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sharkie
Austria18699 Posts
On May 14 2018 14:35 Rebs wrote: How many teams have hit 100 league points in the PL again ? wrong question. The real question should be "How many teams have broken most points record in PL"? | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28861 Posts
The answer is 4, though. Both to how many teams have broken most points record in pl, and to how many teams have broken least losses record. Maybe it looks slightly different if you start calculating after they went from 22 to 20 teams but I don't care enough. :D I don't really think the achievements need to be compared, they're both fantastic. We've decided to reward winning more than drawing, I guess to incentivize attacking football, but that's a bit arbitrary, so the point record is, too. But even under a 2 point per win 1 point per draw ruleset, this City would have ended up 4 points ahead of the invincibles. To me though the main thing is how convincingly dominant they've been. Invincibles were saved by Henry magic in many games, and if you only look at the games they won, they won by an average of 1.8 goals. City this season on average wins by 2.4 goals, and they've been remarkably independent of individual players. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18699 Posts
 Reb just decided to hate for whatever reason. Also 100 points have been reached in other leagues, no? (with 20 teams) But Invincibles definitely did not happen in La Liga, so for me that is another indication what is more difficult to achieve. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
If not the premier league will be forever remembered for Leicester win! | ||
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Espers
United Kingdom606 Posts
Barca could've got it this season if they played Messi and this Barca side is considerably worse than when Pep was the coach | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2071 Posts
On May 14 2018 20:57 Liquid`Drone wrote: To me though the main thing is how convincingly dominant they've been. Invincibles were saved by Henry magic in many games, and if you only look at the games they won, they won by an average of 1.8 goals. City this season on average wins by 2.4 goals, and they've been remarkably independent of individual players. If anything, I think City looked even more menacing early season with Mendy as left back. If they're still hungry enough and not burned out by Pep's perfectionism, they could come back even better after the summer. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 14 2018 18:39 sharkie wrote: wrong question. The real question should be "How many teams have broken most points record in PL"? Drone already pointed out the stupidity in your failed attempt to flip the script. No need to address. On May 14 2018 21:44 sharkie wrote: Well I did say "for me" in my post so I think I made it clear that it is my opinion Reb just decided to hate for whatever reason. Also 100 points have been reached in other leagues, no? (with 20 teams) But Invincibles definitely did not happen in La Liga, so for me that is another indication what is more difficult to achieve. I just pointed out the fallacy in the supporting arguments for your opinion. You are entitled to your Wenger loving, and nothing wrong with having an opinion but if you are going to add additional commentary you should expect some feedback on that. Not sure what hating is involved here. Besides I wanted to give you some of your own medicine for a change with a shitty one liner, feels good init.. Personally the fact that no one has ever done it in the PL, since what was a relatively early period in league history just serves to highlight two things 1)The PL game is harder now (duhhh but still, I did say highlight) 2) Most top teams dont really give a shit about going unbeaten. Moving on, Arsenal isnt the only team to go unbeaten even in English footballs top flight. Enter Preston North End. Other leagues's (since you brought it up) Capello did it with Milan before that in the 90's or something, Celtic did it last year, or was it the year before? Pretty sure there are other crabby italian teams that might have pulled it off. Teams built not to lose can do that. + Show Spoiler [Arsenal 2003-4] + Though to be fair that Arsenal team was hardly built not to lose. Their defense was legit without having to play crabby ball. If Barca reallyyyy cared they wouldn't have been playing with half the reserve squad yesterday, although I doubt they thought they would get wrecked so hard, and some of the goals from Levante were stunners or perfect counters, in many ways it was just unlucky. Teams built to win consistently dont care if they go a particular season unbeaten. They wouldnt mind it, but its not exactly a priority. Because at the end of the day, losing any game can just be about getting unlucky, or in Arsenals case, having the best player in the league by a country mil bail you out in games you were not playing well. Everyone who saw Arsenal back then knows what I am talking about. Its an overly romanticized achievement, because lets face it. What else do Arsenal fans have going for them since? Besides the longest unbeaten streak is much longer then a season anyway. Having that fall in a season period is more coincidence then anything else, its an achievement nonetheless, again you can feel its a bigger deal. But for people who like teams that win more and draw less I wouldn't mind a loss here or there. You dont win by going unbeaten, you win by having more points than everyone else. And being the best at getting the most points or even as Pande mentioned, three-peating means you are a serial winner. That should be the objective of a protagonist always. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28861 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 14 2018 23:41 Liquid`Drone wrote: I'm actually largely in agreement with the idea that a team has to win more than one year in a row before the team / the manager is truly impressive. I think City is gonna do that, though. :p Me too, but I dont think they will be as dominant, and I would really like it if Liverpool made a better fist of it next year. As much as I hate to admit it, United will probably be more consistent next year aswell. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
This will be fun. What will Neymar and friends say, when they suddenly have to deal with TT's very strict regime? | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 15 2018 02:03 mahrgell wrote: PSG getting Thomas Tuchel as their new manager. This will be fun. What will Neymar and friends say, when they suddenly have to deal with TT's very strict regime? This feels like a match made in hell if Im totally honest. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2071 Posts
Now it feels like too much of a superstar show for Tuchel to take over. | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2071 Posts
On paper that team looks pretty scary apart from some defensive weaknesses maybe. Both Alisson and Ederson are fine goalies, for defence they've got Thiago Silva and Felipe Luiz least and Marcelo is absolute top tier left back. Couthinho, Casemiro and Paulinho should offer some decent options for midfield and they've still got Neymar, Firmino and Gabriel Jesus for whatever their offensive arsenal needs. Depth wise I'm not totally sure, but you could definitely form some interesting starting 11s with those players. Combining Neymar and Firmino for example could be interesting. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On May 15 2018 05:21 Bacillus wrote: Neymar is part of the Brazil World Cup team. On paper that team looks pretty scary apart from some defensive weaknesses maybe. Both Alisson and Ederson are fine goalies, for defence they've got Thiago Silva and Felipe Luiz least and Marcelo is absolute top tier left back. Couthinho, Casemiro and Paulinho should offer some decent options for midfield and they've still got Neymar, Firmino and Gabriel Jesus for whatever their offensive arsenal needs. Depth wise I'm not totally sure, but you could definitely form some interesting starting 11s with those players. Combining Neymar and Firmino for example could be interesting. Silva has been pretty shit if im being completely honest. But overall Brazil looks decent on paper, as does France. I think if their midfield can keep control of the game and not let so much pressure getting to their defense, they will get a good shot at going far. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28861 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On May 15 2018 06:50 Liquid`Drone wrote: does anybody have a top 4 WC favorite consisting of a team other than germany brazil spain france? interested in hearing your reasoning if so! Pande surely likes to have a word with you. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On May 15 2018 06:50 Liquid`Drone wrote: does anybody have a top 4 WC favorite consisting of a team other than germany brazil spain france? interested in hearing your reasoning if so! Portugal because they can play ugly and Ronaldo their way to victory Belgium because they actually have a pretty decent team on paper as well Italy because they always play a very underappreciated solid football and its hard to beat team like that, especially when they are not there for you to beat (hah!) England because people beleive what the media tells them to and i have no doubt that England is the undisputed champion of the world! | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4007 Posts
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