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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 23 2023 01:05 GMT
#1441
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28789 Posts
January 23 2023 05:39 GMT
#1442
Season is halfway through and Arsenal has a 5 to 8 point lead. Calling anything is wayy premature tbh.

They look great and I hope they hold, though!
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-23 06:36:14
January 23 2023 06:29 GMT
#1443
I really hope Xhaka and Partey can hold the whole season
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8854 Posts
January 23 2023 07:22 GMT
#1444
On January 23 2023 10:05 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2023 09:22 DropBear wrote:
I wasn't able to stay up for the game, highlights looked fantastic.

How effective was Wout Weghorst? I've always been a big fan but it did surprise me that United brought him in

Pretty garbage performance tbh. I can't remember anything notable he did

im looking at antony with complete confusion tbh. with the exception of his very first few games, he has been completely awful. how we paid 90m for a guy who cannot beat anyone and is an even more predictable, but no where near as effective version of robben, i will not understand. any attack that ends up on the right with antony goes dead.
and we still have no explanation on wtf is going up with sancho. our best replacement for antony has just gone completely missing for 3 months for reasons unknown
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
January 23 2023 07:51 GMT
#1445
On January 23 2023 16:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2023 10:05 plasmidghost wrote:
On January 23 2023 09:22 DropBear wrote:
I wasn't able to stay up for the game, highlights looked fantastic.

How effective was Wout Weghorst? I've always been a big fan but it did surprise me that United brought him in

Pretty garbage performance tbh. I can't remember anything notable he did

im looking at antony with complete confusion tbh. with the exception of his very first few games, he has been completely awful. how we paid 90m for a guy who cannot beat anyone and is an even more predictable, but no where near as effective version of robben, i will not understand. any attack that ends up on the right with antony goes dead.
and we still have no explanation on wtf is going up with sancho. our best replacement for antony has just gone completely missing for 3 months for reasons unknown


Should have bought Mitoma from Brighton. :D
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28789 Posts
January 23 2023 09:22 GMT
#1446
Sancho must be one of the most disappointing transfers in PL history. Guy looked fantastic for Dortmund for a long period of time. You can still occasionally see that he has a high skill ceiling but overall he's been consistently underwhelming.

Antony wasn't nearly as proven, and players struggling the first half of their first PL season is to be expected. On paper I think spending 95 mill euro for Antony was a lot worse than spending 85 million euro for Sancho, but Sancho has been much more disappointing.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-23 09:34:51
January 23 2023 09:29 GMT
#1447
Sancho seems done and fated to walk down the tragic path of Andy Carroll and Delle Ali.

My hope is for Bellingham to stay the hell away from EPL till he hits at least 24-25 years old.

Tammy Abraham is absolutely in beast mode in Serie A. I really think it's best for English rising stars to not be tempted by the riches of the EPL. Only sign for a top club if there's a coach who can truly nurture youngsters well (eg Klopp, Pep or Arteta).
gg no re thx
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8854 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-23 09:50:09
January 23 2023 09:48 GMT
#1448
i think dele alli is a bit too far. alli is special kind of failure and i would be very surprised if sancho fell to those kinds of depths.
i would put ten hag above arteta at least as far as nurturing youngsters go, given his previous stint at ajax. thats what makes sancho's case more bizarre; 3 different managers that couldnt get him to perform at dortmund level and he is well into his 2nd full season with a coach now that is considered to have brought out the best performances for each member of the current squad, with the exception of maybe bruno fernandes who set the bar too high in his first season.
hopefully the current situation is part of ten hags "nurturing youngsters" plan and sancho returns to be better than ever. otherwise it would indeed be a massive disappointment.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-23 10:10:57
January 23 2023 10:06 GMT
#1449
Bellingham will definitely work at a bigger club, he has proven himself in the world cup, in the England national team and he also performs against Bayern in the Bundesliga. Sancho was invisible in the bigger games at Dortmund

Sancho's fail at Utd is really not that surprising to me
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4400 Posts
January 23 2023 10:14 GMT
#1450
On January 23 2023 15:29 sharkie wrote:
I really hope Xhaka and Partey can hold the whole season

Depends on whether Partey ends up getting charged or not
Sucker for nostalgia
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-23 19:30:37
January 23 2023 19:30 GMT
#1451
lampard finally sacked lol
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 23 2023 20:22 GMT
#1452
Hope Everton give Dyche a chance, he deserves a bigger club with better players to try and work his way up. He also has relegation battle experience to get them out of trouble as well.

Getting someone like Bielsa in just relegates them straight away because you can't learn his style in 5 months and expect not to lose many games trying it.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
January 24 2023 07:45 GMT
#1453
On January 24 2023 05:22 Pandemona wrote:
Hope Everton give Dyche a chance, he deserves a bigger club with better players to try and work his way up. He also has relegation battle experience to get them out of trouble as well.

Getting someone like Bielsa in just relegates them straight away because you can't learn his style in 5 months and expect not to lose many games trying it.

Some smaller club could probably accept relegation as a possible outcome and prepare accordingly, but Everton likely isn't built for that. Last time relegation was approaching, there was some talk that majority of their contracts don't have relegation clauses in them. Getting relegated would mean they're forced to offload unsustainable contracts and rebuild big time.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
January 24 2023 07:52 GMT
#1454
On January 24 2023 16:45 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2023 05:22 Pandemona wrote:
Hope Everton give Dyche a chance, he deserves a bigger club with better players to try and work his way up. He also has relegation battle experience to get them out of trouble as well.

Getting someone like Bielsa in just relegates them straight away because you can't learn his style in 5 months and expect not to lose many games trying it.

Some smaller club could probably accept relegation as a possible outcome and prepare accordingly, but Everton likely isn't built for that. Last time relegation was approaching, there was some talk that majority of their contracts don't have relegation clauses in them. Getting relegated would mean they're forced to offload unsustainable contracts and rebuild big time.


Which wouldnt be so bad in the case of Everton imo...
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28789 Posts
January 24 2023 08:04 GMT
#1455
Everton is one of 6 clubs to never be relegated from the PL.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
January 24 2023 08:16 GMT
#1456
On January 24 2023 17:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Everton is one of 6 clubs to never be relegated from the PL.


Oh well then they definitely dont want that to happen
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
January 24 2023 13:36 GMT
#1457
On January 24 2023 17:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Everton is one of 6 clubs to never be relegated from the PL.

Naming them was easier than I expected...

+ Show Spoiler [Answers] +
Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and Everton.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2044 Posts
January 24 2023 14:01 GMT
#1458
On January 24 2023 16:52 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2023 16:45 Bacillus wrote:
On January 24 2023 05:22 Pandemona wrote:
Hope Everton give Dyche a chance, he deserves a bigger club with better players to try and work his way up. He also has relegation battle experience to get them out of trouble as well.

Getting someone like Bielsa in just relegates them straight away because you can't learn his style in 5 months and expect not to lose many games trying it.

Some smaller club could probably accept relegation as a possible outcome and prepare accordingly, but Everton likely isn't built for that. Last time relegation was approaching, there was some talk that majority of their contracts don't have relegation clauses in them. Getting relegated would mean they're forced to offload unsustainable contracts and rebuild big time.


Which wouldnt be so bad in the case of Everton imo...

I think it could get pretty bad even compared to the current situation.

Your organization has to be downsized, every other club knows you absolutely have to sell players and buy replacements and you're going to be scrambling to build a coherent roster out from nowhere. An overhaul is good, but you'd want to do that over a bunch of years, not in one summer or so. To me getting relegated would be more like the trajectory of Sunderland or at least Stoke or West Brom than some quick bounce back that some clubs have mustered.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26736 Posts
January 24 2023 18:56 GMT
#1459
On January 23 2023 18:22 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Sancho must be one of the most disappointing transfers in PL history. Guy looked fantastic for Dortmund for a long period of time. You can still occasionally see that he has a high skill ceiling but overall he's been consistently underwhelming.

Antony wasn't nearly as proven, and players struggling the first half of their first PL season is to be expected. On paper I think spending 95 mill euro for Antony was a lot worse than spending 85 million euro for Sancho, but Sancho has been much more disappointing.

I still hope he comes good, he was electric at Dortmund. I've heard it said that he's much more of a systems player than his flair would have one think, especially as he's not rapidly quick. Prospers around other intelligent players where he can make give-and-gos, play 1-2s and beat a player in a tight area with his technical ability, make clever passes. He's not one to drive and drive with pace and physicality like Rashford can do.

Maybe if his head straight, and a United team that is looking more and more functional the prospects of him finding his way isn't inconceivable.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-24 19:04:31
January 24 2023 18:58 GMT
#1460
On January 24 2023 17:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Everton is one of 6 clubs to never be relegated from the PL.

There is a 7th. They haven't been there from the start though.

Edit: Actually 8.
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