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mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
April 11 2017 00:46 GMT
#4181
How do you guys feel about James Zidane situation? In Colombia everyone hates Zidane and we feel cheated. But obviously big biased

Do you guys feel James isn't good enough to be starting every game? Or is Zidane is not taking advantage of him and is depreciating him?

It affects. Colombia big time not having a James with continuety and fit for the WC classifier games
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
April 11 2017 00:51 GMT
#4182
At this point I kinda feel sad for Wenger lol
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 11 2017 00:56 GMT
#4183
On April 11 2017 07:37 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 05:32 Pandemona wrote:
Remember when Arsenal were a good team :D

well Palace did whoop Chelski's butt on Stamford Bridge no so long ago

as an United fan I couldn't be happier when Arsenal dropped the ball this time


We didn't get whooped though. We could leave the game knowing we tried, could deserve a point, but palace defending was outstanding that day. No shame in our performance.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 11 2017 01:25 GMT
#4184
It's pretty safe bet that Wenger has already signed a 2 year contract. If he wasn't staying he/the board would have said something by now.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 11 2017 01:39 GMT
#4185
On April 11 2017 09:46 mAKiTO wrote:
How do you guys feel about James Zidane situation? In Colombia everyone hates Zidane and we feel cheated. But obviously big biased

Do you guys feel James isn't good enough to be starting every game? Or is Zidane is not taking advantage of him and is depreciating him?

It affects. Colombia big time not having a James with continuety and fit for the WC classifier games

You shouldn't be angry at Zidane, Ancelotti benched James just the same. He just doesn't fit the system. How do you field him + BBC? Modric and Kroos are better at tracking back. Isco's case is very similar but it looks like he's making more efforts so he get more play time. James should go to a club where he'd be the boss in the midfield or as a 10 with people behind him to run for him.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 11 2017 01:51 GMT
#4186
On April 11 2017 09:56 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 07:37 nayumi wrote:
On April 11 2017 05:32 Pandemona wrote:
Remember when Arsenal were a good team :D

well Palace did whoop Chelski's butt on Stamford Bridge no so long ago

as an United fan I couldn't be happier when Arsenal dropped the ball this time


We didn't get whooped though. We could leave the game knowing we tried, could deserve a point, but palace defending was outstanding that day. No shame in our performance.

yea i was just saying that to fuck with Pande

on the James' matter at Madrid, to be it's less of whether he's not good enough, but more of Zidane not wanting to change the existing formula which seems to work well thus far.. i think James' skill set will be a better fit somewhere else...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 11 2017 01:55 GMT
#4187
On Monday afternoon, 102 stories above lower Manhattan, North American soccer authorities will reach for the stars.

In a long-anticipated announcement, the presidents of the U.S., Mexican and Canadian federations will gather atop One World Trade Center to declare their intention to submit a joint bid to stage the 2026 World Cup.

Only once have multiple countries shared the quadrennial festival, and Japan and South Korea did so in 2002 under an 11th-hour agreement approved by FIFA, the sport’s international governing body.

The three neighboring nations seeking the ’26 tournament — let’s call it the NAFTA World Cup — will pursue the event in the spirit of cooperation and regional brotherhood in a time of tightening borders and frayed diplomacy.

If successful, the most popular sporting event on the planet would return to the United States for the first time since record-setting crowds witnessed the competition in 1994. It would mark the return to Mexico after 40 years and the first plunge into Canada, which successfully ran the 2015 Women’s World Cup and an under-20 men’s World Cup.

The United States sought the 2022 World Cup by itself, but amid FIFA’s corruption scandal, lost out to Qatar, the tiny-but-wealthy Middle Eastern bidder.

FIFA will not select the 2026 site — or, perhaps in this case, sites — until May 2020, but the North American tri-bid will enter the race as the clear favorite.

Europe and Asia are prohibited from hosting because they will have staged the previous two tournaments (Russia 2018, Qatar 2022), a restriction removing potential formidable bids from England and China, among others, from the mix.

South America held the World Cup in 2014 (Brazil), and no African countries have indicated plans to bid.

With an abundance of venues and a history of hosting large-scale sporting events, the United States could pull it off on its own — even one that will expand to 48 teams (from 32) in 2026 and require 80 matches instead of 64 over four to five weeks.

U.S. officials have suggested strengthening the bid by locking arms with Mexico and Canada. Such an effort would also head off any potential showdown with a solo Mexican bid. (Mexico hosted the World Cup in 1970 and ’86.)

The European Championship, second to the World Cup in popularity, has had multiple hosts three times, albeit in small, neighboring countries: Belgium-Netherlands in 2000, Austria-Switzerland in ’08 and Ukraine-Poland in 2012. The 2020 tournament will span the continent, using 13 cities in 13 countries.

The joint 2002 World Cup created logistical headaches, prompting FIFA to question whether to consider multiple hosts again.

While on the surface, the three-nation World Cup bid would meet FIFA’s facility and infrastructure needs, organizers will have to address many issues.

Would the countries agree to divide the locations of premier matches? Perhaps a U.S.-Mexico tug of war over the final at Los Angeles’s new NFL stadium or Mexico City’s Azteca Stadium, which has hosted two World Cup title games?

Would the United States carry a larger share of the budgetary burden proportioned to the presumed greater number of games?

Would FIFA be willing to award three automatic berths, including one to Canada, which in all likelihood, will not have qualified for the tournament since 1986? That would leave only half of the six proposed automatic slots for CONCACAF (which incorporates North and Central America and the Caribbean) available to the others.

Canada has desirable cities, but only one major location (Toronto’s MLS stadium) sports natural grass. Use of artificial turf for all Women’s World Cup matches there two years ago did not sit well with the players. Such turf has never been used in a men’s World Cup.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18593 Posts
April 11 2017 04:14 GMT
#4188
I am still hoping Arsenal will be the one club where they keep the manager but get rid a lot of the players
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8812 Posts
April 11 2017 09:49 GMT
#4189
i can easily see ozil and sanchez leaving arsenal when their contracts are up. tbh even after all this i just dont think wenger will leave
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 11 2017 10:14 GMT
#4190
Wonder if I would take any arsenal players to Chelsea. Think ox could do good at rwb. Doubt ozil fits our system. Sanchez would be an upgrade to willian though, but not sure if he's a better fit than Pedro.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2017 10:16 GMT
#4191
The world cup in Canada Mexico and USA is kinda weird for me, that is like a huge ass area and can be fucked for teams playing in no if you have a game in Mexico then one in Canada, that's like a 6 hour flight? xD

Zidane x James situation is a weird one, James looked a bit over rated since his Brazil world cup days, maybe that is a bit harsh though due to he hasn't really played much right? Interesting one, he has to leave this summer though and prove to the world he is still as good as that world cup in Brazil!

Lol arsenal :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2017 10:17 GMT
#4192
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2017 10:19 GMT
#4193
On April 11 2017 19:14 DucK- wrote:
Wonder if I would take any arsenal players to Chelsea. Think ox could do good at rwb. Doubt ozil fits our system. Sanchez would be an upgrade to willian though, but not sure if he's a better fit than Pedro.

Ox be nice as a work horse to have i think and he is English and young, pretty sure Conte could coach alot of good into him. Then Sanchez i think be the one who be nice addition to working hard in the squad too if he wanted to come.
Ozil is not needed as we have Cesc who i think is a better version for our system.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 11 2017 12:41 GMT
#4194
I'm not feeling it for Barça tonight
The 6-1 against Paris reminds me of the 4-0 against Milan, followed by more disappointment. Let's hope I'm wrong.

The other game is going to be a goal fest, no idea who'll win xD

Juve 2-1 Barça
Dortmund 3-2 Monaco
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-11 13:13:07
April 11 2017 13:07 GMT
#4195
On April 11 2017 19:16 Pandemona wrote:
The world cup in Canada Mexico and USA is kinda weird for me, that is like a huge ass area and can be fucked for teams playing in no if you have a game in Mexico then one in Canada, that's like a 6 hour flight? xD

Zidane x James situation is a weird one, James looked a bit over rated since his Brazil world cup days, maybe that is a bit harsh though due to he hasn't really played much right? Interesting one, he has to leave this summer though and prove to the world he is still as good as that world cup in Brazil!

Lol arsenal :D

As the plan is to apparently have 10 matches in mexico and canada each, with the remaining 60 in the USA, and a ro16 game in mexico as the last match there, it should be easily possible to have a clever schedule that minimises travel. Like, you can make 3 west-coast groups (vancouver, seattle, LA, san francisco), 3 southern groups (dallas, mexico city, guadalajara, monterrey), and the remainder spread over the US east and toronto/montreal. Then for the knockout stage, leave teams in the south/west or in the east until the final. That's roughly what they did in 1994.

In 2002 groups were all-japan or all-south korea, and again, one half of the knockout stage bracket was held in each country.

On April 11 2017 10:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
On Monday afternoon, 102 stories above lower Manhattan, North American soccer authorities will reach for the stars.

In a long-anticipated announcement, the presidents of the U.S., Mexican and Canadian federations will gather atop One World Trade Center to declare their intention to submit a joint bid to stage the 2026 World Cup.

Only once have multiple countries shared the quadrennial festival, and Japan and South Korea did so in 2002 under an 11th-hour agreement approved by FIFA, the sport’s international governing body.

The three neighboring nations seeking the ’26 tournament — let’s call it the NAFTA World Cup — will pursue the event in the spirit of cooperation and regional brotherhood in a time of tightening borders and frayed diplomacy.

If successful, the most popular sporting event on the planet would return to the United States for the first time since record-setting crowds witnessed the competition in 1994. It would mark the return to Mexico after 40 years and the first plunge into Canada, which successfully ran the 2015 Women’s World Cup and an under-20 men’s World Cup.

The United States sought the 2022 World Cup by itself, but amid FIFA’s corruption scandal, lost out to Qatar, the tiny-but-wealthy Middle Eastern bidder.

FIFA will not select the 2026 site — or, perhaps in this case, sites — until May 2020, but the North American tri-bid will enter the race as the clear favorite.

Europe and Asia are prohibited from hosting because they will have staged the previous two tournaments (Russia 2018, Qatar 2022), a restriction removing potential formidable bids from England and China, among others, from the mix.

South America held the World Cup in 2014 (Brazil), and no African countries have indicated plans to bid.

With an abundance of venues and a history of hosting large-scale sporting events, the United States could pull it off on its own — even one that will expand to 48 teams (from 32) in 2026 and require 80 matches instead of 64 over four to five weeks.

U.S. officials have suggested strengthening the bid by locking arms with Mexico and Canada. Such an effort would also head off any potential showdown with a solo Mexican bid. (Mexico hosted the World Cup in 1970 and ’86.)

The European Championship, second to the World Cup in popularity, has had multiple hosts three times, albeit in small, neighboring countries: Belgium-Netherlands in 2000, Austria-Switzerland in ’08 and Ukraine-Poland in 2012. The 2020 tournament will span the continent, using 13 cities in 13 countries.

The joint 2002 World Cup created logistical headaches, prompting FIFA to question whether to consider multiple hosts again.

While on the surface, the three-nation World Cup bid would meet FIFA’s facility and infrastructure needs, organizers will have to address many issues.

Would the countries agree to divide the locations of premier matches? Perhaps a U.S.-Mexico tug of war over the final at Los Angeles’s new NFL stadium or Mexico City’s Azteca Stadium, which has hosted two World Cup title games?

Would the United States carry a larger share of the budgetary burden proportioned to the presumed greater number of games?

Would FIFA be willing to award three automatic berths, including one to Canada, which in all likelihood, will not have qualified for the tournament since 1986? That would leave only half of the six proposed automatic slots for CONCACAF (which incorporates North and Central America and the Caribbean) available to the others.

Canada has desirable cities, but only one major location (Toronto’s MLS stadium) sports natural grass. Use of artificial turf for all Women’s World Cup matches there two years ago did not sit well with the players. Such turf has never been used in a men’s World Cup.


Source

Basically most of the questions/issues this piece of journalism brings up are apparently already answered:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/11/usa-mexico-canada-world-cup-2026-bid
Except for the automatic qualifiers.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 11 2017 14:03 GMT
#4196
somehow unreal that Ronaldo only scored 2 goals this CL season.
Shots: 1st Ronaldo (44), 2nd Lewandowski (35), 3rd Messi (28)
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 11 2017 14:52 GMT
#4197
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#4198
On April 11 2017 22:07 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 19:16 Pandemona wrote:
The world cup in Canada Mexico and USA is kinda weird for me, that is like a huge ass area and can be fucked for teams playing in no if you have a game in Mexico then one in Canada, that's like a 6 hour flight? xD

Zidane x James situation is a weird one, James looked a bit over rated since his Brazil world cup days, maybe that is a bit harsh though due to he hasn't really played much right? Interesting one, he has to leave this summer though and prove to the world he is still as good as that world cup in Brazil!

Lol arsenal :D

As the plan is to apparently have 10 matches in mexico and canada each, with the remaining 60 in the USA, and a ro16 game in mexico as the last match there, it should be easily possible to have a clever schedule that minimises travel. Like, you can make 3 west-coast groups (vancouver, seattle, LA, san francisco), 3 southern groups (dallas, mexico city, guadalajara, monterrey), and the remainder spread over the US east and toronto/montreal. Then for the knockout stage, leave teams in the south/west or in the east until the final. That's roughly what they did in 1994.

In 2002 groups were all-japan or all-south korea, and again, one half of the knockout stage bracket was held in each country.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 10:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On Monday afternoon, 102 stories above lower Manhattan, North American soccer authorities will reach for the stars.

In a long-anticipated announcement, the presidents of the U.S., Mexican and Canadian federations will gather atop One World Trade Center to declare their intention to submit a joint bid to stage the 2026 World Cup.

Only once have multiple countries shared the quadrennial festival, and Japan and South Korea did so in 2002 under an 11th-hour agreement approved by FIFA, the sport’s international governing body.

The three neighboring nations seeking the ’26 tournament — let’s call it the NAFTA World Cup — will pursue the event in the spirit of cooperation and regional brotherhood in a time of tightening borders and frayed diplomacy.

If successful, the most popular sporting event on the planet would return to the United States for the first time since record-setting crowds witnessed the competition in 1994. It would mark the return to Mexico after 40 years and the first plunge into Canada, which successfully ran the 2015 Women’s World Cup and an under-20 men’s World Cup.

The United States sought the 2022 World Cup by itself, but amid FIFA’s corruption scandal, lost out to Qatar, the tiny-but-wealthy Middle Eastern bidder.

FIFA will not select the 2026 site — or, perhaps in this case, sites — until May 2020, but the North American tri-bid will enter the race as the clear favorite.

Europe and Asia are prohibited from hosting because they will have staged the previous two tournaments (Russia 2018, Qatar 2022), a restriction removing potential formidable bids from England and China, among others, from the mix.

South America held the World Cup in 2014 (Brazil), and no African countries have indicated plans to bid.

With an abundance of venues and a history of hosting large-scale sporting events, the United States could pull it off on its own — even one that will expand to 48 teams (from 32) in 2026 and require 80 matches instead of 64 over four to five weeks.

U.S. officials have suggested strengthening the bid by locking arms with Mexico and Canada. Such an effort would also head off any potential showdown with a solo Mexican bid. (Mexico hosted the World Cup in 1970 and ’86.)

The European Championship, second to the World Cup in popularity, has had multiple hosts three times, albeit in small, neighboring countries: Belgium-Netherlands in 2000, Austria-Switzerland in ’08 and Ukraine-Poland in 2012. The 2020 tournament will span the continent, using 13 cities in 13 countries.

The joint 2002 World Cup created logistical headaches, prompting FIFA to question whether to consider multiple hosts again.

While on the surface, the three-nation World Cup bid would meet FIFA’s facility and infrastructure needs, organizers will have to address many issues.

Would the countries agree to divide the locations of premier matches? Perhaps a U.S.-Mexico tug of war over the final at Los Angeles’s new NFL stadium or Mexico City’s Azteca Stadium, which has hosted two World Cup title games?

Would the United States carry a larger share of the budgetary burden proportioned to the presumed greater number of games?

Would FIFA be willing to award three automatic berths, including one to Canada, which in all likelihood, will not have qualified for the tournament since 1986? That would leave only half of the six proposed automatic slots for CONCACAF (which incorporates North and Central America and the Caribbean) available to the others.

Canada has desirable cities, but only one major location (Toronto’s MLS stadium) sports natural grass. Use of artificial turf for all Women’s World Cup matches there two years ago did not sit well with the players. Such turf has never been used in a men’s World Cup.


Source

Basically most of the questions/issues this piece of journalism brings up are apparently already answered:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/11/usa-mexico-canada-world-cup-2026-bid
Except for the automatic qualifiers.

Not to bad then, i dont mind if it logistically is done properly like that where everything is close and no one is fucked. However you can still kinda get fucked if your playing group stage down south in Meixco then you gotta play in Vancouver in first knock out round right? Still as long as they try and keep all groups to south then ok.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-11 18:10:39
April 11 2017 18:07 GMT
#4199
Holy shit, Dortmund bus suffered an accident 10km away from the Signal Iduna and Marc Bartra is injured

I dont know if the blast came from the bus or affected the bus tho

Blast confirmed NEAR the bus and it wasnt the bus

Marc Bartra got injured from the blast that broke some glasses, hospital but out of danger
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 11 2017 18:11 GMT
#4200
3 explosives exploded near the bus according to police (according to dpa :D)

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