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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
July 22 2024 08:24 GMT
#3421
He plays for the dominant club in EPL and has already won everything there is to win. Doesn't need to contest for his spot in the national team, and maybe isn't that interested (or getting sufficient offers) to go do the same thing in another top 5 European league. What would be his reason to stay? Unless you have that internal motivation to keep pushing and pushing like some people do (CRonaldo, Modric, Buffon) etc., he's done everything a footballer in his place can do, and then some.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25346 Posts
July 22 2024 08:37 GMT
#3422
On July 22 2024 17:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2024 16:49 WombaT wrote:
I can’t lie I’ll be super disappointed if a player of KDB’s calibre, basically at the peak of his powers goes to bloody Saudi Arabia like. I suppose as a (not so) closeted England fan there is the silver lining that Phil Foden becomes the main man as it were, coming off a season where really his performances in KdB’s absence were probably what made the difference in City beating Arsenal to the title.

As you say, provided the Kingdom keeps pumping the money in, which I suppose isn’t guaranteed, he’ll still have that opportunity in a few years when he perhaps is a bit over the hill when it comes to top level European football

KdB is rather injury prone. There is no guarantee that money will still be there in a year, after another season of people kicking his knees and ankles.

There’s pretty much a guarantee of a similar wage with Man City if he wants it I’d imagine.

Hey it’s his life! I’d love to see a few more top Europeans do what Clarence Seedorf did and give South America a shot, albeit a big reason he did that was having a Brazilian wife.

Perhaps I’m just too innately hostile to Saudi Arabia to be objective on tangential topics :p
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17992 Posts
July 22 2024 08:51 GMT
#3423
On July 22 2024 17:37 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2024 17:17 Acrofales wrote:
On July 22 2024 16:49 WombaT wrote:
I can’t lie I’ll be super disappointed if a player of KDB’s calibre, basically at the peak of his powers goes to bloody Saudi Arabia like. I suppose as a (not so) closeted England fan there is the silver lining that Phil Foden becomes the main man as it were, coming off a season where really his performances in KdB’s absence were probably what made the difference in City beating Arsenal to the title.

As you say, provided the Kingdom keeps pumping the money in, which I suppose isn’t guaranteed, he’ll still have that opportunity in a few years when he perhaps is a bit over the hill when it comes to top level European football

KdB is rather injury prone. There is no guarantee that money will still be there in a year, after another season of people kicking his knees and ankles.

There’s pretty much a guarantee of a similar wage with Man City if he wants it I’d imagine.

Hey it’s his life! I’d love to see a few more top Europeans do what Clarence Seedorf did and give South America a shot, albeit a big reason he did that was having a Brazilian wife.

Perhaps I’m just too innately hostile to Saudi Arabia to be objective on tangential topics :p

I suspect that wage isn't available at City, or he would probably stay. While City could probably afford it, they maybe don't want to set that precedent, or maybe they just don't think KdB is actually worth N times more than what they're already paying him.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25346 Posts
July 22 2024 08:56 GMT
#3424
On July 22 2024 17:51 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2024 17:37 WombaT wrote:
On July 22 2024 17:17 Acrofales wrote:
On July 22 2024 16:49 WombaT wrote:
I can’t lie I’ll be super disappointed if a player of KDB’s calibre, basically at the peak of his powers goes to bloody Saudi Arabia like. I suppose as a (not so) closeted England fan there is the silver lining that Phil Foden becomes the main man as it were, coming off a season where really his performances in KdB’s absence were probably what made the difference in City beating Arsenal to the title.

As you say, provided the Kingdom keeps pumping the money in, which I suppose isn’t guaranteed, he’ll still have that opportunity in a few years when he perhaps is a bit over the hill when it comes to top level European football

KdB is rather injury prone. There is no guarantee that money will still be there in a year, after another season of people kicking his knees and ankles.

There’s pretty much a guarantee of a similar wage with Man City if he wants it I’d imagine.

Hey it’s his life! I’d love to see a few more top Europeans do what Clarence Seedorf did and give South America a shot, albeit a big reason he did that was having a Brazilian wife.

Perhaps I’m just too innately hostile to Saudi Arabia to be objective on tangential topics :p

I suspect that wage isn't available at City, or he would probably stay. While City could probably afford it, they maybe don't want to set that precedent, or maybe they just don't think KdB is actually worth N times more than what they're already paying him.

Oh I mean a similar wage packet at City to what they’re currently paying him. Yeah they probably can’t/won’t match the top end of Saudi wages
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2564 Posts
July 22 2024 08:58 GMT
#3425
Lots of players increased their worth during the Euro, some lost out. KdB is def. not one of the players that increased, maybe City wants to start building their future with a newer younger player. I dont like players to go to Saudi Arabia but I cant blame them for wanting to cash in.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28669 Posts
July 22 2024 09:40 GMT
#3426
even though there are some players like Modric who keep it up at 39, 33 is pretty old and can be close to retirement age for KDB. Kroos just retired from a position requiring less running and a career with far fewer injuries than KDB and he's only a year and a half older. I can totally picture him having only 1-2 seasons left, maybe retiring after the next WC is most likely.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
July 22 2024 10:23 GMT
#3427
Kroos isnt really a good example of when footballers retire though! Almost no one does what Kroos did.

City also doesnt give older players long contracts IIRC. Didnt they lose quite a few players because they were not willing to give longer contracts?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
July 22 2024 15:28 GMT
#3428
Kubo to LFC would be a surprise and a good move, but also depends on the financials. The rumored 60 million is a bit steep (if pounds. Euros would be better), and 15m/year is also unreasonably high unless the articles are misreporting it as 15m over the whole contract.

But a natural replacement for Salah at RW which is a position we're a bit light in (Harvey, Szobo, and Diaz can all put a shift in there but it's not ideal).
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
July 22 2024 17:48 GMT
#3429
Romano said there is nothing to these rumours
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
July 22 2024 20:06 GMT
#3430
On July 23 2024 02:48 sharkie wrote:
Romano said there is nothing to these rumours

Romano doesn't know much when it comes to Liverpool, and these are Japanese sources that also broke Endo's move initially too. I'd lean more into that these rumors are true than fake.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
July 22 2024 23:33 GMT
#3431
re: kdb leaving

there's also the impending 115 cases against city which may expedite his departure (along with others looking to leave)
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2564 Posts
July 23 2024 06:39 GMT
#3432
On July 23 2024 08:33 GTR wrote:
re: kdb leaving

there's also the impending 115 cases against city which may expedite his departure (along with others looking to leave)


Ah good point, forgot about this!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-23 07:38:42
July 23 2024 07:38 GMT
#3433
On July 23 2024 08:33 GTR wrote:
re: kdb leaving

there's also the impending 115 cases against city which may expedite his departure (along with others looking to leave)

Wanting to win medals that won't get stripped from you is a great motivation to leave!



Who am I kidding? The FA won't have the balls to do what needs to be done.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-24 22:05:20
July 23 2024 08:26 GMT
#3434
Perhaps unfair, but I think "stupid games, stupid prizes" applies to the Saudi league pretty well. I don't think KdB (or anyone else) is going to be remembered for winning the Saudi league or their PotY or anything
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
July 24 2024 18:35 GMT
#3435
Not sure if anyone saw the debacle at the Olympics already. Argentina vs Morocco, Argentina score a last minute equalizer, then fireworks go off from a protestor/pitch invader near their bench. They think FT happened but apparently officials reviewed the equalizer for offsides, so they had to go back out and play another 3 minutes. Morocco win 2-1. Lol.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28669 Posts
July 24 2024 18:40 GMT
#3436
that equalizer is a totally sick goal too lol, two hits in the bar (not offside) before the final rebound into goal.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1059 Posts
July 25 2024 06:38 GMT
#3437
On July 25 2024 03:35 FlaShFTW wrote:
Not sure if anyone saw the debacle at the Olympics already. Argentina vs Morocco, Argentina score a last minute equalizer, then fireworks go off from a protestor/pitch invader near their bench. They think FT happened but apparently officials reviewed the equalizer for offsides, so they had to go back out and play another 3 minutes. Morocco win 2-1. Lol.

I'm surprised it got that far without Argentina being booed off the field of play.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
July 25 2024 16:22 GMT
#3438
On July 25 2024 03:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that equalizer is a totally sick goal too lol, two hits in the bar (not offside) before the final rebound into goal.

Argentina channeled their inner Nunez for that entire sequence hitting the woodwork over and over again. Definitely an incredible sequence, only for the actual goal to be called off.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-25 19:24:48
July 25 2024 19:24 GMT
#3439
On July 25 2024 03:35 FlaShFTW wrote:
Not sure if anyone saw the debacle at the Olympics already. Argentina vs Morocco, Argentina score a last minute equalizer, then fireworks go off from a protestor/pitch invader near their bench. They think FT happened but apparently officials reviewed the equalizer for offsides, so they had to go back out and play another 3 minutes. Morocco win 2-1. Lol.

Never seen anything like it. Can't really imagine a more insane ending tbh, seriously.. glad Morocco won in the end.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 29 2024 18:23 GMT
#3440
If João Neves goes to psg for 70M it is again an overpayment.....why dont clubs ever learn?!

Not on the Renato or Félix level but still.
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