EPT2015 UFC/MMA Discussion Thread - Page 71
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
both are def up there and joanna broke the same hand again Q_Q | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On November 16 2015 06:19 GreenHorizons wrote: Yeah giving the choice between eating punches trading on their feet or eating punches scrambling like a pitbull for a take down she should of went for the takedowns. Once she got a hold of her she was able to take her down, Holms had to use an especially explosive technique to get out of a sloppily attempted arm bar. Should of traded with her until she got rocked and then should of just stopped chasing and once Holms came forward look for any takedown. I imagine someone in camp was saying something along those lines. She got Andersons's disease, lets see if it breaks her or makes her stronger. to be fair it must be really hard to fight when you have diarrhea | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
Because there was a point when ronda was on the ground eyes closed and holms got on top of her but she didnt go all out she could have just continued punching at full force but she just let her fist purposely miss a couple of times. the gif i was watching is here Someone has edited it to have another gif like bleed through but u can see the point im talking about. http://i.imgur.com/7XONAZJ.webm Alot of the times when i see glimpses of male mma they normally look very battered and bloody compared to the females fights, is there a difference in rules or simply based on how the fight went | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On November 16 2015 12:39 Shock710 wrote: Hi i dont really know much about MMA, but i was looking at the gif of ronda vs holm, are fighters not really allowed to hit people full on in the face if they're down? or can you do that, but its just considered bad mannered. Because there was a point when ronda was on the ground eyes closed and holms got on top of her but she didnt go all out she could have just continued punching at full force but she just let her fist purposely miss a couple of times. the gif i was watching is here Someone has edited it to have another gif like bleed through but u can see the point im talking about. http://i.imgur.com/7XONAZJ.webm Alot of the times when i see glimpses of male mma they normally look very battered and bloody compared to the females fights, is there a difference in rules or simply based on how the fight went She knew if she tried punching Rhonda on the ground she was liable to end up in an arm bar. No knees/kicks to the head of a grounded opponent is the UFC rule (for men and women). | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On November 16 2015 12:39 Shock710 wrote: Hi i dont really know much about MMA, but i was looking at the gif of ronda vs holm, are fighters not really allowed to hit people full on in the face if they're down? or can you do that, but its just considered bad mannered. Because there was a point when ronda was on the ground eyes closed and holms got on top of her but she didnt go all out she could have just continued punching at full force but she just let her fist purposely miss a couple of times. the gif i was watching is here Someone has edited it to have another gif like bleed through but u can see the point im talking about. http://i.imgur.com/7XONAZJ.webm Alot of the times when i see glimpses of male mma they normally look very battered and bloody compared to the females fights, is there a difference in rules or simply based on how the fight went one gender just might hit harder than the other and have better technique just maybe even pres candidates watch mma  | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18041 Posts
Tristar Gym published a youtube video by Firas Zahabi analyzing the fight between Holm and Rousey This video is my rebuttal to the incorrect criticisms people made of Ronda that she "tried to box a boxer". Ronda tried to get a take down many times and failed. She tried to constantly close the distance in order to initiate a clinch. And, she failed many times. Congratz to Holm. She is a deserving champion. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
As far as her wild swings, it's pretty obvious she was going for the tie-up and clinch with the hooks aiming for an under or overhook. If you watch early day Fedor, you'll see the same thing being done. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
On November 17 2015 03:36 wei2coolman wrote: Yeah, I don't know how people got the sentiment that Ronda wanted to stand and bang with Holms in that fight. You could obviously see the over commitment into strikes, to try and transition into clinch. If she wanted to stand and strike Holms, you wouldn't of seen an commitment in bodyweight going forwards, and have her lose her balance like that. As far as her wild swings, it's pretty obvious she was going for the tie-up and clinch with the hooks aiming for an under or overhook. If you watch early day Fedor, you'll see the same thing being done. I tend to disagree with that, there wasn't any kind of gameplan behind going to the ground. If there would have been any kind of stand up gameplan somebody would have told her not to circle to Holm's left after she got clipped time after time. She tried to windmill her way to victory for 2 reasons: 1.Holm did very well at maintaining her distance to avoid getting to the ground, Rousey was to flat footed to get her and was totally unable to cut off the ring effectively 2. Rousey cannot set up her punches against someone who keeps distance and breaks her rhythm with simple jabs oh and lead lefts. If you have average boxing technique, you just don't eat so many lead hands in 5 minutes, Holly didn't even have to set them up because Rousey circled into them time after time. For the level people hyped her up to be at, it was comically bad, like an american football player who can't catch the egg to save his life. I already said that I am not to much into mma, I was aware that she had critics doubting her boxing ability but I was caught completely off guard how bad it actually is. Now in hindsight it is hard to believe that she got such a massive hype for armbaring housewives in 20 seconds. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
the only time you don't see balanced strikes, tend to be over-hand rights (rear hands), in which case, the forward momentum is usually transitioned into a double leg or single leg take down. We tend to see this the most with high level wrestlers transitioning into MMA. The difference is Ronda didn't have lowerleg takedown potential (she's never had to develop this skill), so when you saw her body weight fly forward, she could only aim for the upperbody of Holm's, but Holm's superior footwork allowed her to get out, because it was never pinned down, due to upper body clinch. IMO, you play that fight out 10 times, Holm's wins that fight at least 9 times, easily. Holm's had a gameplan developed completely for Ronda that night, Ronda showed up without any noticeable improvement that night. No cage cutting skills, no lower body takedown skills, no foot work skills, etc etc. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18041 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Hier
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On November 19 2015 13:38 Hier wrote: I can't tell the difference between Joe Rogan and Dana White. One of my highlights of PPVs are two bald men screaming at each other. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18041 Posts
funny, UFC never made an announcement like this for the Mcgregor/Mendes fight. so i guess they lied in Mcgregor's self produced biodoc thingie about UFC 189 having a million buys... gee lying about viewer levels?.. wow what a shock. http://www.mmamania.com/2015/11/19/9760102/ufc-193-breaks-one-million-ppv-buys-expected-to-finish-second-behind-ufc-100-mma congratz to Rousey and Holm for attracting such a big PPV audience and putting on a great show. i definitely got my money's worth. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On November 20 2015 02:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote: over a million PPV buys for UFC 193. funny, UFC never made an announcement like this for the Mcgregor/Mendes fight. so i guess they lied in Mcgregor's self produced biodoc thingie about UFC 189 having a million buys... gee lying about viewer levels?.. wow what a shock. http://www.mmamania.com/2015/11/19/9760102/ufc-193-breaks-one-million-ppv-buys-expected-to-finish-second-behind-ufc-100-mma congratz to Rousey and Holm for attracting such a big PPV audience and putting on a great show. i definitely got my money's worth. if I remember well it ended being 950k buys or something like that. | ||
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