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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
February 07 2023 01:15 GMT
#1601
All the American players he signed sweating
Sucker for nostalgia
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
February 07 2023 16:36 GMT
#1602
There are no downsides to multi-ball, they said.
RIP Meatloaf <3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
February 08 2023 21:21 GMT
#1603
we seem absolutely lost without either casemiro or eriksen.
Commentator
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 08 2023 21:33 GMT
#1604
But you still have Rashford! lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
February 09 2023 00:15 GMT
#1605
On February 09 2023 06:21 GTR wrote:
we seem absolutely lost without either casemiro or eriksen.


Most teams woulf be lost without their two main midfielders. There is no shame there
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
February 09 2023 13:45 GMT
#1606
Risking it for the biscuit and putting Mudryk in my fantasy team. In before he does a Joao Felix and gets a red card or does his ACL
Sucker for nostalgia
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 09 2023 14:01 GMT
#1607
What...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 09 2023 14:12 GMT
#1608
On February 09 2023 23:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What...

https://twitter.com/StoolFootball/status/1623625625389891586

"And for our very first Super League match, we have Napoli facing off against Swindon Town!"
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18086 Posts
February 09 2023 14:21 GMT
#1609
While I support breaking the death grip UEFA (and especially FIFA) have over football, everything about the super league is somehow even worse...
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
February 09 2023 15:37 GMT
#1610
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?
Sucker for nostalgia
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 10 2023 01:17 GMT
#1611
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8716 Posts
February 10 2023 01:43 GMT
#1612
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

i think the assumption is the super league will generate higher revenue because all of the worlds biggest teams are combined.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
February 10 2023 12:45 GMT
#1613
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

It's still a far better guarantee than trying to land top 4 in a league where there are 6 or 7 absolutely massive clubs and handful more that still have adequate resources to challenge you on a good season. I don't feel much sympathy for the colder cash grabbing moves in football, but I'd also hate to be the person who has to budget with the current UCL qualification rules.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
February 10 2023 13:14 GMT
#1614
On February 10 2023 21:45 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

It's still a far better guarantee than trying to land top 4 in a league where there are 6 or 7 absolutely massive clubs and handful more that still have adequate resources to challenge you on a good season. I don't feel much sympathy for the colder cash grabbing moves in football, but I'd also hate to be the person who has to budget with the current UCL qualification rules.

Its actually much, much worse the way they've set it up.
16 teams from EPL?
At least 3 of those will be in the middle of a relegation battle, just to have to travel to the UAE to get absolutely wrecked by PSG for no reason.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18086 Posts
February 10 2023 13:28 GMT
#1615
On February 10 2023 21:45 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

It's still a far better guarantee than trying to land top 4 in a league where there are 6 or 7 absolutely massive clubs and handful more that still have adequate resources to challenge you on a good season. I don't feel much sympathy for the colder cash grabbing moves in football, but I'd also hate to be the person who has to budget with the current UCL qualification rules.

Lets say there's 20 teams in the "top league". Why do you think it'll be easier to avoid relegation battles if that is the best 20 out of, off the top of my head: those same 6-7 teams + Juve, Napoli, both Milans, Barça, Real and Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Bayern, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, PSG, Lyon, Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Sporting, Club Brugge, Anderlecht, Zenith, Spartak Moskow, Legia Warsaw, RB Salzburg, AEK Athena, Olympiakos, ...
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 14:19:31
February 10 2023 14:12 GMT
#1616
On February 10 2023 22:28 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:45 Bacillus wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

It's still a far better guarantee than trying to land top 4 in a league where there are 6 or 7 absolutely massive clubs and handful more that still have adequate resources to challenge you on a good season. I don't feel much sympathy for the colder cash grabbing moves in football, but I'd also hate to be the person who has to budget with the current UCL qualification rules.

Lets say there's 20 teams in the "top league". Why do you think it'll be easier to avoid relegation battles if that is the best 20 out of, off the top of my head: those same 6-7 teams + Juve, Napoli, both Milans, Barça, Real and Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Bayern, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, PSG, Lyon, Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Sporting, Club Brugge, Anderlecht, Zenith, Spartak Moskow, Legia Warsaw, RB Salzburg, AEK Athena, Olympiakos, ...

You still need to have a pretty bad season to fail to leave some of the lot of Brugge, Anderlech, Zenith, Spartak Moskow, Legia Warsaw, Salzburg, AEK Athena or Olympiakos behind. You need to beat 3 of those rather than trying to beat 3 of the top 6 PL clubs. To get relegated, you really need to have a bad season. To fail to qualify to UCL in current situation, you just need 4 of your main competitors to be a bit sharper than you.

That being said, I think relegation could happen. For that they probably have some nice parachute rules in place that are designed with big clubs in mind. It's not like getting relegated means you're playing against small clubs either, these are likely still massive clubs with massive market value there too.

Edit: To be clear, I don't think it's without issues and risk, but I think a league where they get to decide a lot of the rules and details can absolutely give them more financial stability and better risk management. The people planning this may have limited appreciation for football, but I think most of them can smell the money quite alright.

gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
February 10 2023 15:20 GMT
#1617
On February 10 2023 23:12 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 22:28 Acrofales wrote:
On February 10 2023 21:45 Bacillus wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

It's still a far better guarantee than trying to land top 4 in a league where there are 6 or 7 absolutely massive clubs and handful more that still have adequate resources to challenge you on a good season. I don't feel much sympathy for the colder cash grabbing moves in football, but I'd also hate to be the person who has to budget with the current UCL qualification rules.

Lets say there's 20 teams in the "top league". Why do you think it'll be easier to avoid relegation battles if that is the best 20 out of, off the top of my head: those same 6-7 teams + Juve, Napoli, both Milans, Barça, Real and Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Bayern, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, PSG, Lyon, Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Sporting, Club Brugge, Anderlecht, Zenith, Spartak Moskow, Legia Warsaw, RB Salzburg, AEK Athena, Olympiakos, ...

You still need to have a pretty bad season to fail to leave some of the lot of Brugge, Anderlech, Zenith, Spartak Moskow, Legia Warsaw, Salzburg, AEK Athena or Olympiakos behind. You need to beat 3 of those rather than trying to beat 3 of the top 6 PL clubs. To get relegated, you really need to have a bad season. To fail to qualify to UCL in current situation, you just need 4 of your main competitors to be a bit sharper than you.

That being said, I think relegation could happen. For that they probably have some nice parachute rules in place that are designed with big clubs in mind. It's not like getting relegated means you're playing against small clubs either, these are likely still massive clubs with massive market value there too.

Edit: To be clear, I don't think it's without issues and risk, but I think a league where they get to decide a lot of the rules and details can absolutely give them more financial stability and better risk management. The people planning this may have limited appreciation for football, but I think most of them can smell the money quite alright.




A good way of minimizing risk and have better financial stability would be not buying 20yo players for fucking hundreds of millions of pound/euro or making long term contracts to circumvent financial fair play ...

Nowdays its not about the sport anymore but about money and political white washing. This wont change with this new leage where only the richest of the rich already are able to play.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
February 10 2023 17:27 GMT
#1618
On February 10 2023 22:28 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 21:45 Bacillus wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:37 DropBear wrote:
If there is promotion and relegation, I can't see any reason why any EPL teams would bother joining now. The whole point for them, particularly the American owners, was guaranteeing the revenue without having to qualify for the Champions League. If that's not a guarantee, why join when the EPL rights are so lucrative?

It's still a far better guarantee than trying to land top 4 in a league where there are 6 or 7 absolutely massive clubs and handful more that still have adequate resources to challenge you on a good season. I don't feel much sympathy for the colder cash grabbing moves in football, but I'd also hate to be the person who has to budget with the current UCL qualification rules.

Lets say there's 20 teams in the "top league". Why do you think it'll be easier to avoid relegation battles if that is the best 20 out of, off the top of my head: those same 6-7 teams + Juve, Napoli, both Milans, Barça, Real and Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Bayern, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, PSG, Lyon, Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Sporting, Club Brugge, Anderlecht, Zenith, Spartak Moskow, Legia Warsaw, RB Salzburg, AEK Athena, Olympiakos, ...


Not even including Porto there despite being a group winner this year and a consistent top16 finisher in UCL
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9707 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 14:34:00
February 11 2023 14:33 GMT
#1619
Chelsea denied a late penalty by one of the worst VAR failures of the season.x
https://dubz.co/c/g35kmw
RIP Meatloaf <3
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28699 Posts
February 11 2023 14:35 GMT
#1620
How does it not overturn that lol
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