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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18426 Posts
April 09 2017 08:23 GMT
#4141
On April 09 2017 05:36 Pr0wler wrote:
Malaga saved the day ! Good job.


Yay, this means that real gained one point instead of losing one!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 09 2017 09:16 GMT
#4142
On April 09 2017 17:23 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 05:36 Pr0wler wrote:
Malaga saved the day ! Good job.


Yay, this means that real gained one point instead of losing one!

To be fair, Real won two Championss League with this result after 90 minutes against that opponent.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 09 2017 13:11 GMT
#4143
On April 09 2017 17:17 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 16:53 Greg_J wrote:
How does that even happen? Win a lot of games by a small margin and take a few spankings I guess.


In the entire season they had:
- 1 win with +4
- 3 wins with +2
- 10 wins with +1
- 8 draws
- 5 losses by -1
- 2 losses by -2
- 1 loss by -3
- 2 losses by -4
- 1 loss by -5
- 1 loss by -6

So yes, winning small and losing big was certainly their theme.

Combine this with the fact that even 7th place is only 1 win behind them at this playday... Even 13th is only 3 wins away. Not sure in how many seasons 10w, 7d, 5l would be enough to be 1st place... (under the 3 point system this would be even less likely and they would have been 3rd place here)
Sounds like a crazy season. I'm glad 3 points for a win was introduced. I have no stats but there must be less draws since.

Zlatan has realy impressed me. I was very much in the camp of he's too old and won't cut it in the Premier League. I have to admit both him and Rafa Benítez I have been wrong about this year.

This weekend might have been cruical for La Liga.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
April 09 2017 13:21 GMT
#4144
you mentioning Rafa made me check out the championship table, and that's also relevant. Reading is currently in 4th with 22 wins 12 losses - but -1 GD.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 09 2017 13:28 GMT
#4145
The reason for reading being - is cuz they just lost 7-1 away to Norwich xd
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
April 09 2017 15:05 GMT
#4146
Everton Leicester 1-1 after 4 minutes.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 09 2017 15:20 GMT
#4147
On April 09 2017 22:28 Pandemona wrote:
The reason for reading being - is cuz they just lost 7-1 away to Norwich xd
It's worth pointing out the halftime score 6-1. Second Half was relatively boring ㅋㅋ
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
April 09 2017 15:25 GMT
#4148
Also worth pointing out that Everton-Leicester is now 2-2 after 22 minutes! This be fun!
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
April 09 2017 17:01 GMT
#4149
Yeah that game was no defense on show xd
3-2 Everton after 40. Then finish 4-2 Everton. Leicester 5 game win streak? or 6 is over. They did rest a few players (or injured?) before the Atletico game
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6223 Posts
April 09 2017 18:05 GMT
#4150
Title race is The Netherlands is wide open again. 3 games ago Feyenoord had a 6 point lead. Then they got completely outplayed by Ajax and lost 2-1. They won the next game 8-0 against Go Ahead Eagles but they drew against Pec Zwolle today. Meanwhile Ajax won all their games and the difference is 1 point and 11 goal difference in Feyenoords favour.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
April 09 2017 18:29 GMT
#4151
aw, poor Go Ahead Eagles, looks like they're gonna be relegated. I've always had a soft spot for teams with cool names. Go Excelsior now I guess? :D
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
April 09 2017 22:41 GMT
#4152
On April 10 2017 03:29 Liquid`Drone wrote:
aw, poor Go Ahead Eagles, looks like they're gonna be relegated. I've always had a soft spot for teams with cool names. Go Excelsior now I guess? :D

I was devastated when Germinal Beerschot was dissolved in 2013. Every year I also pay close attention to the temperament derby - Nice vs Angers.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 10 2017 00:10 GMT
#4153
BBC are joing in the Alli conversation
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 10 2017 01:43 GMT
#4154
On April 09 2017 22:11 Greg_J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 17:17 mahrgell wrote:
On April 09 2017 16:53 Greg_J wrote:
How does that even happen? Win a lot of games by a small margin and take a few spankings I guess.


In the entire season they had:
- 1 win with +4
- 3 wins with +2
- 10 wins with +1
- 8 draws
- 5 losses by -1
- 2 losses by -2
- 1 loss by -3
- 2 losses by -4
- 1 loss by -5
- 1 loss by -6

So yes, winning small and losing big was certainly their theme.

Combine this with the fact that even 7th place is only 1 win behind them at this playday... Even 13th is only 3 wins away. Not sure in how many seasons 10w, 7d, 5l would be enough to be 1st place... (under the 3 point system this would be even less likely and they would have been 3rd place here)
Sounds like a crazy season. I'm glad 3 points for a win was introduced. I have no stats but there must be less draws since.

Zlatan has realy impressed me. I was very much in the camp of he's too old and won't cut it in the Premier League. I have to admit both him and Rafa Benítez I have been wrong about this year.

This weekend might have been cruical for La Liga.

I think Zlatan is both the savior as well as the bane to United's success.

As much as I appreciate what he's done for the club, I personally hope he'll leave by the end of this season. It's for the betterment of the club as a whole. Our results have pretty much aligned with Ibrahimovic's performance, which if you ask me, is a horrible way to move forward. Take Tottenham as an example, despite Kane being a scoring machine as he is, he's been pretty much out on injury for a better half of the season (to date at least). Still they somehow managed to find their own way to the back of the net with Son, Alli, and Erikssen to a certain extent stepping up with goal after goal. United needs something like that to be able to compete with other top 4 contenders, let alone the championship. And we'll never be able to do that with Zlatan around because the team has to play around him too much. I'm not saying that without Zlatan, the like of Rashford or Martial would be consistently netting 20+ goals per season. But I'm pretty certain that with Zlatan, no one else will be able to.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8680 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 06:15:54
April 10 2017 06:14 GMT
#4155
On April 10 2017 10:43 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 22:11 Greg_J wrote:
On April 09 2017 17:17 mahrgell wrote:
On April 09 2017 16:53 Greg_J wrote:
How does that even happen? Win a lot of games by a small margin and take a few spankings I guess.


In the entire season they had:
- 1 win with +4
- 3 wins with +2
- 10 wins with +1
- 8 draws
- 5 losses by -1
- 2 losses by -2
- 1 loss by -3
- 2 losses by -4
- 1 loss by -5
- 1 loss by -6

So yes, winning small and losing big was certainly their theme.

Combine this with the fact that even 7th place is only 1 win behind them at this playday... Even 13th is only 3 wins away. Not sure in how many seasons 10w, 7d, 5l would be enough to be 1st place... (under the 3 point system this would be even less likely and they would have been 3rd place here)
Sounds like a crazy season. I'm glad 3 points for a win was introduced. I have no stats but there must be less draws since.

Zlatan has realy impressed me. I was very much in the camp of he's too old and won't cut it in the Premier League. I have to admit both him and Rafa Benítez I have been wrong about this year.

This weekend might have been cruical for La Liga.

I think Zlatan is both the savior as well as the bane to United's success.

As much as I appreciate what he's done for the club, I personally hope he'll leave by the end of this season. It's for the betterment of the club as a whole. Our results have pretty much aligned with Ibrahimovic's performance, which if you ask me, is a horrible way to move forward. Take Tottenham as an example, despite Kane being a scoring machine as he is, he's been pretty much out on injury for a better half of the season (to date at least). Still they somehow managed to find their own way to the back of the net with Son, Alli, and Erikssen to a certain extent stepping up with goal after goal. United needs something like that to be able to compete with other top 4 contenders, let alone the championship. And we'll never be able to do that with Zlatan around because the team has to play around him too much. I'm not saying that without Zlatan, the like of Rashford or Martial would be consistently netting 20+ goals per season. But I'm pretty certain that with Zlatan, no one else will be able to.

im of the opinion that zlatan should stay until his standard drops to a point where hes actually just not good enough. i dont think theres anyone who could actually replace the void left by him at the moment; martial and rashford clearly arent ready to lead our attack every game and rooney hasnt even been a shadow of his former self, and theres no one in the market who would fit really well and would also be able to move immediately.
while true that the team does play around the pogba/zlatan duo, this is true for every team with star players. tbh our current predicament is due to the massive amount of easy chances that players (zlatan included) have missed, not because we are too reliant on zlatan to put every one of his chances away.
pogba, mkhi, rashford, mata, martial could all have at least 5 more goals each if they had put some of the chances they had away and zlatan could also easily by top scorer already. of course you could say this for a lot of players on a lot of teams, but my point is goal scoring in man utd isnt the sole burden of zlatan. many other players get a number of good chances, they just havent been good enough to put them away when we needed it.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1949 Posts
April 10 2017 09:34 GMT
#4156
On April 10 2017 10:43 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 22:11 Greg_J wrote:
On April 09 2017 17:17 mahrgell wrote:
On April 09 2017 16:53 Greg_J wrote:
How does that even happen? Win a lot of games by a small margin and take a few spankings I guess.


In the entire season they had:
- 1 win with +4
- 3 wins with +2
- 10 wins with +1
- 8 draws
- 5 losses by -1
- 2 losses by -2
- 1 loss by -3
- 2 losses by -4
- 1 loss by -5
- 1 loss by -6

So yes, winning small and losing big was certainly their theme.

Combine this with the fact that even 7th place is only 1 win behind them at this playday... Even 13th is only 3 wins away. Not sure in how many seasons 10w, 7d, 5l would be enough to be 1st place... (under the 3 point system this would be even less likely and they would have been 3rd place here)
Sounds like a crazy season. I'm glad 3 points for a win was introduced. I have no stats but there must be less draws since.

Zlatan has realy impressed me. I was very much in the camp of he's too old and won't cut it in the Premier League. I have to admit both him and Rafa Benítez I have been wrong about this year.

This weekend might have been cruical for La Liga.

I think Zlatan is both the savior as well as the bane to United's success.

As much as I appreciate what he's done for the club, I personally hope he'll leave by the end of this season. It's for the betterment of the club as a whole. Our results have pretty much aligned with Ibrahimovic's performance, which if you ask me, is a horrible way to move forward. Take Tottenham as an example, despite Kane being a scoring machine as he is, he's been pretty much out on injury for a better half of the season (to date at least). Still they somehow managed to find their own way to the back of the net with Son, Alli, and Erikssen to a certain extent stepping up with goal after goal. United needs something like that to be able to compete with other top 4 contenders, let alone the championship. And we'll never be able to do that with Zlatan around because the team has to play around him too much. I'm not saying that without Zlatan, the like of Rashford or Martial would be consistently netting 20+ goals per season. But I'm pretty certain that with Zlatan, no one else will be able to.


Yeah. Also, I think Pool and City have pretty clear ways to strengthen their game next season and Tottenham has been a bit unfortunate with Kane's injuries too. They all have good chances of being stronger next season. Meanwhile where is ManU going to go with the present system? Are they hoping that Pogba and Mkhitaryan improve and Zlatan can somehow keep defying the odds for one more season?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 09:52:39
April 10 2017 09:48 GMT
#4157
I want Yanited to buy Harry Kane for £100million. Mostly due to it kills off shitty Spurs, plus then Yanited have a goal scoring premier league striker. Should be good fit all round as i don't see Lukaku going to Yanited so that would mean Kane is the best suited left in the picks.
We all know Yanited going to blast alot of money again and Mourinho always goes with trusted players who can do the job in which we know Kane can do this in the premier league. Spurs with new stadium being built wont be able to refuse the big numbers again and maybe Kane will get turned who knows.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 10:13:01
April 10 2017 10:12 GMT
#4158
On April 10 2017 18:48 Pandemona wrote:
I want Yanited to buy Harry Kane for £100million. Mostly due to it kills off shitty Spurs, plus then Yanited have a goal scoring premier league striker. Should be good fit all round as i don't see Lukaku going to Yanited so that would mean Kane is the best suited left in the picks.
We all know Yanited going to blast alot of money again and Mourinho always goes with trusted players who can do the job in which we know Kane can do this in the premier league. Spurs with new stadium being built wont be able to refuse the big numbers again and maybe Kane will get turned who knows.

Griezmann has been rumored to either ManU or Chelsea. I've got the feeling that Kane is quite happy in Tottenham, but who knows if that even matters.

I'm not sure if ManU has anything else to offer than extra cash for them compared to their present teams though. They may not be playing UCL next season and not necessarily considered title favourites either. Maybe Griezmann wants to try playing PL, but he has probably got some decent options outside ManU too.

The team is obviously iconic, but at the same time they're running something like 4th mediocre season in a row now and I don't think Mou's star is shining as bright as it did a few seasons ago either. I guess it has to be the money talking.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 10:23:10
April 10 2017 10:22 GMT
#4159
Yeah of course right now you would think why would he go to Yanited? But club prestige and the fact Mourinho will bring the back challenging at the top. Spurs are a signing away from being back to average again, just like Everton going to struggle when Lukaku goes in the summer as well.

Pochenttino as well is going to be favorite for any next top job position that is open in the world of football soon due to what he has done. Real Madrid / City / Yanited / PSG wil all through some money at him and will he stay at Spurs? He supposedly has rejected the Barcelona job citing that he is Espanyol through and through which is fair enough but i don't think he would reject Real Madrid if they came calling.

But back to the players i can really see Yanited throwing money at Kane as he is a Mourinho style striker for sure, big tall guy, pace and strength to hold the ball up. Greizmann like you say is incoming probably to Yanited but he aint no striker in England, he is just a solid attacking winger.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 10 2017 10:27 GMT
#4160
Just out of curiosity Pande, why the Spurs hate? I mean I would have understood if you were a Gunner but you're not :D
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