EPT2015 - 2016 Football Thread - Page 59
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6298 Posts
On August 19 2015 22:20 Pandemona wrote: Well yeah but i think Biscuits is in the same category as Xavi. I mean since Messi Xavi Iniesta Biscuits Puyol. There has been who? Biscuits , hehe. Thats a good one!  | ||
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haitike
Spain2716 Posts
Barcelona Massia is in a bad streak. This Summer Spain won the U19 Eurocup and for the first time, there weren't any Barcelona player. On August 19 2015 22:07 Pandemona wrote: He spent like a whole season on the bench? What do you mean you don't know the difference? He didn't leave Barcelona because he was bored, was because he didnt play xD He played in his last season in 36 matches of the 38 la liga matches. He played a lot in Barcelona. If he were able to be fit more than 4 months per season, he would have replaced Xavi as midfield the next year after he left. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On August 19 2015 22:55 haitike wrote: I think Tiago is the last good player of la Masia. Maybe Adama will be good, we will see in the next years in Aston Villa. Barcelona Massia is in a bad streak. This Summer Spain won the U19 Eurocup and for the first time, there weren't any Barcelona player. He played in his last season in 36 matches of the 38 la liga matches. He played a lot in Barcelona. If he were able to be fit more than 4 months per season, he would have replaced Xavi as midfield the next year after he left. I thought those were all sub appearances or something, hmm in that case wow  | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
even in arsenal he always had an amazing half season and a "not a good" one (i dont want to say bad), Fabregas would have easily been Xavi replacement in Barcelona but he always lacked that "extra" something. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
US futbol in a nutshell: | ||
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zeo
Serbia6298 Posts
On August 20 2015 00:56 Faruko wrote: Fabregas has always been that kind of player tho even in arsenal he always had an amazing half season and a "not a good" one (i dont want to say bad), Fabregas would have easily been Xavi replacement in Barcelona but he always lacked that "extra" something. I think a lot of players lack a lot of things to replace someone like Xavi. Anyway, Fabregas is magic, he wears a magic hat! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
But while Woodward was haggling with Barcelona, Chelsea were putting ‘Operation Pedro’ into practice with Granovskaia conducting discreet negotiations with the Spanish club and, with the permission of Barca, Mourinho and Fabregas both speaking with the forward directly. With Mourinho and Fabregas working on Pedro, Semaan made contact with the Spaniard’s wife, Carolina Martin, about moving to London. Looks like we went into over drive on getting this one! | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Two years ago the league was averaging some 18,600 fans per game, good for a total league-wide attendance of 6 million fans that season. Through the end of July 2015, MLS teams are averaging over 21,100 fans per home game, ranking the league well ahead of the NBA (17,800 fans per game) and NHL (17,500). That figure, along with an increase in the number of teams, also puts MLS on pace for a total attendance of 7.2 million, a 20% increase from 2013. Top 5 most valuable teams:
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Acrofales
Spain18085 Posts
On August 20 2015 05:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Top 5 most valuable teams:
Source With so much money (seriously, stadium attendance is really high), why is the football so incredibly shitty? And yes, I have watched the odd MLS game. Each team has about 2 individually good players (usually end-of-carreer European players), and absolutely no idea of a coherent strategy or teamplay. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3983 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
CL play-off round ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/jHqyn/ae339e18b1.png) | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Anyways... Having worked with AC Milan since 2001, Riccardo Silva understands the glamour of Champions League soccer. Now, the Miami FC owner is spearheading a project to bring that glamour to the Americas. Silva, president and founding partner of media rights firm MP & Silva, revealed to SBI on Wednesday that there are wheels spinning on a potential “Americas Champions League”, a competition that would feature the best teams from North, Central and South America. With MP & Silva, the Miami FC owner has a portfolio that includes the 2014 World Cup, Serie A, Premier League, La Liga and Bundesliga among its more than 50 sports properties. Silva is now hoping to expand into the Americas, while hopefully creating the area’s premier club competition. “With my company, MP & Silva, we have started the possibility to launch an Americas Champions League, with all of the teams playing from all the continents of America,” Silva told SBI. “Like the European Champions League, but with teams coming from South, Central and North America. “For the U.S. teams, being able to compete in an official competition with some of the best teams in the world in Argentina and Brazil – they are some of thee best teams in the world – then it could be really something comparable to the European UEFA Champions League. I think it could really upgrade the level and the interest and the financial point of view of soccer in the U.S. I hope we will head in that direction.” Currently, U.S. and Canadian teams feature in the CONCACAF Champions League, a tournament that features 24 teams from North America, Central America and the Carribean. Meanwhile, South America boasts the Copa Libertadores, a competition that features South American sides along with those of Mexico. For years, travel has been seen as a complication in uniting the two, but Silva says that precautionary measures are already being put in place to ensure teams are not worn down in the trips across continents. The plan would see teams travel cross-continent no more than two or three times each year, helping to ease the load of thousands of miles of flights. With travel accounted for, Silva says that the next step is getting clubs on board, something that M&P Silva has begun. Having approached numerous South American clubs, Silva says that he is hoping to generate a field to match that of the UEFA Champions League while also offering comparable prize money to participants. “We are analyzing this, working with some of the top South American clubs who are very interested in this and so we look forward to presenting the project,” Silva said. “Each team will get $5 million to participate while the prize money will be closer to the European Champions League. It will be $5 million to the participating clubs to $30 million to the winner, so something very close to the European Champions League. “We are starting this and we think it will be feasible. We will see.” For now, the project remains in development, as Silva says there is still more to be done in terms of working out details. Source | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
Im not a fan of the idea. Pedro wont offer you alottt more than what maybe a guy like Shurrle did. Secondly Im not sure how Mou plans to play him. I think he wouldve fit better at United. Pedro has never lead the line, hes a support striker. I dont think the way Chelsea plays lends itself to his style. He will work hard, his distribution is good and he is all over the pitch. His finishing will be solid and he wont miss much so hes consistent. But he wont win games and I feel like Chelsea outside of Hazard and with Fabregas being incosistent lack some quality. Wilian I had hoped would step up a bit more, I like him. But when Chelsea isnt sound defensively then the creative players start to look much weaker and Pedro doesnt solve that problem. I hope he does well though. I really like him. On La Masia, Its hard to produce players of that level all the time. You also have to appreciate that the workings of La Masia are no longer secret with the knowledge sharing that goes on. So there is little that La Masia has now left to distinguish itself from other academies in terms of philosophy and the quality of player. Remember Xavi was around as a marginally above average player for nearly a decade and Iniesta for around 4 or 5 before the team exploded. Over the last 4-5 years lots of promising guys havent quite made it Cuenca, Nolito, Tello (who I really liked also) What you also have to appreciate it is that with all thats at stake its become harder for these kids to get a go and get extended runs and be allowed to make mistakes to get better. the 2008-9 Barca team came from like a miserable few years where no one really had expectations to them. Half a decade or so on its a completely different ball game with a sort of dynasty building that needs to be maintained so the margin for error has gotten much smaller in offering these kids a go at the big time. These guys like El Haddadi and so on are great but they arent much better than the average guy playing for Bilbao, Sociedad or Villareal, and they wont get better at Barca. Players who are good enough ala Thiago will and should look at their own best interests and ply their trade where they can succeed the most, so its also harder to hold onto these players. | ||
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haitike
Spain2716 Posts
On August 20 2015 06:03 Acrofales wrote: With so much money (seriously, stadium attendance is really high), why is the football so incredibly shitty? In my opinion it is because they use their "american system"of franchises and they only have 20 teams in a country with more than half of whole EU population. They need an open system with all the cities creating his own teams with the support of the local population and a big promotion and relegation system with 2 or 3 divisions. You will never see kids playing football in the streets, a decent national team or a decent average level in the league with that closed system they use. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On August 20 2015 07:38 haitike wrote: In my opinion it is because they use their "american system"of franchises and they only have 20 teams in a country with more than half of whole EU population. They need an open system with all the cities creating his own teams with the support of the local population and a big promotion and relegation system with 2 or 3 divisions. You will never see kids playing football in the streets, a decent national team or a decent average level in the league with that closed system they use. Its a lower tier sport. Franchises has nothing to do with it. The fact is that its not a sport thats ingrained into the countries psyche like it is elsewhere. I think the level is round about where it should be, and it will keep getting better. I assure you from 2007 MLS when I first got to the US 2015 is sooooooooo much better its not even funny. They rate of progression will slow down though. Thats just how the curve works and it will probably never be a world power but they will always be competitive and get better gradually. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8715 Posts
he plays on the same position as memphis/mata/januzaj/young/pereira pedro is good but i dont want him to displace any of memphis/mata/januzaj because mata is fking god and memphis and januzaj are young and need game time anyway. we have pereira waiting too we need someone like aguero T_T | ||
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On August 20 2015 07:38 haitike wrote: In my opinion it is because they use their "american system"of franchises and they only have 20 teams in a country with more than half of whole EU population. They need an open system with all the cities creating his own teams with the support of the local population and a big promotion and relegation system with 2 or 3 divisions. You will never see kids playing football in the streets, a decent national team or a decent average level in the league with that closed system they use. Well it isn't true that they only have 20 teams...there are 35 teams of which 8 play out of Canada. But there are also multiple youth academies around the nation that either aren't affiliated with a pro team at all or have some relationship. The idea that promotion and relegation has anything to do with a) kids playing soccer in the streets or b) youth development is something rather odd. For the record...in my travels in Europe I never once saw a street or park pick up game, but there are neighborhood parks in the US where you see nothing but local kids playing after school and on weekends in random pick up games. I think when JK first took over the German national team his quote about why Germany wasn't dominate anymore was because the German kids are never playing on the street and instead they are inside playing Xbox unlike the Brazilians who play on the beach, in the street, at the park. But also...I'm not sure what you would refer to as a decent decent national team...the US team has done pretty well over the last 4 world cups and seems to be consistently a top 12th to 20th team in the world in actual playing ability. Both Mexico and the US team are terribly underrated in the world scene...its just that neither are elite teams like the strong European or South American countries. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On August 20 2015 07:07 sneirac wrote: CL play-off round <3 <3 <3 | ||
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