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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2662 Posts
June 17 2021 21:00 GMT
#3301
Third place would mean they might play against France ..... haha no
Second place would mean they might play against Italy .... oh hell no :O
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
June 17 2021 21:07 GMT
#3302
On June 18 2021 04:55 Liquid`Drone wrote:
.. you said if one player gets covid. For 48 hours to happen, more than 13 out of 26 players need to be out of commission.


Ahh ok, my bad.

Nevertheless, still think the Danish team should have been those 48 h or more.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
June 17 2021 21:31 GMT
#3303
I mean, I'm not arguing it was perfectly handled. But giving 48 hours would mean that Finland would get less than 48 hours between their game vs Denmark and their next game against Russia - unless you want to move that game around, too. There seems to be a pretty strong consensus that this is not sufficient. There are also thousands of supporters that have rented hotel rooms and booked flights for time period x to x - moving a game by 48 hours would probably screw a whole lot of those over.

I don't think this was a 'money' issue. I think it was a 'there's no way of handling this that doesn't screw over either Denmark or Finland or that significantly fucks with the schedule of the entire tournament' - and then they went with screwing over Denmark. Then it also seems like the communication was bad and dishonest - there have been contradictory statements from UEFA and from the Danish team, and I believe the Danish team. However, I do, ultimately, believe that 'now that we know that Eriksen isn't dying, we're giving you the options of play now or play tomorrow' is no worse than any other solution I've seen.

Based on today's match, I still think Denmark is highly likely to advance. They look a lot better than Russia, and Belgium is gonna beat Finland 95%+ of the time.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18387 Posts
June 17 2021 21:57 GMT
#3304
On June 18 2021 02:30 mahrgell wrote:
KDB, subbed in, assisted one, scored another one...

Lol. I just transferred him out in my fantasy as i thought he wouldn't be fit :'( I took Wijnaldum instead, who played a fine match, but not a lot of points :/
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 22:02:44
June 17 2021 22:02 GMT
#3305
I wonder when Netherlands will be stopped. Because I cannot see better teams to allow them this gazillion chances so they can score some goals. The effectivity of their scoring is... not good. Hope they get better in it, because currently they're my #2 pick of entertaining teams to watch right after Italy. Also I hope France gets more active because they have the team that should be #1. There's no hope for Spain xD
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 17 2021 23:56 GMT
#3306
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 01:58:51
June 18 2021 01:56 GMT
#3307
Calling it now, a player will pour out the drinks, or worse for a player to take a sip then spit it out. I mean this is just asking for trouble.

Teams at Euro 2020 could face fines if their players move drinks provided by sponsors at news conferences, as Cristiano Ronaldo and Paul Pogba have done in recent days.


Uefa's Euro 2020 tournament director Martin Kallen said players were contractually obliged "through their federation of the tournament regulations to follow".

However, he said he understood the actions of players who, like Pogba, did such things for religious reasons.

Teams have been reminded of their contractual regulations and Kallen said disciplinary action was "a possibility".

Uefa does not intend to directly fine players and any sanctions are at the discretion of the national federations.

"We are never fining players directly from the Uefa side, we will do this always through the participating national association and then they could look if they will go further to the player, but we are not going directly for the moment to the player," Kallen said.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27220 Posts
June 18 2021 03:23 GMT
#3308
On June 18 2021 06:31 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean, I'm not arguing it was perfectly handled. But giving 48 hours would mean that Finland would get less than 48 hours between their game vs Denmark and their next game against Russia - unless you want to move that game around, too. There seems to be a pretty strong consensus that this is not sufficient. There are also thousands of supporters that have rented hotel rooms and booked flights for time period x to x - moving a game by 48 hours would probably screw a whole lot of those over.

I don't think this was a 'money' issue. I think it was a 'there's no way of handling this that doesn't screw over either Denmark or Finland or that significantly fucks with the schedule of the entire tournament' - and then they went with screwing over Denmark. Then it also seems like the communication was bad and dishonest - there have been contradictory statements from UEFA and from the Danish team, and I believe the Danish team. However, I do, ultimately, believe that 'now that we know that Eriksen isn't dying, we're giving you the options of play now or play tomorrow' is no worse than any other solution I've seen.

Based on today's match, I still think Denmark is highly likely to advance. They look a lot better than Russia, and Belgium is gonna beat Finland 95%+ of the time.

As much as I’m not exactly a massive fan of UEFA I think this is pretty much bang on.

Not sure where you could move fixtures to without huge disruption, especially with many fans no doubt using their vacation time from work and monies in travelling and booking hotels etc.

While not quite as ambitious as first planned (sadly), the whole logistics side is a tad more complex than your traditional Euros that are in one/two countries tops too.

UEFA’s statement was very poor though, I mean there’s a world of difference between ‘the players wanted to play’ and ‘the players picked one of the two options we gave them’.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 05:16:19
June 18 2021 05:06 GMT
#3309
On June 18 2021 12:23 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2021 06:31 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I mean, I'm not arguing it was perfectly handled. But giving 48 hours would mean that Finland would get less than 48 hours between their game vs Denmark and their next game against Russia - unless you want to move that game around, too. There seems to be a pretty strong consensus that this is not sufficient. There are also thousands of supporters that have rented hotel rooms and booked flights for time period x to x - moving a game by 48 hours would probably screw a whole lot of those over.

I don't think this was a 'money' issue. I think it was a 'there's no way of handling this that doesn't screw over either Denmark or Finland or that significantly fucks with the schedule of the entire tournament' - and then they went with screwing over Denmark. Then it also seems like the communication was bad and dishonest - there have been contradictory statements from UEFA and from the Danish team, and I believe the Danish team. However, I do, ultimately, believe that 'now that we know that Eriksen isn't dying, we're giving you the options of play now or play tomorrow' is no worse than any other solution I've seen.

Based on today's match, I still think Denmark is highly likely to advance. They look a lot better than Russia, and Belgium is gonna beat Finland 95%+ of the time.

As much as I’m not exactly a massive fan of UEFA I think this is pretty much bang on.

Not sure where you could move fixtures to without huge disruption, especially with many fans no doubt using their vacation time from work and monies in travelling and booking hotels etc.

While not quite as ambitious as first planned (sadly), the whole logistics side is a tad more complex than your traditional Euros that are in one/two countries tops too.

UEFA’s statement was very poor though, I mean there’s a world of difference between ‘the players wanted to play’ and ‘the players picked one of the two options we gave them’.

Yeah.

I feel like even the 'players wanted it' may have seemed a good idea for a moment. Once Eriksen is confirmed stable and he tells them it's fine for him they go on, everyone is running all kinds of emotional highs. If UEFA then throws in a few preliminary suggestions that seem easiest for them to manage, it may very well be that nobody even feels like standing their ground. A few hours later the emotional stuff settles and everything seems like a terrible idea, but the press is out, the match is scheduled and so on.

It's still a big mistake to put that in a press release, but I can see it happening for quite human reasons rather than intentional PR twist attempt.

I think one reasonable suggestion was that the Danish FA should've stood in as a level-headed/cold blooded mediator in the aftermath negotiations. I don't know what kind of solution they could've landed given the circumstances, but it still would have given the team itself a bit protection in the middle of the emotional stuff. (Assuming they werent' doing all this already anyway)
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
June 18 2021 05:33 GMT
#3310
UEFA could have handled things better, what annoys me most is that they accept no blame afterwards. I understand that they do not have protocols for that kind of situations and missteps can happen, but would be nice if they said they need to reflect on it and make rules in case something similar happens.

On another note, came to think about Mou throw away both De Bruyne and Lukaku at Chelsea, remember that was the time in knew Mou had no eye for talent.
GO OG
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7324 Posts
June 18 2021 07:39 GMT
#3311
The whole coca cola gate is kinda funny. Football really isn't about football anymore, is it?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2741 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 07:58:22
June 18 2021 07:56 GMT
#3312
Netherlands is doing better than I expected despite the handicap of having De Boer as a coach.

On June 17 2021 23:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Russian coach drank a Coke. Bigger question is how the hell he managed to open one of the bottles?


Opening bottles with other bottles, or lighters or a table is very common in a lot of European countries. Nobody would be surprised here in Spain xD
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
June 18 2021 08:15 GMT
#3313
On June 18 2021 16:39 Harris1st wrote:
The whole coca cola gate is kinda funny. Football really isn't about football anymore, is it?

Hasn't been for over 30 years, maybe even more.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 18 2021 11:57 GMT
#3314
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18387 Posts
June 18 2021 12:45 GMT
#3315
On June 18 2021 10:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Calling it now, a player will pour out the drinks, or worse for a player to take a sip then spit it out. I mean this is just asking for trouble.

Show nested quote +
Teams at Euro 2020 could face fines if their players move drinks provided by sponsors at news conferences, as Cristiano Ronaldo and Paul Pogba have done in recent days.


Show nested quote +
Uefa's Euro 2020 tournament director Martin Kallen said players were contractually obliged "through their federation of the tournament regulations to follow".

However, he said he understood the actions of players who, like Pogba, did such things for religious reasons.

Teams have been reminded of their contractual regulations and Kallen said disciplinary action was "a possibility".

Uefa does not intend to directly fine players and any sanctions are at the discretion of the national federations.

"We are never fining players directly from the Uefa side, we will do this always through the participating national association and then they could look if they will go further to the player, but we are not going directly for the moment to the player," Kallen said.


Source


Honestly, Portugal getting fined for CR7 removing a coca cola bottle is about the worst possible PR the UEFA or Coca Cola could get from this. I can't wait for this to happen. Also, not as if CR7 is strapped for cash to pay a few thousand euro fine. It will probably earn him more in goodwill with a few more Instagram followers than it costs him anyway!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28873 Posts
June 18 2021 12:47 GMT
#3316
Ya, I thought about this too.. Normally I'd entirely expect people to get punished by UEFA or whatever for doing this, because they really don't want to set the precedent of people not respecting their sponsors.. But I mean, them fining CR over this would be so much worse for them from a PR pov than what the damage they already took is.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 13:47:26
June 18 2021 13:22 GMT
#3317
Sweden be like - oy, mates, you remember how successful the Spain tactic was? Let's play like them against Slovakia!

Edit> in the end Sweden realized they're not Spain and returned to their defensive tactics xD
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 18 2021 14:28 GMT
#3318
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Deleted User 173346
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16169 Posts
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#3319
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
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