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Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 23 2019 21:45 haitike wrote: This season Barcelona is the most boring Barcelona I've seen in my 20 years watching the team. Its like watching 90s era italian teams. Except they arent even good at defending.. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1960 Posts
On November 24 2019 04:00 sneirac wrote: vid: https://streamable.com/itim1 I agree with this call, Lovren is in prime position to head the ball if Wijnaldum doesn't get it and gets shoved out of the way. It might be a soft call for the premier league, but then again so was the foul for the freekick Palace got to create this set piece in the first place. It's really hard to judge the amount of force used on slow mo, but I think the extension of arms gives the ref the possibility to call it at least. I'm a Liverpool fan, so I'll take it  | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1960 Posts
On November 24 2019 04:48 Elentos wrote: Bayern have only had on shot on their goal by the opposition since Flick has taken over. And they've been slowly playing more attractive football as well. As long as things go that well they can be pretty relaxed looking for a new coach. Whether that ends up Poch (whether in Summer to get the sweet Spurs money or in Winter) or ten Hag, who knows. But feels like there's very little rush for them now. It's sometimes really weird with these managerial changes though. Ole had most success on his interim period. Sometimes the real level stabilizes only a bit later. But yeah, the start has been very convincing and there's very little urgency in changing this as it stands. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
River dominated for 88 minutes, Gabriel Barbosa did nothing for the entirity of the match, but when the final was about to end in favor of River 1-0, here comes Gabriel Barbosa to score 2 goals (89 and 92) to win the Copa Libertadores Oh, and he also got sent off minute 93, and he touched the cup | ||
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whistleboss
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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
On November 24 2019 07:24 Faruko wrote: That was one hell of a final River dominated for 88 minutes, Gabriel Barbosa did nothing for the entirity of the match, but when the final was about to end in favor of River 1-0, here comes Gabriel Barbosa to score 2 goals (89 and 92) to win the Copa Libertadores Oh, and he also got sent off minute 93, and he touched the cup I would not say that a team that stayed with the ball for only 39% of the time was dominating. River scored a goal early in a complete meltdown of Flamengo's defense, defended really well after that and in every chance they got, they shot on goal. And also wasted time, lots of time, in typical Argentinean football fashion. They had 2 good chances of scoring after the goal that were worked plays and not just a random shot from midfield. This Flamengo is the best offensive team in South America in the past 10, 15 years, at least. Kudos to River for holding them for 88 minutes but you need to do it for at least 90. They are not as good defensively, as we saw today. Blaming Pratto for the loss is pretty dumb. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
Liverpool did not play well or look good. But in the end they got the result. Things keep going for them this season. Good job Famengo. I know nothing about South American football. | ||
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Greg_J
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evilfatsh1t
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On November 24 2019 10:03 ivancype wrote: I would not say that a team that stayed with the ball for only 39% of the time was dominating. River scored a goal early in a complete meltdown of Flamengo's defense, defended really well after that and in every chance they got, they shot on goal. And also wasted time, lots of time, in typical Argentinean football fashion. They had 2 good chances of scoring after the goal that were worked plays and not just a random shot from midfield. This Flamengo is the best offensive team in South America in the past 10, 15 years, at least. Kudos to River for holding them for 88 minutes but you need to do it for at least 90. They are not as good defensively, as we saw today. Blaming Pratto for the loss is pretty dumb. I know! Flamengo has like what 30 matches without losing? 13 points above n2 in Brasileirao and can win it if Palmeiras loses today right? All I'm saying is that River played one hell of a final and had everything set to win their 3rd Libertadores in like 5-6 years... Madness, up until those last few minutes, man that was great to watch. Flamengo made such great decisions, sold Vinicius & can't remember the other dude for like 90m, brought Gabriel Barbosa, Filipe Luis and Jorge Jesus Great investment that was fully worth it. You gotta give it to me that River was 2-3 steps above Flamengo, BUT THAT'S FOOTBALL, 2 PLAYS AND VOILA, YOUR SECOND LIBERTADORES ON THE SAME DAY 38 YEARS LATER!!! (both were 23 nov) I'm a gabigol fan | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On November 24 2019 13:32 evilfatsh1t wrote: how was sterlings goal ruled offside? wtf? ![[image loading]](https://scontent-sin2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/76778215_10158315068765982_8591028760688459776_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=-uHzD-MvNZEAQkUZPjOhuzLJ72pMNgWRLE-X2cJshGV_mkzN6FfND8yQw&_nc_ht=scontent-sin2-1.xx&oh=2b65a57d82d5a3db647f5c39a64aad44&oe=5E7B1925) At first glance I'm with you Sterling looks onside. But I think what the VAR guys are saying is that (who's the defender?)'s arms are not a part of him that can play the ball so don't count as playing Sterling onside. So technically Sterling's shoulder is beyond (whoever this is)'s left but cheek. So if you want to be an absolute dick about it (which VAR officials absolutely do) then he's offisde. But how accurately can you determine the excat frame at which the ball is played? I think there needs to be some kind of rule about margins for error where if it's so close to call you just let it go. But that just posses more questions. How do you determine to close to call, what are the margins of error. You have to draw lines somewhere and it's always going to cause issues. edit: Also Sterling's comment ㅋㅋ | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8687 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8687 Posts
also, even from the image above, if we draw a line against sterlings shoulder how are we ignoring the defenders shoulder? thats some bs right there | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On November 24 2019 23:51 evilfatsh1t wrote: yeah by the letter of the law. a ref without var would never have called this offside though, and deservedly so. gregj pretty much says it all about how they should allow for margins of error. also "attackers advantage" has all but disappeared which sucks because it was a very good run from sterling also, even from the image above, if we draw a line against sterlings shoulder how are we ignoring the defenders shoulder? thats some bs right there I get what youre saying, but there were dozens of calls before var where much worse non calls or phantom offside calls stood. And if the rules instituted a 15cm margin of error, people would still bitch about a 14.99cm or a 15.01cm call. I just dont understand how the premier league has so much trouble with offsides and VAR, the bundesliga had other issues with it but I can't remember close offside calls ever taking up that much time or being this controversial. | ||
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