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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
June 29 2016 10:17 GMT
#561
Awesome. Was about to ask if there was a way to watch. Definitely will do! (I'm sure others from our club will too - surprised no one's posted game links.)
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-29 13:04:36
June 29 2016 12:48 GMT
#562
On June 29 2016 18:05 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2016 13:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The guy who invented the 46 defense is dead. imagine that.. 4 linemen.. 6 linebackers and a safety LOL

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4702979/buddy-ryans-defensive-legacy-looms-large-over-chicago


It's not a 4-6 defense, it's a front run with 4-3 personnel. "46" was named after #46 Doug Plank (Bears SS at the time).

DL shifts to the weak side and 2 LBs come down to the strong side (ends up being a 6 man front) with SS coming down inside the box (behind the DL) and the 3rd LB is behind the other 2. (Under normal naming conventions it would look like a 6-2.)


i guess the plays i saw in the 1985 Bears highlights were not the 46. what i saw was every player on Chicago within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. i thought "i guess thats a 46"... the whole fucking team is on the line of scrimmage. the only thing i knew about the 46 came from the 1985 Bears Super Bowl run.

these were normal 1st and 10 plays in the middle of the game in the middle of the field. And the Bears had everyone on the field close enough to spit on the QB. lol.

technically, i think what i was looking at in those '85 Bears highlights was a 7-2 with no safeties. and the 46 has a safety.

the Bears didn't have a #46 on their team in 1985.. so i never made the connection.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
June 29 2016 13:35 GMT
#563
I wouldn't be surprised if their adjustment to 22 personnel (2te, 2rb, 1 wr) was to have the CB and FS come up in the box. Otherwise they could have had some sort of FS blitz or cover 0 play call.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 13:57:38
June 29 2016 15:12 GMT
#564
i remember Madden specifically saying "they didn't have either safety on the field".

the Rams QB threw a pass less than 10 yards that went incomplete and the play-by-play commentator said "if he catches that pass he's gone.. that's a TD" ... what a laugh. i'll see if i can find it on youtube again.

thinking about it more carefully.. there is no way that was the Bears standard defense.

EDIT: i found it.
+ Show Spoiler +



the commentator actually said "they had a bundle if they complete that one". i remember watching the replay thinking...that is a TD if the QB throws ahead of him properly.

The Rams QB is short.

In conclusion, the Bears defense may have been unusual even bordering on bizarre, but it sure did work. This 1985 Bears defense is considered one of the best of all time.

On June 29 2016 18:05 y0su wrote:
It's not a 4-6 defense, it's a front run with 4-3 personnel. DL shifts to the weak side and 2 LBs come down to the strong side (ends up being a 6 man front) with SS coming down inside the box (behind the DL) and the 3rd LB is behind the other 2. (Under normal naming conventions it would look like a 6-2.)

yep, that is dead bang on correct. the Bears standard defense did exactly that in 1985. i watched a bunch of 1985 Bears games a few years ago and my impressionistic memory of it was "ya man, that 46 defense is where your whole damn team stands on the line of scrimmage"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
June 29 2016 22:24 GMT
#565
espn.go.com
Sources told ESPN that Luck is guaranteed $87 million with this extension. The previous most-guaranteed money for any NFL player was $65 million for both Eli Manning of the New York Giants and Philip Rivers of the San Diego Chargers.

$140 million over 6 years. That's a lot of dough for a guy that just had a pretty bad season, I honestly thought there would be a lot less guaranteed.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
June 29 2016 22:37 GMT
#566
Luck may have had a rough season but he still shows most of the signs of a stable franchise qb methinks.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51584 Posts
July 01 2016 02:38 GMT
#567
The Amazon documentary All or Nothing on the Cardinals is out.
I got myself on the 30 day Prime Trial just to watch it.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
July 15 2016 17:54 GMT
#568
Tom Brady fought the law

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/17083595/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-appeal-suspension-supreme-court

and the law won.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 15 2016 18:01 GMT
#569
Can't wait till the Rog sets his sites on a non patriots player so everyone realizes how retarded his being able to suspend someone 4 games for not liking them is
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:23:07
July 15 2016 18:09 GMT
#570
On July 16 2016 03:01 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Can't wait till the Rog sets his sites on a non patriots player so everyone realizes how retarded his being able to suspend someone 4 games for not liking them is


At the start of this whole mess I stated Brady should throw himself at the mercy of the NFL. provide a complete mea culpa and NEGOTIATE with the commish. He should've given up his cell phone etc. Had he done that he'd be serving 1 game. Maybe 2. Instead he chose to stand up to a group of billionaires. i know my methodology is overly canadian and totally non-confrontational but it would've been a better strat.

when i was in high school i didn't mouth off to the guy who was almost the same size as Brock Lesnar and today... i don't take on 31 billionaires.

Rog will only make stupid over-the-top suspensions like this stick if you have the gall to engage in a stare down.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 15 2016 18:17 GMT
#571
Bull shit. He offered the nfl all of the relevant texts, he did every thing right. The NFL just pulled a smear job on the GOAT.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2016 18:23 GMT
#572
Did Von Miller accept that contract yet? Broncos offering to make him highest paid defensive player and 2nd highest player in the league behind Luck
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:31:07
July 15 2016 18:25 GMT
#573
i've had 5 speeding tickets of 30+ km/h over. i got 4 of them reduced to under 15 km/h by being mr super polite nice guy and making the police officer's jobs as easy as possible. Brady should've done the same thing.

he should have given them more than we he deemed "relevent text messages".

http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-brady-destroyed-his-cellphone-before-deflategate-meeting-2015-7

http://www.businessinsider.com/deflategate-tom-brady-appeal-judges-hammered-destroyed-cellphone-2016-4

Brady needs to take some crying press conference lessons from Jon "bones" Jones. " i love this game.. i love the NFL .. i love the competition. .and to take this away from me just rips my heart out... these owners have created the greatest sports league in the world" etc etc etc. then just start crying a lot.

but its too late for all that.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 15 2016 18:35 GMT
#574
Brady didn't do anything wrong. There was no need for him to turn over his phone via the cba, and he offered to provide the texts they wanted with out letting the NFL paw around in his personal shit they had no right to. Add in the fact that he didn't cheat, and this is a straight up smear job.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:44:03
July 15 2016 18:40 GMT
#575
the key to negotiating successfully is to follow the unwritten rules of the relationship you have with your employer. Brady failed to fully co-operate with the NFL's investigation. So this is what you get. As a counter example, had Michael Jordan did the Brady thing in the mid-90s he probably would not be an NBA hall of famer. As it is, we know nothing about what Jordan did wrong. All we know is he just got the urge to start playing minor league baseball for 2 years.

I'd go the Michael Jordan route and not the Tom Brady route when it comes to negotiating with the commish.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 15 2016 18:53 GMT
#576
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 15 2016 19:40 GMT
#577
People who think that Brady did anything wrong as more delusional than the people think that 4 games was a appropriate penalty.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 20:49:29
July 15 2016 20:48 GMT
#578
Judge Berman ordered both sides to negotiate a deal in late August of 2015 and Brady chose to take the more confrontational route.

i wonder how much this legal war cost him and the NFLPA?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 15 2016 21:06 GMT
#579
To be fair the NFL also refused to negotiate. And if he was innocent and getting railroaded, why wouldn't he and the nflpa fight it? If the NFL can do this to Tom Fucking Brady, they can do it to anyone. What if they got after a player who speaks out against shady concussion or pain killer shit next?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 21:35:11
July 15 2016 21:34 GMT
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