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On December 29 2023 14:42 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2023 23:18 RKC wrote:
Not sure what's the fuss about the penalty that Everton conceded. If a defending player throw himself to the ground in the penalty box to block a goal-bound shot, there's always a risk of handling the ball and conceding a penalty. That's just football. Hard luck, but the defending team only has itself to blame for allowing the attackers to get into such a dangerous position in the box. Same goes for wicked deflections. Last ditch tackles to block shots is not great defending. As a defensive player myself, I have no sympathy when defenders botch up badly.
Still, definitely agree that referees should be consistent in penalty calls. I don't particularly mind that the handball is called if viewed from the letter of the rules. BUT MAKE IT CONSISTENT. There were like 5 other instances this season of the exact same action, and half are called, half aren't. Then one team who sees the call benefit them multiple times (City) and it's obvious why people are upset and it looks like favoritism/corruption. In other news, WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!!!!! Time to wait for City to win out from here... Losing Salah is gonna be rough, but getting Jota back was so crucial. Arsenal away and City at home are now at minimum, must draws. Cannot afford to lose to them. I have confidence in the rest of the matches.
The non-penalty call for Odergaard's handball is a travesty. Liverpool is right to feel aggrieved. But Spurs has been getting a lot of lucky calls this season. Don't think it's favouritism. Just refereering incompetence and poorly formulated rules.
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On December 29 2023 15:09 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2023 14:42 FlaShFTW wrote:On December 28 2023 23:18 RKC wrote:
Not sure what's the fuss about the penalty that Everton conceded. If a defending player throw himself to the ground in the penalty box to block a goal-bound shot, there's always a risk of handling the ball and conceding a penalty. That's just football. Hard luck, but the defending team only has itself to blame for allowing the attackers to get into such a dangerous position in the box. Same goes for wicked deflections. Last ditch tackles to block shots is not great defending. As a defensive player myself, I have no sympathy when defenders botch up badly.
Still, definitely agree that referees should be consistent in penalty calls. I don't particularly mind that the handball is called if viewed from the letter of the rules. BUT MAKE IT CONSISTENT. There were like 5 other instances this season of the exact same action, and half are called, half aren't. Then one team who sees the call benefit them multiple times (City) and it's obvious why people are upset and it looks like favoritism/corruption. In other news, WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!!!!! Time to wait for City to win out from here... Losing Salah is gonna be rough, but getting Jota back was so crucial. Arsenal away and City at home are now at minimum, must draws. Cannot afford to lose to them. I have confidence in the rest of the matches. The non-penalty call for Odergaard's handball is a travesty. Liverpool is right to feel aggrieved. But Spurs has been getting a lot of lucky calls this season. Don't think it's favouritism. Just refereering incompetence and poorly formulated rules.
At the start of the season I said Spurs are favoured by refs. I was ridiculed and criticised for that. Funny how once more Spurs are gettling a lot of lucky calls "just this one season" right?  Who could have prediced that?!
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On December 03 2023 09:54 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2023 03:15 sharkie wrote:On December 03 2023 00:28 WombaT wrote:
He’s a good player but I wouldn’t go overboard He is the main reason why Arsenal have finally been playing good football again the last few games... The main reason? Hey fair play you have interesting opinions on football, I have yet to hear a single other person put him in the top 3 players at Arsenal and attribute him as the main reason they’re on a good run of form
Arsenal have been in a horrible form since Tomiyasu got injured. Ask any Arsenal fan which player we are missing the most now
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Its shit squad building if your team crumbles when one player is missing tbh. I never understood this. Injuries happen and the rest/backup players are also earning lots of money so I dont get it when such a thing counts as excuse, especially since the top teams KNOW they have way more games to play thanks to CL/EL and cups.
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On December 29 2023 20:42 gTank wrote:
Its shit squad building if your team crumbles when one player is missing tbh. I never understood this. Injuries happen and the rest/backup players are also earning lots of money so I dont get it when such a thing counts as excuse, especially since the top teams KNOW they have way more games to play thanks to CL/EL and cups.
Of course its shit squad building. Especially if you consider that Arteta could have sold Nketiah or Reese Nelson for very very good money and bought players he would actually trust and prefer
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Some nasty rumours going around about Newcastle. Specifically Joelinton. It might explain a few things.
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Much, much bigger news is that this means Alonso is not going to Real next season... :0
Where will he go to then?
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On December 30 2023 06:37 sharkie wrote:
Much, much bigger news is that this means Alonso is not going to Real next season... :0
Where will he go to then?
I hope he stays at Leverkusen, will win the league and EL. Been a while since a more likable team from germany won something. (fuck Bayern obviously)
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On December 30 2023 06:39 gTank wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2023 06:37 sharkie wrote:
Much, much bigger news is that this means Alonso is not going to Real next season... :0
Where will he go to then? I hope he stays at Leverkusen, will win the league and EL. Been a while since a more likable team from germany won something. (fuck Bayern obviously)
Obviously I would love him to stay at Leverkusen for a couple of years. But I just cant see it
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On December 29 2023 18:34 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2023 15:09 RKC wrote:On December 29 2023 14:42 FlaShFTW wrote:On December 28 2023 23:18 RKC wrote:
Not sure what's the fuss about the penalty that Everton conceded. If a defending player throw himself to the ground in the penalty box to block a goal-bound shot, there's always a risk of handling the ball and conceding a penalty. That's just football. Hard luck, but the defending team only has itself to blame for allowing the attackers to get into such a dangerous position in the box. Same goes for wicked deflections. Last ditch tackles to block shots is not great defending. As a defensive player myself, I have no sympathy when defenders botch up badly.
Still, definitely agree that referees should be consistent in penalty calls. I don't particularly mind that the handball is called if viewed from the letter of the rules. BUT MAKE IT CONSISTENT. There were like 5 other instances this season of the exact same action, and half are called, half aren't. Then one team who sees the call benefit them multiple times (City) and it's obvious why people are upset and it looks like favoritism/corruption. In other news, WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!!!!! Time to wait for City to win out from here... Losing Salah is gonna be rough, but getting Jota back was so crucial. Arsenal away and City at home are now at minimum, must draws. Cannot afford to lose to them. I have confidence in the rest of the matches. The non-penalty call for Odergaard's handball is a travesty. Liverpool is right to feel aggrieved. But Spurs has been getting a lot of lucky calls this season. Don't think it's favouritism. Just refereering incompetence and poorly formulated rules. At the start of the season I said Spurs are favoured by refs. I was ridiculed and criticised for that. Funny how once more Spurs are gettling a lot of lucky calls "just this one season" right? Who could have prediced that?!
I just doubt any team is particularly systemically favoured is all. If we actually logged every contentious decision, each totted up a total on which we think were correct/incorrect, I doubt there’d be much discrepancy between teams. And what would exist could easily be explained by simple error over intentional favouritism.
That said the inconsistency is maddening, especially on handball. It’s been a mess ever since VAR put the offence under the microscope. The rule’s intent doesn’t match the level of scrutiny, it was intended for blatant offences a human eye could see in real time, not the ball cannoning into a player from a foot away
Tomiyasu is a good player, and a miss right now sure. IIRC you claimed he was one of Arsenal’s top 3 players which is what I thought was the stretch.
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On December 30 2023 07:03 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2023 18:34 sharkie wrote:On December 29 2023 15:09 RKC wrote:On December 29 2023 14:42 FlaShFTW wrote:On December 28 2023 23:18 RKC wrote:
Not sure what's the fuss about the penalty that Everton conceded. If a defending player throw himself to the ground in the penalty box to block a goal-bound shot, there's always a risk of handling the ball and conceding a penalty. That's just football. Hard luck, but the defending team only has itself to blame for allowing the attackers to get into such a dangerous position in the box. Same goes for wicked deflections. Last ditch tackles to block shots is not great defending. As a defensive player myself, I have no sympathy when defenders botch up badly.
Still, definitely agree that referees should be consistent in penalty calls. I don't particularly mind that the handball is called if viewed from the letter of the rules. BUT MAKE IT CONSISTENT. There were like 5 other instances this season of the exact same action, and half are called, half aren't. Then one team who sees the call benefit them multiple times (City) and it's obvious why people are upset and it looks like favoritism/corruption. In other news, WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!!!!! Time to wait for City to win out from here... Losing Salah is gonna be rough, but getting Jota back was so crucial. Arsenal away and City at home are now at minimum, must draws. Cannot afford to lose to them. I have confidence in the rest of the matches. The non-penalty call for Odergaard's handball is a travesty. Liverpool is right to feel aggrieved. But Spurs has been getting a lot of lucky calls this season. Don't think it's favouritism. Just refereering incompetence and poorly formulated rules. At the start of the season I said Spurs are favoured by refs. I was ridiculed and criticised for that. Funny how once more Spurs are gettling a lot of lucky calls "just this one season" right? Who could have prediced that?! I just doubt any team is particularly systemically favoured is all. If we actually logged every contentious decision, each totted up a total on which we think were correct/incorrect, I doubt there’d be much discrepancy between teams. And what would exist could easily be explained by simple error over intentional favouritism. That said the inconsistency is maddening, especially on handball. It’s been a mess ever since VAR put the offence under the microscope. The rule’s intent doesn’t match the level of scrutiny, it was intended for blatant offences a human eye could see in real time, not the ball cannoning into a player from a foot away Tomiyasu is a good player, and a miss right now sure. IIRC you claimed he was one of Arsenal’s top 3 players which is what I thought was the stretch.
Definitely. After Saliba and Rice he is Arsenal's most important player. And I am sure the most underrated one
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Reminder these guys are going to host the World Cup in 10 years... obviously the match between Fenerbahçe SK and Galatasaray did not take place. All CR7's PR down the drain in less than 24hrs.
"Saudis tried to detain us and break our camera. They tried to put us in the police car. The security guards of Fenerbahçe came and helped us. We are in a good situation now."
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Are you mixing up countries?
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Saudi Arabia is hosting the Turkish Super Cup final. Just like many other sporting events - football, golf, boxing, etc.
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- translation for the few of us not fluent in Turkish?
- who did what wrong? what are we supposed to be outraged about?
- whats the implication for the world cup?
- how does this relate to CR7?
- why is posting random tweets with some unrelated word salad okay?
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On December 30 2023 07:19 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2023 07:03 WombaT wrote:On December 29 2023 18:34 sharkie wrote:On December 29 2023 15:09 RKC wrote:On December 29 2023 14:42 FlaShFTW wrote:On December 28 2023 23:18 RKC wrote:
Not sure what's the fuss about the penalty that Everton conceded. If a defending player throw himself to the ground in the penalty box to block a goal-bound shot, there's always a risk of handling the ball and conceding a penalty. That's just football. Hard luck, but the defending team only has itself to blame for allowing the attackers to get into such a dangerous position in the box. Same goes for wicked deflections. Last ditch tackles to block shots is not great defending. As a defensive player myself, I have no sympathy when defenders botch up badly.
Still, definitely agree that referees should be consistent in penalty calls. I don't particularly mind that the handball is called if viewed from the letter of the rules. BUT MAKE IT CONSISTENT. There were like 5 other instances this season of the exact same action, and half are called, half aren't. Then one team who sees the call benefit them multiple times (City) and it's obvious why people are upset and it looks like favoritism/corruption. In other news, WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!!!!! Time to wait for City to win out from here... Losing Salah is gonna be rough, but getting Jota back was so crucial. Arsenal away and City at home are now at minimum, must draws. Cannot afford to lose to them. I have confidence in the rest of the matches. The non-penalty call for Odergaard's handball is a travesty. Liverpool is right to feel aggrieved. But Spurs has been getting a lot of lucky calls this season. Don't think it's favouritism. Just refereering incompetence and poorly formulated rules. At the start of the season I said Spurs are favoured by refs. I was ridiculed and criticised for that. Funny how once more Spurs are gettling a lot of lucky calls "just this one season" right? Who could have prediced that?! I just doubt any team is particularly systemically favoured is all. If we actually logged every contentious decision, each totted up a total on which we think were correct/incorrect, I doubt there’d be much discrepancy between teams. And what would exist could easily be explained by simple error over intentional favouritism. That said the inconsistency is maddening, especially on handball. It’s been a mess ever since VAR put the offence under the microscope. The rule’s intent doesn’t match the level of scrutiny, it was intended for blatant offences a human eye could see in real time, not the ball cannoning into a player from a foot away Tomiyasu is a good player, and a miss right now sure. IIRC you claimed he was one of Arsenal’s top 3 players which is what I thought was the stretch. Definitely. After Saliba and Rice he is Arsenal's most important player. And I am sure the most underrated one
Underrated, yeah that’d be a fair accolade. He’s not more important than Odegaard or Saka though. He only made 21 league appearances all told last season and Arsenal kept top spot for quite some time.
If Arsenal fell apart if he was absent they wouldn’t have got close to the league, rather than being front runners and failing in the final stretch as they ultimately did.
He’s a very good player, not disputing that I just think you’re overrating him a smidge here
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On December 31 2023 06:23 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2023 07:19 sharkie wrote:On December 30 2023 07:03 WombaT wrote:On December 29 2023 18:34 sharkie wrote:On December 29 2023 15:09 RKC wrote:On December 29 2023 14:42 FlaShFTW wrote:On December 28 2023 23:18 RKC wrote:
Not sure what's the fuss about the penalty that Everton conceded. If a defending player throw himself to the ground in the penalty box to block a goal-bound shot, there's always a risk of handling the ball and conceding a penalty. That's just football. Hard luck, but the defending team only has itself to blame for allowing the attackers to get into such a dangerous position in the box. Same goes for wicked deflections. Last ditch tackles to block shots is not great defending. As a defensive player myself, I have no sympathy when defenders botch up badly.
Still, definitely agree that referees should be consistent in penalty calls. I don't particularly mind that the handball is called if viewed from the letter of the rules. BUT MAKE IT CONSISTENT. There were like 5 other instances this season of the exact same action, and half are called, half aren't. Then one team who sees the call benefit them multiple times (City) and it's obvious why people are upset and it looks like favoritism/corruption. In other news, WERE TOP OF THE TABLE!!!!! Time to wait for City to win out from here... Losing Salah is gonna be rough, but getting Jota back was so crucial. Arsenal away and City at home are now at minimum, must draws. Cannot afford to lose to them. I have confidence in the rest of the matches. The non-penalty call for Odergaard's handball is a travesty. Liverpool is right to feel aggrieved. But Spurs has been getting a lot of lucky calls this season. Don't think it's favouritism. Just refereering incompetence and poorly formulated rules. At the start of the season I said Spurs are favoured by refs. I was ridiculed and criticised for that. Funny how once more Spurs are gettling a lot of lucky calls "just this one season" right? Who could have prediced that?! I just doubt any team is particularly systemically favoured is all. If we actually logged every contentious decision, each totted up a total on which we think were correct/incorrect, I doubt there’d be much discrepancy between teams. And what would exist could easily be explained by simple error over intentional favouritism. That said the inconsistency is maddening, especially on handball. It’s been a mess ever since VAR put the offence under the microscope. The rule’s intent doesn’t match the level of scrutiny, it was intended for blatant offences a human eye could see in real time, not the ball cannoning into a player from a foot away Tomiyasu is a good player, and a miss right now sure. IIRC you claimed he was one of Arsenal’s top 3 players which is what I thought was the stretch. Definitely. After Saliba and Rice he is Arsenal's most important player. And I am sure the most underrated one Underrated, yeah that’d be a fair accolade. He’s not more important than Odegaard or Saka though. He only made 21 league appearances all told last season and Arsenal kept top spot for quite some time. If Arsenal fell apart if he was absent they wouldn’t have got close to the league, rather than being front runners and failing in the final stretch as they ultimately did. He’s a very good player, not disputing that I just think you’re overrating him a smidge here
Arsenal fell apart because Saliba got injured. If Tomiyasu had been fit he would have been a good enough replacement to take the title home. This season he is more important than Odegaard or Saka. Arsenal's offense totally lost their potential and now defense is more important than ever
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On December 31 2023 01:59 mahrgell wrote:
- translation for the few of us not fluent in Turkish?
- who did what wrong? what are we supposed to be outraged about?
- whats the implication for the world cup?
- how does this relate to CR7?
- why is posting random tweets with some unrelated word salad okay?
From what I got from local news here, Turkish super cup was not/will not be played in Saudi A as expected.
Turkish clubs wanted to celebrate (not sure if the best expression) the founder of the turkish republic reaching 100yo this year and that was denied by the saudi government or if not denied, at least not authorized until the game time.
This led the 2 clubs to be very pissed and both refused to play.
I don't think we are supposed to be outraged, the tweet I believe is mostly to show that "tolerance" levels for foreign customs are still not very high around those parts and a world cup will be played there "soon".
This has no relation to Cronaldo, I believe Stealth's comment was more on the lines that Cronaldo has been buying SA good PR for the last year or so, but this incident has, in his opinion, put that effort down the drain.
As for the tweet post itself, yes a little more context given the original language would have been nice :p
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