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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 04 2023 16:58 GMT
#1561
Yeah... think Klopp has reached the end of the road.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9655 Posts
February 04 2023 17:11 GMT
#1562
On February 05 2023 01:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah... think Klopp has reached the end of the road.

Plenty of Liverpool fans are still 100% behind him.
Some investment in the Summer, and an acknowledgement that this was a transitional season, and they'll be alright.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18414 Posts
February 04 2023 17:26 GMT
#1563
How is klopp at fault when he is not getting the resources to replace his midfield and if players are burned out from last season?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-04 18:20:47
February 04 2023 18:18 GMT
#1564
Yeah I don't think Klopp being sacked is anywhere close to the right decision. He's had shit luck this season with injuries but I fully expect them to be top 4 next season should they get good players in the summer. Chelsea sacked Tuchel after a rough patch and I really don't think that was the right decision for them at all
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 04 2023 18:21 GMT
#1565
On February 05 2023 02:26 sharkie wrote:
How is klopp at fault when he is not getting the resources to replace his midfield and if players are burned out from last season?

So the £30 million on Gakpo to play him as a striker over Nunez the £90 million striker they didn't need either, in which they could have used that £120 million to fund some midfielders? I don't know how is it NOT Klopp's fault?

He also continues to pick the same midfield who loses every game week in week out as well, benching the likes of Henderson and Fabinho, so i think Klopp has stuff to answer for here.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18414 Posts
February 04 2023 18:49 GMT
#1566
On February 05 2023 03:21 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2023 02:26 sharkie wrote:
How is klopp at fault when he is not getting the resources to replace his midfield and if players are burned out from last season?

So the £30 million on Gakpo to play him as a striker over Nunez the £90 million striker they didn't need either, in which they could have used that £120 million to fund some midfielders? I don't know how is it NOT Klopp's fault?

He also continues to pick the same midfield who loses every game week in week out as well, benching the likes of Henderson and Fabinho, so i think Klopp has stuff to answer for here.


Klopp has nothing to do with nunez or gakpo transfer
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2567 Posts
February 04 2023 19:02 GMT
#1567
I am not even an arsenal fan (even after writing about them in my graduation paper) but I want them to win the league so badly!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 04 2023 19:37 GMT
#1568
On February 05 2023 03:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2023 03:21 Pandemona wrote:
On February 05 2023 02:26 sharkie wrote:
How is klopp at fault when he is not getting the resources to replace his midfield and if players are burned out from last season?

So the £30 million on Gakpo to play him as a striker over Nunez the £90 million striker they didn't need either, in which they could have used that £120 million to fund some midfielders? I don't know how is it NOT Klopp's fault?

He also continues to pick the same midfield who loses every game week in week out as well, benching the likes of Henderson and Fabinho, so i think Klopp has stuff to answer for here.


Klopp has nothing to do with nunez or gakpo transfer

Yes he does, 100% that is like saying Pep has no say on City transfers. Even forgetting that, the two people who were the chief scouts/director of football have all left in October/November.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18414 Posts
February 04 2023 21:00 GMT
#1569
On February 05 2023 04:37 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2023 03:49 sharkie wrote:
On February 05 2023 03:21 Pandemona wrote:
On February 05 2023 02:26 sharkie wrote:
How is klopp at fault when he is not getting the resources to replace his midfield and if players are burned out from last season?

So the £30 million on Gakpo to play him as a striker over Nunez the £90 million striker they didn't need either, in which they could have used that £120 million to fund some midfielders? I don't know how is it NOT Klopp's fault?

He also continues to pick the same midfield who loses every game week in week out as well, benching the likes of Henderson and Fabinho, so i think Klopp has stuff to answer for here.


Klopp has nothing to do with nunez or gakpo transfer

Yes he does, 100% that is like saying Pep has no say on City transfers. Even forgetting that, the two people who were the chief scouts/director of football have all left in October/November.


I know you dont know much about how things are being run but Liverpool is not City and Pep has way more say in what players are let go and bought than Klopp. Klopp has criticised more times than not that hes not getting support. I have never seen Pep say hes not getting what he wants
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-04 21:05:58
February 04 2023 21:05 GMT
#1570
They are the same, it was Klopps team he had in place upstairs, they all left in October/November or before i forget, who do you think is getting players? Think Klopp doesn't sign off of them or tell the club the targets?

How you think Klopp has no say in that club is baffling

A quick google backs that up, with an article when he joined saying he had final say on transfers
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4354 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 03:08:51
February 05 2023 01:50 GMT
#1571
I'm a Liverpool fan. He's being extraordinarily stubborn. We are conceding inside the first 10 minutes literally every single game and in almost identical fashion. Nearly every attack is going down the same side, Alexander Arnold's side. It's a glaring weakness that Klopp does not want to admit. In the past, Henderson or Fabinho covered Trent, but they are out form/exhausted.

The forwards being out of form happens, I don't think you can blame Klopp for that. Even Sadio Mane leaving was covered in advance by the Diaz and Jota signings, but then they both got injured. The signing of Gakpo though was not the answer. Diaz, Jota, Nunez, Firmino, Salah, Elliott, Carvalho and Oxlade-Chamberlain had the front 3 covered, even with injuries.

I'm not saying Klopp needs to go, but he needs to stop being so pig-headed and accept that his favourites aren't doing the job right now, especially AA. Trent needs dropping ASAP, this is a tough call that simply has to be made. Surely someone in the extended squad other then Milner can deputise at right back, though Milner is still a preferred option to Trent right now. Firmino was in incredible form prior to the world cup and has barely featured since, which is ridiculous. And we urgently need a midfield refresh at the end of the season.

EDIT: and Klopp had everything to do with the Nunez transfer. Not as convinced on Gakpo

EDIT EDIT: and the other possibility is finally moving AA into the midfield where he belongs
Sucker for nostalgia
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 05 2023 13:13 GMT
#1572
What about back 3? Imagine Trent as a wingback, less defending needed, more cover and he can play way further forward. That with Robertson the same way on the otherside, crazy potential, helps sure up the defensive line too.

However, back 3's are going out of fashion now with the emphasis on midfield being so strong in this era of football, especially with all the attacking talent they have, would be forced to drop a midfielder/forward player. Would be a short term fix for a long term problem.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4354 Posts
February 05 2023 13:59 GMT
#1573
The midfield is weak enough without reducing it to a 2 man.

Imo the first thing that's needed is to have someone who can and more importantly WILL actually attempt to defend at right back rather than standing where Salah should be and leaving the two centre backs to cover an enormous section of the pitch with a high line.

Bring Firmino back in and play him in his usual spot, with Nunez on the left and Salah on the right. This can help get the press back to somewhat normal. Put literally anyone other than Trent at right back, Milner or Gomez or Tsimikas or Kelleher even. Drop Trent or put him in the midfield 3.
Sucker for nostalgia
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 05 2023 14:56 GMT
#1574
Yeah the biggest need for Liverpool is Bellingham, as is with a lot of clubs, even though Bellingham idolizes Gerrard, will he go there without champs league football / Liverpool able to afford him.

He will be way more money than Enzo was for example.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
February 05 2023 17:35 GMT
#1575
I think Alexander-Arnold is being scape-goated a little for Liverpool's defensive problems. Look at Wolves' goals yesterday. Their 1st and 3rd came down their left. The 2nd was a set-piece with awful defending everywhere. (I don't know where Gomez is for that first goal but the ball is chipped into the space he vacated, and for the third goal Thiago doesn't track back with Neves.)
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 05 2023 18:26 GMT
#1576
Spurs doing us a solid lmao
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18414 Posts
February 05 2023 18:38 GMT
#1577
Wow spurs saving arsenals neck
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
February 05 2023 19:00 GMT
#1578
That is 4 games is it now? Man City have not scored or won at Spurs new stadium, thats wild, even now there is an excuse as Man City look utterly bang average, even with Haaland up front, let alone the huge gaps and holes in their defending.

Looks like there really is NO competition for Arsenal in this league this year. Liverpool and Chelsea battling for Europa conference league, Newcastle not good enough yet, Man Utd not good enough yet and City are just not even bothering lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9655 Posts
February 05 2023 19:34 GMT
#1579
Forest are 5 points behind Liverpool.
After 21 games.
haha.
2 reasons to be happy there.
RIP Meatloaf <3
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 05 2023 19:47 GMT
#1580
We haven't won at Goodison Park since Wenger was in charge. Think it's been like seven years now lmao. Glad that City's curse at the new Spurs stadium held true today
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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