EPTTL Fitness Initiative (Weight Loss/Gain) - Page 31
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On May 25 2009 00:55 Foucault wrote: Nice thread. I work alot around 5 times a week. I mix weightlifting with running and run mainly 5k/10k but I've also ran 15 km. An interesting fact about running or any sort of relatively exhausting cardio is that it actually burns fat from your stomach region, both visceral and subcutane fat; ie both fat "inside" your stomach and fat on the actual stomach. This is a proven fact and I got research to prove it. What this means is that if you want a more defined stomach I urge you to mix in some cardio like running in between your weightlifting sessions. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16446745?dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10557024?dopt=AbstractPlus Also: "In conclusion, blood flow and lipolysis are generally higher in SCAT adjacent to contracting than adjacent to resting muscle irrespective of exercise intensity. Thus, specific exercises can induce "spot lipolysis" in adipose tissue." Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2006 Sep 19; Are blood flow and lipolysis in subcutaneous adipose tissue influenced by contractions in adjacent muscles in humans? In short this means that if you besides just lifting weights and dieting, also add in some sessions of cardio, your fat loss will be greater in the stomach area than if you would just diet and lift weights. Man did those articles use some big words! They have just used waist circumfurance as a unit of measurement. Nowhere in those articles does it state that spot reduction is possible. Which is not. It's basically saying. Diet + Exercise > Diet. Which I agree. But duh! | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Diet only = even fat loss over the entire body depending on genetic composition etc It's not spot reduction per se, but it's a fact. And it's the cardio that makes it happen. Btw dude, those articles are from PubMed which is like the worlds most respected online database of scientific research. | ||
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antiq
Slovakia191 Posts
What I did manage is to tone the muscles a bit, I now have some kind of a four-to sixpack and overall wiry look due to regular bodyweight exercises (pullpus/L-pullups, dips, pushups, handstand pushups) and occasional deadlifts and thrusters (low weight, could manage ~15 repetitions). I hereby set my next deadline for august the 1st with a goal of gaining 10 pounds (target weight 60kg+) - preferably in muscle mass. To do this, I will try to eat more often and take my stomach medication regularly so I can handle the food more efficiently and continue with my exercise routine, maybe adding some more weight to the barbell. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20163 Posts
 Im gonna try to start running every day or every other day while going to the gym ~3-4 times a week. I'm also starting a strength and agility program at a sports complex to bring down my 40 time, make better cuts, increase endurance and explosive power, etc. Currently i'm 6'0, ~200 pounds, 5.35 40 (electric, but still wtf i thought i would do much better, i ran a 4.77 stopwatch 40 last fall), i can jump to about 10 foot 4 inches (hopefully after this i'll be able to dunk). It's about an 8 week program so we'll see how i am by the end of the summer | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On May 25 2009 02:31 antiq wrote: I'd like to publicly announce, that even though my deadline was due 3 weeks ago, I didn't manage to gain more than ~1pound. To add insult to injury, the camera which I took the "before" pictures with got stolen a month ago :-\ What I did manage is to tone the muscles a bit, I now have some kind of a four-to sixpack and overall wiry look due to regular bodyweight exercises (pullpus/L-pullups, dips, pushups, handstand pushups) and occasional deadlifts and thrusters (low weight, could manage ~15 repetitions). I hereby set my next deadline for august the 1st with a goal of gaining 10 pounds (target weight 60kg+) - preferably in muscle mass. To do this, I will try to eat more often and take my stomach medication regularly so I can handle the food more efficiently and continue with my exercise routine, maybe adding some more weight to the barbell. rofl =[ | ||
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sexsexpussyhair
Canada133 Posts
On May 25 2009 02:25 Foucault wrote: Diet + cardio = more fat burned from the abdomen region. Diet only = even fat loss over the entire body depending on genetic composition etc It's not spot reduction per se, but it's a fact. And it's the cardio that makes it happen. Btw dude, those articles are from PubMed which is like the worlds most respected online database of scientific research. diet can help you lose "weight" not exactly fat, you lose both fat and muscle just by staying on good diet. dieting is much slower, it is typically a lazy man's choice. ps, eat more protein, lean meat at same time, dieting does not mean eating less, you can eat more and more often, every 3 hours and still lose weight and build muscle. research has shown consuming protein helps fat loss. | ||
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xJacky
China375 Posts
On February 07 2009 12:29 xJacky wrote: Age:14 Height:6'2 Starting Weight: 164 Goal Weight:180 Start Date:Dec 31, 2008 End Date: March 9, 09 ![[image loading]](http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q32/xxuruhaxx/Topless4.jpg) im 170 now. but its been way more than march. went from benching 135-205 :3 still working on the abs though. -_-x | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On May 25 2009 03:53 sexsexpussyhair wrote: diet can help you lose "weight" not exactly fat, you lose both fat and muscle just by staying on good diet. dieting is much slower, it is typically a lazy man's choice. ps, eat more protein, lean meat at same time, dieting does not mean eating less, you can eat more and more often, every 3 hours and still lose weight and build muscle. research has shown consuming protein helps fat loss. Yeah, when adding cardio you loose more fat from the abdominal region than when you're just dieting without cardio. Read my second last post again with links. I know it sounds weird and we're all used to believe it's not so, but it is so. I should also add that I'm no newbie when it comes to exercise and I know quite alot about it + I always read up on new scientific efforts regarding exercise. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On May 25 2009 02:25 Foucault wrote: Diet + cardio = more fat burned from the abdomen region. Diet only = even fat loss over the entire body depending on genetic composition etc It's not spot reduction per se, but it's a fact. And it's the cardio that makes it happen. Btw dude, those articles are from PubMed which is like the worlds most respected online database of scientific research. The article is quite vague and gives no end result stats, for all we know it could have been a fluctuation of %0.00001 marked as proof. It sounds quite interesting none the less, I have been reading on fitness/nutrition and weight loss for about a year now, this is the first time I have heard of something like this. Do you have any additional information on it? | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
This is the only study you'll need. The higher the intensity the exercise, the better it is for improving body composition. I describe the relationship between diet and exercise in this post if any of you are interested. It goes over common scenarios and explains physiologically when and why diet and/or exercise will affect the body: http://eshlow.blogspot.com/2009/05/relationship-between-diet-and-exercise.html | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
I've never done any in my entire life but everyone who is serious about working out probably have them included in their workouts so they are probably pretty good I don't really care much for leg muscle (i run enough i think) but do you think it improves overall body composition? Maybe posture, etc? my lower back hurts when I do deadlifts  im not really sure how to do them http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/DBStrBackStrLegDeadlift.html or  ? edit: what about this? does it work? http://www.expertvillage.com/video/27018_fitness-training-dumbell.htm how come there are so many ways to do these fucking deadlifts? ;< | ||
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
Day 2 chest and back/chest and arm doesnt matter day 3 abs and shoulders/tri's again that's my routine for now and i see improvement already after 4 months | ||
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On May 28 2009 08:57 zizou21 wrote: Yo wat do you guys (preferably those who kno wat theyre talking about :0) think about Deadlifts and Squats? I've never done any in my entire life but everyone who is serious about working out probably have them included in their workouts so they are probably pretty good I don't really care much for leg muscle (i run enough i think) but do you think it improves overall body composition? Maybe posture, etc? my lower back hurts when I do deadlifts im not really sure how to do them http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Hamstrings/DBStrBackStrLegDeadlift.html or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8YJ_tfLPJQ ? edit: what about this? does it work? http://www.expertvillage.com/video/27018_fitness-training-dumbell.htm how come there are so many ways to do these fucking deadlifts? ;< The deadlifts by that lady in the youtube video were shit. And in fact, I really don't see the point of dumbell deadlifts, unless you always keep them above the ground. Use a bar and plates. That'll let you pick the bar up when it's well above the ground. | ||
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sexsexpussyhair
Canada133 Posts
On May 25 2009 04:36 Foucault wrote: Yeah, when adding cardio you loose more fat from the abdominal region than when you're just dieting without cardio. Read my second last post again with links. I know it sounds weird and we're all used to believe it's not so, but it is so. I should also add that I'm no newbie when it comes to exercise and I know quite alot about it + I always read up on new scientific efforts regarding exercise. ofcourse u lose more fat around the waist area, guess what fat builds up first around the waist and has the most fat. when u do cardio+ diet, obviously, the most fat loss will come from the abdominal area, the rest of the body wont lose fat at the same rate, otherwise there will be only be a layer of skin on the rest of the body by the time you shrink down ur belly. the article itself its completely common sense, i dont even know y they bothered to research that. its clear those ppl who did the research has no knowledge and experience in exercise. | ||
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unsoundlogic
United States391 Posts
I've gained like 5 lbs to 145. I didn't really take it seriously, which obviously put a damper on my plans. Time to try again! | ||
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
On May 28 2009 09:19 AoN.DimSum wrote: yeah i hate how 90% of people in gym dont squat/ do it poorly haha when I teach a friend I teach them to box squat off a 2 inch below parallel box so they're forced to pick up good habits :D | ||
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