By the time they are trying to do drops, you should have a solid mass of cannons and a few void rays on the way (get 5 stargates on the island by their base). From there, just mass and upgrade void rays and take a third at one of the rock-blocked islands. 200 food of VRs and a mommaship will be able to faceroll their bases, then it's just cleanup.
I don't recommend trying this on the Lava map, as there's much more space to defend, and you don't have the advantage of being able to mass your army a stone-throw from their bases.
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are you serious, 3 straight posts from the OP in a row? This is like farming you posts.
What map are you doing it on?
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there was just a patch talking about something with achievements maybe its fixed
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If you do the 1v4 Very Hard one, will you get all the 1v2, 1v3, 1v4 for Normal, Hard and Very Hard as well, or do you have to do all of them seperately?
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On August 06 2010 10:00 Keldrath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 15:10 7mk wrote:
wtf, I did this and the 1v7 insane AI shit and I got achievements for neither what the hell.
Is it cause I chose single player vs AI rather than multiplayer custom game or why am I just wasting my fuckin time here? you have to do it in a multiplayer custom game or it wont count. can't do it in single player vs ai.
ugh I wish I had known that T_T
thx tho! now I got something to do again if I dont wanna ladder/no friends are online
On August 06 2010 13:23 anilusion wrote:
If you do the 1v4 Very Hard one, will you get all the 1v2, 1v3, 1v4 for Normal, Hard and Very Hard as well, or do you have to do all of them seperately?
youll get 1v4 for lower difficulties, not for 1v2 or 1v3 though
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Cannon rush worked for me on Megaton  .
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I've tried countless times now, i can't pull it off !
Please tell me what am i doing wrong. Should i be more aggressive ?
Replay : [url blocked]
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I keep getting rolled by MM balls.
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1v4 on extinction, protoss vs 4 terrans is how I did it. (Cannon rush; you'll have to learn where u can place ur initial stuff without having their scvs aggro. Then quickly expand ur cannons closer to their mineral lines. You can aggro their marines and scvs by using right clicks with ur probe and other tricks to make them run into your cannons. Took like 5 tries but nothing particularly difficult after u learn how they behave.
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On August 08 2010 00:42 Mikami_ wrote:
I've tried countless times now, i can't pull it off !
Please tell me what am i doing wrong. Should i be more aggressive ?
Replay : [url blocked]
haha thats very cute of you to say "gg" at the end.
I dont get why you completele stop any probe production after the 9th probe.
I think your main mistake was that you left the bottom two terrans completely unharmed for way too long. They could just mass up marine marauder without you shooting anything with your cannons.
Also position your cannons in such a way that the MMs cant just take out one cannon without any of the other cannons shooting them. should have placed the bottom ones in a more diagonal way. Top was taken care of btw. if you manage to harass the bottom the same way, youll win, just try it a few times more, I lost the first time too.
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@7mk Thank you ! My main mistakes were indeed cutting probes after pylon and not attacking the other AI soon enough...
here's the replay of my success for anyone else who's having trouble
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Yup, it's all about that first pylon. Whichever color is rushing you, place it just a shade farther away from their base. I only put my pylon far enough inside the top of the ramp for the forge and worked out from there, trying to engage as many armies as possible. Finally got it after about 10-12 tries.
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how do you get the probes/drones/scvs not to attack you? for some reason mine agro
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On August 14 2010 12:18 Darkalbino wrote:
how do you get the probes/drones/scvs not to attack you? for some reason mine agro
Yea, you can't really cannon rush against 4 terran/protoss AI anymore. I think blizzard may've tweaked how the AI reacts to it. The only AI I was able to cannon rush was Zerg, and since you can't build on creep, that's a little trixy.
I ended up forcing the AI to focus all their attention on a large cluster of cannons (built in the center of their shared base on megaton) while I built up some immortals to deal with mass roach and buildings that my cannons couldn't reach. I had to tell my cannons to focus fire each individual roach during their first couple waves, but after I crippled a couple of them by taking out tech structures the rest went pretty well.
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