[QUOTE][B]On July 31 2017 05:24 Jerubaal wrote:[/B] Thanks for the nightmares. [/QUOTE] Did you say nightmares?
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Keyboard Warrior posts stat on game winning/tying final possession scorers vs. passers >link
Keyboard Warrior posts stat proving Kobe is clutch and Lebron is not >link
JimmiC challenges JimmyJRaynor re: Heat >link [Details: JimmiC - Heat is not top 2 in East vs. JimmyJRaynor - Heat is top 2 in East. Loser gets thread banned entire postseason and offseason 2018. JimmyJRaynor hides, avoids the challenge]
xwoGworwaTsx challenges JimmyJRaynor re: analytics >link1 >link2 [Details: xwoGworwaTsx claims JimmyJRaynor is ignorant about sports analytics, challenges him to a debate. JimmyJRaynor mutters a incoherent response, ultimately surrenders in humiliation]
JimmyJRaynor claims to know the reason of Kobe's "shortened career" and landing mechanics after watching a kid's youtube videolink [Details: JimmyJRaynor casually claims Kobe's landing mechanics shortened his career in a discussion about Kobe vs. Lebron clutch. Keyboard Warrior calls him out, linking the youtube video. JimmiC calls him out for using invalid statistics and the length of Kobe's so-called shortened career. JimmyJRaynor doubles down, claims he and his buddies noticed Kobe's wrong landing mechanics long before the video, and is finally caught in a sticky web of inconsistency, stupidity, and lies of his own doing.]
JimmyJRaynor boasts about watching games live in person, boasts further that he gains deep insights from that.link [Details: This exchange you should experience live, on the pages of the NBA Finals 2017 thread >link]
NBA Offseason Schedule
June 22 — NBA Draft June 24 — deadline for RFA player options June 26 — NBA Awards June 29 — deadline for players/team termination options June 30 — deadline for teams to make qualifying offers to players eligible for RFA July 1 — Official start of 2017/18 league year; July moratorium begins. Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams. July 1-17 — NBA Summer League July 6 — July moratorium ends (11:00am CT); teams can begin officially signing players and making trades. July 13 — Last day for teams to unilaterally withdraw qualifying offers to restricted free agents. July 15 — Last day for teams to issue required tenders to unsigned first-round picks; those players become free agents on July 16 if not tendered. August 31 — Last day teams may waive players and apply the stretch provision to their 2017/18 salaries. September 5 — Last day for teams to issue required tenders to unsigned second-round picks; those players become free agents on September 6 if not tendered. Late September (specific dates TBA) — Training camps open.
NBA Draft 2017
NBA Awards 2017
Free Agency
CHI out - Butler / MIN out - Lavine, Dunn, 2017 round pick CP3 to HOU Hayward to BOS PG13 to OKC Me7o to ??? Kyrie to ???
NBA Summer League 2017
Miscellaneous
- Phil Jackson kicked out ot NYK - How will the Cavs adjust to remain competitive vs. GSW next year? - Adjustments for other playoff teams: Spurs? Houston? OKC? Celtics? - Key player acquisitions: Paul George, Chris Paul, Gordon Hayward
I hope to god that PG13 doesn't magically end up on the Cavs (not like their cap space leaves them any flexibility anyways). I'm curious what the Spurs are gonna do in the off season too, seeing as their cap/roster flexibility isn't that great either.
Is Chris Paul a legit full 72 inches tall? cause Lowry ain't no 72 inches tall. i ask these questions because the tendency is that short point guards do not age well. Short being under 6'1".
i'd definitely steer clear of Lowry. I don't know enough about Paul to make a definitive comment. George Hill is the safe bet.
I think the Spurs could do with a ball-dominant PG like CP3. Kawhi is becoming very good at playing off-ball, coming off screens and taking positions for post-ups (honestly his playstyle looks more and more second-3peat-Jordan-esque as time passes). And I feel like CP3 is low maintenance in term of needing the ball at all times, he's clearly alright to let someone like Griffin make plays sometimes, and he's a decent catch&shooter. I could see those 2 playing well together.
I wonder if the master plan for Lebron to get another ring is: get traded, play with a young team for 1 year to groom them (Lakers?), and then opt-out of contract to re-sign with them for a discount and bring in another top free agent. Would that be possible?
Jerry West leaving the Warriors to join the Clippers. Changing of the guard! Haha. I wonder if his championship pedigree is enough to overcome the lingering stink of Donald Sterling.
It's hard for Lebron to overcome the master plan he put in place in Cleveland. In the four years he played in Miami, they had 3 no. 1 overall picks.
Embiid with never be a full time starter capable of playing a full NBA season. His landing mechanics are bad ; changing those mechanics is possible but they are so instinctive that a substantial positive change would require him to put in more work and 24/7 dedication than any other player in the NBA. So I don't see it happening. I see a continued string of injury shortened seasons with limited playing time when he is uninjured.
some injuries are purely accidental. a substantial portion of injuries are not pure accidents.
i dont for 1 second think george will go to the cavs, unless the pacers really cant get anything more than shumpert + channing fyre or something like that
On June 19 2017 12:21 zev318 wrote: i dont for 1 second think george will go to the cavs, unless the pacers really cant get anything more than shumpert + channing fyre or something like that
On June 19 2017 12:21 zev318 wrote: i dont for 1 second think george will go to the cavs, unless the pacers really cant get anything more than shumpert + channing fyre or something like that
Even when considering three-way deals?
well i think the problem is that the cavs just dont have anything to trade tho, picks wise i believe they cant trade a 1st until 2021. and i think the only player they could trade in your scenario that's worth a damn is kevin love, maybe shumpert. i dont think anyone would want to take on JR smith and his contract, esp if the cavs have no picks to send out.
would replacing love with george be enough to beat the warriors?
On June 19 2017 12:21 zev318 wrote: i dont for 1 second think george will go to the cavs, unless the pacers really cant get anything more than shumpert + channing fyre or something like that
Even when considering three-way deals?
well i think the problem is that the cavs just dont have anything to trade tho, picks wise i believe they cant trade a 1st until 2021. and i think the only player they could trade in your scenario that's worth a damn is kevin love, maybe shumpert. i dont think anyone would want to take on JR smith and his contract, esp if the cavs have no picks to send out.
would replacing love with george be enough to beat the warriors?
I think it might be worth considering for them. Currently Love's offensive skills are underused and he's out of his depth defensively. Cleveland is essentially using him as a floor spacer and a decent rebounder and that's it. The piece that the Cavs needs is a guy that can slow down Durant 1-on-1, that isn't Lebron (because Lebron will still have to be the main playmaker all throughout a potential series and will have to save energy to do that). Paul George can be that guy. Plus, he is a decent playmaker which the Cavs need badly. Not to mention, he's a good spot-up shooter too.
I don't think this is what brings the Cavs above the Warriors, but it gets closer than with Love imo. I think other teams would also really like Love because I find him underrated (as I said in another thread, he's not used well in the Cavs offense).
A Cavs with PG would allow James to stay on Draymond again and play center-field/safety/libero which he's elite at. There are few pieces in the NBA that the Cavs can switch with Love that improve their chances, most of them are untradable (like Davis and Kawhi :D), but PG is a top choice, and wants out anyway. If the Cavs can do it they will.
On June 19 2017 12:21 zev318 wrote: i dont for 1 second think george will go to the cavs, unless the pacers really cant get anything more than shumpert + channing fyre or something like that
Even when considering three-way deals?
well i think the problem is that the cavs just dont have anything to trade tho, picks wise i believe they cant trade a 1st until 2021. and i think the only player they could trade in your scenario that's worth a damn is kevin love, maybe shumpert. i dont think anyone would want to take on JR smith and his contract, esp if the cavs have no picks to send out.
would replacing love with george be enough to beat the warriors?
I think it might be worth considering for them. Currently Love's offensive skills are underused and he's out of his depth defensively. Cleveland is essentially using him as a floor spacer and a decent rebounder and that's it. The piece that the Cavs needs is a guy that can slow down Durant 1-on-1, that isn't Lebron (because Lebron will still have to be the main playmaker all throughout a potential series and will have to save energy to do that). Paul George can be that guy. Plus, he is a decent playmaker which the Cavs need badly. Not to mention, he's a good spot-up shooter too.
I don't think this is what brings the Cavs above the Warriors, but it gets closer than with Love imo. I think other teams would also really like Love because I find him underrated (as I said in another thread, he's not used well in the Cavs offense).
A Cavs with PG would allow James to stay on Draymond again and play center-field/safety/libero which he's elite at. There are few pieces in the NBA that the Cavs can switch with Love that improve their chances, most of them are untradable (like Davis and Kawhi :D), but PG is a top choice, and wants out anyway. If the Cavs can do it they will.
theyd have to get a massive guarantee (like signing a letter with his blood and shit) with PG that he'll resign tho.
I actually think they would be okay with just having him 1 year. Because Lebron. Lebron wants to defeat GWS now because he knows he's declining and his chances will only get worse anyway. Might even just leave the Cavs at the same time as PG (if that was the deal but I don't think it will happen).
All the rumors that are going around the Celtics are just wild :D.