Idk. Did the 76ers really have to trade up for Fultz? It's clear the Cs didn't really want him. Were the Cs going to draft him anyway for value? Or did the 76ers not really give anything up of value to move up?

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

June 23 2017 01:43 GMT

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cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 23 2017 02:41 GMT

#132

On June 23 2017 10:12 Twinkle Toes wrote:

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HOLY FUCK! Bulls got fleeced!

GarPax is so incompetent. There is no way Butler is worth 9 slots (and not 10 to 1 mind you, 16 to 7, and you pick the guy who screams bust?!) and Dunn+LaVine. If the Bulls got another 1st with top 10 protection we MIGHT be getting close to a deal id make.

Twinkle Toes

United States3605 Posts

June 23 2017 03:05 GMT

#133

On June 23 2017 10:20 Jerubaal wrote:
Idk. Did the 76ers really have to trade up for Fultz? It's clear the Cs didn't really want him. Were the Cs going to draft him anyway for value? Or did the 76ers not really give anything up of value to move up?

Fultz could provide the crucial piece in the backcourt to finally materialize the process. Boston also could keep collecting assets and hopefully cash them in post Warriors era. Its a kinda low-risk-high-reward for both PHI and BOS, so essentially a win-win.

The Bulls, on the other hand. The Butler trade does not make sense practically, tactically, rationally, astronomically, emotionally, graphically, stoically, geometrically, sarcastically, culinarily, grammatically, tyranically, organically, geriatrically, and not even ironically. I think it is good for Butler and the wolves though.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

June 23 2017 03:25 GMT

#134

OMG the Warriors pick up JOrdan Bell!!

FFS hate them so much (Long Beach kid that can play D..was hoping he would get to LA at 42)

edit:a big that can play D a la D.Green

edit2: bought the pick from the Bulls, of course it was

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

June 23 2017 03:36 GMT

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JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

June 23 2017 03:46 GMT

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MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

June 23 2017 04:27 GMT

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On June 23 2017 12:46 JimmiC wrote:

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With wade picking up his option and them not being a factor this year. They needed the $$$$$ lol

lol apparently! They have like 13% of his salary for the year now.

The Kings actually did pretty good, so weird to say...that said I feel like a lot of teams did good tbh.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

June 23 2017 04:41 GMT

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The Warriors also bought the pick that became Patrick McCaw, who gave them decent minutes this year.

I got a laugh looking at ESPN's list of team needs. They listed the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Rockets and Celtics as "needing" a center and 4/5 of them as "needing" a PF. In fact, they list the Cavs' needs as PG, PF and C while the Cavs are desperately trying to add depth to their SG and SF positions. Do these guys watch NBA games?

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17815 Posts

June 23 2017 04:45 GMT

#139

On June 23 2017 12:05 Twinkle Toes wrote:
The Bulls, on the other hand. The Butler trade does not make sense practically, tactically, rationally, astronomically, emotionally, graphically, stoically, geometrically, sarcastically, culinarily, grammatically, tyranically, organically, geriatrically, and not even ironically. I think it is good for Butler and the wolves though.

my guess is: this is Chicago going into tank mode. They're halfway there now. They'll have a lot of money to spend next year and the next few years.

its a gutsy move by Forman. Barely making the playoffs in the eastern conference is a road to nowhere.

The Butler camp is pissed.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/06/22/jimmy-butlers-trainer-calls-bulls-gm-gar-forman-a-liar/

"0-82.worst culture in the league.I met drug dealers with better morals then their GM. He is a liar and everyone knows"
ouch.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 23 2017 04:54 GMT

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On June 23 2017 12:36 JimmiC wrote:

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It only makes sense if it was the best offer out there and they figure capitalize now while he's worth the most. If Pacers get more for PG then its awful, but they get nothing or dick all it looks better.

I think this looks bad for the celtics. like they couldn't put up a better package then that?

The Celtics are dicking around their fans and the media. Just like the Bulls will be for the next 5 years. If you aren't on my wavelength, let me explain:

The Celtics do not have, and have not had any player that will lead them to an Eastern Conference title. Its not likely that anyone currently on the team will be a top 3-4 player on a potential Celtics title team. The only players they have that are likely to be on such a team are Brown and Tatum. Everyone else on the team is a 0 when it comes to titles, and is only on the team so that Ainge can attempt to trade them for someone who is not mediocre.

The same is true of the Bulls. GarPax will attempt to sell Chicago on LaVine and Dunn and Markkannen, but none of them will be a starter on a future Bulls team that wins the East (maybe Markannen, I dont watch Europe enough).