EPTNBA Offseason 2017 - Page 8
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Jerubaal
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JimmiC
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 23 2017 14:01 JimmiC wrote: He played for ARizona state last year. Looks like his upside is a better ryan anderson. So he could be a component. I agree with you that the celts are not there yet. But when you have as many B+ assets as they have they need to leverage them for some A's other wise they will just continue to be a top hlaf of the east team. Which I think is basically what you are saying as well. The big advantage tehy have. Is they can keep swinging for the fences hoping a draft pick or two hit while competing because the nets made the worst trade in NBA history. I don't evaluate any player on the Bulls or Celtics as B+ at the moment. Regarding Markannen, if he is Ryan Anderson, that is a failure. If he is Ryan Anderson who is a Draymond/Durant level defender, then we have something. That is a player that can contribute to a real team. That is the real thing about today's NBA, defense. A drunken 50 year old Chris Mullen could play offense for most teams now, the problem is defense. The league is 2-way players, and at the 4/5 it seems to be much easier to teach good defenders to shoot 3s (they get wide open 3s!) than it is to mold shitty defenders into players. That is why, IMO, this draft is overrated. Who can play defense? Fox & Jackson, maybe Fultz. The rest of the top 10 is a crapshoot. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On June 23 2017 13:41 andrewlt wrote: The Warriors also bought the pick that became Patrick McCaw, who gave them decent minutes this year. I got a laugh looking at ESPN's list of team needs. They listed the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Rockets and Celtics as "needing" a center and 4/5 of them as "needing" a PF. In fact, they list the Cavs' needs as PG, PF and C while the Cavs are desperately trying to add depth to their SG and SF positions. Do these guys watch NBA games? Ya I def remember that b/c I was hoping the Lakers would get him too haha. There were even reports of Kupchak trying to buy a 2nd round pick (which I thought would be used on him) but he supposedly took too long/ the opportunity closed. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On June 23 2017 14:59 MassHysteria wrote: Ya I def remember that b/c I was hoping the Lakers would get him too haha. There were even reports of Kupchak trying to buy a 2nd round pick (which I thought would be used on him) but he supposedly took too long/ the opportunity closed. ESPN is whack | ||
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MassHysteria
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Twinkle Toes
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
On June 23 2017 20:51 Twinkle Toes wrote: I'm still speechless over the Bulls trade. Why oh why? Jimmy B et al ain happy about it - | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/06/22/jimmy-butlers-trainer-calls-bulls-gm-gar-forman-a-liar/ | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On June 23 2017 21:00 Keyboard Warrior wrote: Here's another one i found: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/06/22/jimmy-butlers-trainer-calls-bulls-gm-gar-forman-a-liar/ Thanks for the link. You have to wonder. Boston wasnt able to make a fair offer. They turned down Cavs offer as well. But they traded Butler for this... | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
Professional athletes are in an insecure situation since they are dispensable and could be traded/waived/cut off all the time. The power is always with the owner and the management. Now, this era of Lebron, Durant, CP3 and company, the players are taking control of their business. It might leave a bad taste in the mouth for some, but, and I don;t know if you're old enough to have witnessed it, players, great and loyal ones at that, have suffered horrible embarrassment when owners get rid of them for business reasons. Cases in point, Raptors Hakeem and Sonics Ewing. This is good development that players are starting to manage their careers more closely. I don't like it though when it becomes all about the brand and players become too friendly with each other in the court. Otherwise, there is a valid explanation for this phenomenon. | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
On June 23 2017 21:55 ZenithM wrote: And he brought them a championship too. What a douche. I beg you. OPEN YOUR EYES. It was IRVING who brought them the championship. lbj was ready to surrender in game 5 last year, until irving carried them and went insane for games 5,6, and 7. the same thing happened in miami. wade was reported to scream at him "you will not again cost me this championship" as he disappeared late in 2012. And who could forget how allen handed him his second championship? lbj has got to be the luckiest of all superstars. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
On June 23 2017 22:06 ZenithM wrote: Can't we say both Lebron and Kyrie brought them a championship? I would agree, if lbj showed that he had the courage to win it. he is all party and highlights when they steamroll their opponents, peacocking and highfiving like middle school bullies. but when the game and series is on the line, he bricks his shots, he fails on his responsibilities, and defers to kyrie. i would like to point out duncan manu and tp. yes, you could say duncan was monumental in their championship, but you could make a noncontroversial argument that all three of them won it because all three of them made the effort. the same thing also applies to shaq and kobe. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
On June 23 2017 22:12 Keyboard Warrior wrote: I would agree, if lbj showed that he had the courage to win it. he is all party and highlights when they steamroll their opponents, peacocking and highfiving like middle school bullies. but when the game and series is on the line, he bricks his shots, he fails on his responsibilities, and defers to kyrie. i would like to point out duncan manu and tp. yes, you could say duncan was monumental in their championship, but you could make a noncontroversial argument that all three of them won it because all three of them made the effort. the same thing also applies to shaq and kobe. Yes, but there are better ways to do it than becoming a mercenary and gutting teams in the process | ||
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