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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 18 2009 06:11 GMT
#1541
Looks good Energies! Those are really good lifts man, keep it up. Are those maximums, or per rep, and if so, how man reps and sets I find it really intersting to see what guys in my weight class do, just to see if I can improve some aspect of my own routine.

Looking forward to seeing a photo - gives me something to aim for, now that we are the same weight

I will post my own current stuff tomorrow.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
October 18 2009 06:30 GMT
#1542
And a year or two ago you were ~220 pounds.
Sick results man. Props!
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 06:44:48
October 18 2009 06:37 GMT
#1543
Those numbers are usually my last set as I pyramid up. I typically go 3 sets for upper body, 4 sets + 1 light warm up for lower body. Rep range is 8-10. Last set for each exercise is typically 6-8. Sometimes as low as 2-4 when I am going for a new weight.

For exercises like bicep and triceps I do drop sets and super sets. For example tricep pushdown or extensions I'll start at the heaviest weight I can do, go for as many reps as I can, then drop the weight by 10-15% go for as many reps as I can do, drop the weight a further 10-15%. And keep doing this until I literally run out of weights. Edit: without rest

Bicep, I might use the ez bar and do super 7s drop the bar grab two 10-12.5kg weights and do hammer curls until failure. Edit: without rest
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
October 18 2009 06:38 GMT
#1544
On October 18 2009 15:30 Amnesia wrote:
And a year or two ago you were ~220 pounds.
Sick results man. Props!


I have a fan. <3
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 10:36:17
October 18 2009 09:47 GMT
#1545
crap! i feel really unhealthy right now. i've eaten so much unhealthy food in the past 24 hours (instant noodles, tons of cookies, etc)... i've got a month before my swim season starts and i have to lose my gut by then. sigh...

I found a site with really good articles btw...

http://www.exrx.net/index.html

it's not a good looking site but it has really good info and it also cites sources and facts. the forum looks pretty good too so I might sign up later.

EDIT: I found this on their forum

http://exrx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3817

it's a bunch of routines for beginners. looks pretty useful.

oh and has anybody here heard of the tabata protocol?
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 11:20:36
October 18 2009 11:20 GMT
#1546
tabata is an interval training cycle where you go as hard as you can in a certain exercise for a period of time of 20 secs over a span of 4 min where rest time is only 10 secs. the great thing about it is you can use just about any exercise for the 20 sec duration like pushups, jumping jacks, situps, cycling, burpees etc.

so for a routine i would think performing maybe at least 3 different exercises, (preferably exercises that use a lot of different muscles) would be a decent start. although from all the sources i've read they suggest at least 4 different types of exercises.

i've actually never tried it but i plan on trying it out one day, sometime in the not so distant future.

"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 11:22:14
October 18 2009 11:21 GMT
#1547
On October 17 2009 21:53 madnessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2009 20:32 Nazarene wrote:
I'm in very good shape now. Resting pulse at 40 bpm. Need to lose around 1 kilogram and then I'll be where I need to be at in regards to boxing (69 kg).
Will have my first fight this season in around in month :-)!


Nice.. boxing is really hardcore. what weight class is 69kg?

Welterweight, and yeah, training is very tough but also very good
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
October 18 2009 11:22 GMT
#1548
On October 17 2009 21:54 jfazz wrote:
light weight.

You've been influenced too much by UFC I suspect ?
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
October 18 2009 14:59 GMT
#1549
On October 18 2009 13:54 Energies wrote:
there is definite separation in my calves (albeit, hiding under hair ^_^)


well we know what to do about that!
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 15:46:57
October 18 2009 15:46 GMT
#1550
madnessman:
You know exrx.net is referenced in the OP, right?

Nice work Energies. I personally don't like the isolations all that much but as long as you're doing compounds and progressing I'm happy haha.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 19:10:46
October 18 2009 19:05 GMT
#1551
why is it not recommended to use a military press machine (or any machine)? i can give the freeweight a try but i dont really wanna end up dropping it on my head (again) + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU8vcEGL5tU


would this be an acceptable daily diet:
+ Show Spoiler +

2 litres milk (900 kcal), 68g protein
chips (500??? kcal)
sandwich containing a) cheese b) ham/beef shit c) chicken d) egg e) something else cheap, minus crusts .... (300kcal???)
another sandwich
yet another sandwich

= this still only comes to 2300kcal....

i am seriously stuck in trying to make up 3000++ kcal on a student budget. i suppose i could resort to rice+sauce for evening meals.... the only thing i've been able to maintain is 2 litres milk/day (which is apparently nowhere near enough protein anyway)



i have been sticking 12 mins on exercise bike and 12 mins on treadmill at the start of every session. this is for heart exercise, and to stimulate nervous system for muscle growth/blah blah.
is this right (note i am purely for muscle mass gain)?

thanks


stats:
188cm
75kg
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-18 21:40:54
October 18 2009 21:40 GMT
#1552
@bio

machines only target specific muscles, while free weights use others as stabilizers so your getting a better workout by using them. free weights are generally better and produce better results.

however, I always add machines to my workouts because they are still a solid way to work out. and I don't have a spotter, so setting myself up with 60lb dumb bells for chest presses is a real pain in the ass and not good for my back (I weight 115 lb 0_o).
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
October 18 2009 22:18 GMT
#1553
On October 19 2009 04:05 biomedical wrote:
why is it not recommended to use a military press machine (or any machine)? i can give the freeweight a try but i dont really wanna end up dropping it on my head (again) + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU8vcEGL5tU


would this be an acceptable daily diet:
+ Show Spoiler +

2 litres milk (900 kcal), 68g protein
chips (500??? kcal)
sandwich containing a) cheese b) ham/beef shit c) chicken d) egg e) something else cheap, minus crusts .... (300kcal???)
another sandwich
yet another sandwich

= this still only comes to 2300kcal....

i am seriously stuck in trying to make up 3000++ kcal on a student budget. i suppose i could resort to rice+sauce for evening meals.... the only thing i've been able to maintain is 2 litres milk/day (which is apparently nowhere near enough protein anyway)



i have been sticking 12 mins on exercise bike and 12 mins on treadmill at the start of every session. this is for heart exercise, and to stimulate nervous system for muscle growth/blah blah.
is this right (note i am purely for muscle mass gain)?

thanks


stats:
188cm
75kg

Buy kidney beans in huge bags. Bread and chips are terrible. Rice isn't so hot either.

Whey protein is also way cheaper than most people think. A 4.4 pound container is about 30 bucks from costco, and contains about 1750 grams of protein.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 18 2009 22:26 GMT
#1554
I was sort of going off martial arts weight classes in general They do move around a lot.

Pretty mixed week as far as my results go. I had a terrible bout of food poisoning mid week, so I missed some cardio and abs work, but I did make it to the gym (whoo for dedication).

WEEKLY UPDATE
Weight: 68kg (lost 2kg)
Chest: 98cm (no change)
Waist: 70cm (gained 1cm)
Thighs: 50cm (gained 1cm)
Bicep: 30cm (gained 1cm)

Im pretty sure I dropped the weight just because I couldnt really eat for 2 days. The cm on my stomach will be from missing cardi/abs sessions. Not good. Happy with the other gains, hopefully I can maintain the weights in the gym over the next few weeks - I want to increase to 65kg x 6 x 4 for the bench press as soon as possible. I wouldn't mind going up on my deadlifts either!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 19 2009 11:40 GMT
#1555
I found the missing piece in my diet and it's fruit. I've doubled how much fruit I eat everyday and I did that easily since this time a year the orange fruits are very delicious.

I also changed how I do the bench press accordingly to tips I got here and I no longer waste strength on gradually increasing, instead I started with 55kg and to my excitement I could do that weight for two sets and it felt great. Third set failed completely and I had to drop down to 35 before I could do a proper set.


NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 19 2009 12:03 GMT
#1556
I've started more intense workouts on the track (I've only been doing long slow running before) and it seems like the intense workouts give me a hunger that's difficult to satisfy while remaining on a diet. I've still got a bit of fat of fat I need to burn, maybe 5 pounds, but I've got no idea how many calories I'm burning now. On my hard days, I'm running 1-2 miles less than I would if I were going long and slow (7-8 when slow, 5-7 now), but 2-3 of the miles are very intense. It makes me want to eat an extra 500-700 calories.

I don't want to have a bad recovery by undereating but I need to finish off these last pounds.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 13:38:46
October 19 2009 13:37 GMT
#1557
On October 19 2009 00:46 eshlow wrote:
madnessman:
You know exrx.net is referenced in the OP, right?

Nice work Energies. I personally don't like the isolations all that much but as long as you're doing compounds and progressing I'm happy haha.


oh weird... it wasn't bookmarked (the rest of the links in the OP are). i'm in love with that site. it's so good.

my cross country season is over but i tried doing the tabata protocol (basically interval training) on the elliptical today. probably the hardest 4 minute workout i've ever done.

it's basically...
5 minutes warmup

20 seconds sprint
10 seconds recovery
x8

i was already dying after like 4 reps.

EDIT: nony. what are your events?
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
October 19 2009 13:55 GMT
#1558
On October 19 2009 22:37 madnessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 00:46 eshlow wrote:
madnessman:
You know exrx.net is referenced in the OP, right?

Nice work Energies. I personally don't like the isolations all that much but as long as you're doing compounds and progressing I'm happy haha.


oh weird... it wasn't bookmarked (the rest of the links in the OP are). i'm in love with that site. it's so good.

my cross country season is over but i tried doing the tabata protocol (basically interval training) on the elliptical today. probably the hardest 4 minute workout i've ever done.

it's basically...
5 minutes warmup

20 seconds sprint
10 seconds recovery
x8

i was already dying after like 4 reps.

EDIT: nony. what are your events?

you managed all 8 sets?? @_@
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 14:46:11
October 19 2009 14:13 GMT
#1559
Tabata is seriously intense. I do the same on the stationary upright bike.

5 Minute warm up, crank up the resistance and sprint as fast as I can for 20 sec, rest for 10. By the time I get to the last set, as fast as I can possibly go isn't even a sprint anymore so I have to drop the resistance a tad to increase speed.

I always get off the bike drenched in sweat, if I am wearing a light coloured shirt it pretty looks like I just went for a swim. Usually get the girls who are walking on the treadmill reading a book staring at me in shock as I walk past.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
October 19 2009 14:19 GMT
#1560
yeah i finished all 8 sets but my "sprint" for the last few sets were like... 1/2 the speed of my original sets. I was barely moving. and yeah i don't think i've ever been so drenched in sweat after like 10 minutes in the gym. i'm going to try to do it every other day on either the elliptical or cycling machine.

random fact: the elliptical and cycling machines in my apartment gym are incredibly high tech. like touch screens, 2 headphone jacks, tv tuners, little touch pad buttons to adjust the resistance on the bars where your hands go high tech. it's mind blowing.
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