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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 06:19:50
November 15 2015 06:19 GMT
#1381
here it is.

Holm pulls the trigger...

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/11/watch-holly-holm-knocks-knockout-out-ronda-rousey-ufc-193-video-vine-gif-finish-submission/
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 15 2015 06:22 GMT
#1382
On November 15 2015 15:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
here it is.

Holm pulls the trigger...

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/11/watch-holly-holm-knocks-knockout-out-ronda-rousey-ufc-193-video-vine-gif-finish-submission/

Doesn't get much better than a perfect head kick KO.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 06:44:47
November 15 2015 06:28 GMT
#1383

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


what a beaut
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 15 2015 06:44 GMT
#1384
This is truly the darkest timeline.
liftlift > tsm
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
November 15 2015 07:03 GMT
#1385
Only human.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
November 15 2015 07:20 GMT
#1386
That bull and matador moment when Holm circled outa Ronda's charge and Ronda slips and goes face first into the fence was my fav moment.
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
November 15 2015 16:04 GMT
#1387
On November 15 2015 16:20 Ultraliskhero wrote:
That bull and matador moment when Holm circled outa Ronda's charge and Ronda slips and goes face first into the fence was my fav moment.

[image loading]
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 15 2015 16:58 GMT
#1388
On November 16 2015 01:04 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 16:20 Ultraliskhero wrote:
That bull and matador moment when Holm circled outa Ronda's charge and Ronda slips and goes face first into the fence was my fav moment.

[image loading]

that entire fight was really weird tbh, it felt that Ronda lost her balance super easily in a ton of exchanges, even when she got the clinch.

I wonder what was the cause of that.
liftlift > tsm
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
November 15 2015 17:04 GMT
#1389
On November 15 2015 15:15 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 14:56 GrapeApe wrote:
I am so happy right now I could cry.

I am also now 100% certain Cyborg would wreck Rousey.

I also believe Rousey had a terrible weight cut. She looked like shit yesterday.


I'm still convinced Rousey would trash Cyborg, especially now that the latter is no longer roiding.



Im with you. Holme is a technical striker who used good footwork and calm demesnor to embarrass rousey.

Cyborg is a brawler, that falls into Ronda's strengths.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
November 15 2015 17:17 GMT
#1390
Ronda wants to prove to the world how much better her striking is now... proceeds to throw herself completely off balance on a left hook and face charges into the fence.

I used to like Ronda, but I feel like she bought into her own hype, thinking that beating girls like Bethe Correia actually means she's improving her skill set. Talking about shit like her fight IQ and making up moves in her fights as they happen. Unfortunately for her, Holly comes from one of the best MMA camps period, and they Prepared for everything that Ronda's known to do, and it was a bit surprising that Ronda actually brought nothing new to this fight knowing what she's up against. I guess she actually thought that she would just make up something new in the fight if she had to... makes me now seriously question this Tarverdyan guy.

Props to Holly Holm. Putting on an amazing fight. Hope she'll do well for herself in the days to come.

AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 20:19:35
November 15 2015 20:08 GMT
#1391
On November 16 2015 01:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:04 wongfeihung wrote:
On November 15 2015 16:20 Ultraliskhero wrote:
That bull and matador moment when Holm circled outa Ronda's charge and Ronda slips and goes face first into the fence was my fav moment.

[image loading]

that entire fight was really weird tbh, it felt that Ronda lost her balance super easily in a ton of exchanges, even when she got the clinch.

I wonder what was the cause of that.


The reason is she cannot box. Her flaws in that regard didn't have much weight until now because of the non existing talent pool in women's mma. She was basically beating soccer moms and housewives some of her former opponents had less than 5 years experience in combat arts.

Holm was succesful in women's boxing. The talent pool there isn't too big either but it is deeper than in mma. The moment Holm was able to defend Rousey's takedown attempts, it was clear how that fight would end. She was badly beaten up by a washed up feather fisted former boxer, this doesn't speak too well for her regarding her punch resistance either.

I guess many betters made good money on that fight. Holm was 15-1 - 20-1 outsider which is ridicolous. Bookies don't get caught up in hype too often but it happened in this fight.

Dana White nearly broke out in tears after the fight, it was glorious

Edit: Oh and she should change the people in her corner, if she wants to continue. They didn't even give her basic advice, probably too many yes men in her camp. She circled to the left the whole fight against a southpaw without getting corrected, this is simply ridicolous
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 20:24:16
November 15 2015 20:23 GMT
#1392
On November 16 2015 02:04 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 15:15 Masheyoon wrote:
On November 15 2015 14:56 GrapeApe wrote:
I am so happy right now I could cry.

I am also now 100% certain Cyborg would wreck Rousey.

I also believe Rousey had a terrible weight cut. She looked like shit yesterday.


I'm still convinced Rousey would trash Cyborg, especially now that the latter is no longer roiding.



Im with you. Holme is a technical striker who used good footwork and calm demesnor to embarrass rousey.

Cyborg is a brawler, that falls into Ronda's strengths.


Of course she would lose to Rousey but not because of her style. Cyborg is much bigger than her and she is a heavy gainer

In an eventual matchup she would have to go down even further to a catchweight and she would be totally weight drained. She might take the fight for the money but she will look like a zombie in the weigh in and would probably lose in the first minute.

From a sports point of view it is a stupid fight for her to take but it is financially interesting.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32154 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 20:56:48
November 15 2015 20:55 GMT
#1393
On November 16 2015 01:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:04 wongfeihung wrote:
On November 15 2015 16:20 Ultraliskhero wrote:
That bull and matador moment when Holm circled outa Ronda's charge and Ronda slips and goes face first into the fence was my fav moment.

[image loading]

that entire fight was really weird tbh, it felt that Ronda lost her balance super easily in a ton of exchanges, even when she got the clinch.

I wonder what was the cause of that.

she can't box for shit and tried to stand up vs a boxer/kickboxer as a judo expert

that was dumb as hell, i cant believe she tried doing that. that was baffling and straight looked bad trying to fight stand up. agree with angrymag, she needs to recognize that and maybe get better coaching.

I like Rousey, I think she's a badass, will smarten up and bounce back, but that was a really bad loss. At least it puts an end to that hilariously stupid stuff about her fucking up Mayweather, or being an all time dominant athlete or other nonsense.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24108 Posts
November 15 2015 21:19 GMT
#1394
Yeah giving the choice between eating punches trading on their feet or eating punches scrambling like a pitbull for a take down she should of went for the takedowns.

Once she got a hold of her she was able to take her down, Holms had to use an especially explosive technique to get out of a sloppily attempted arm bar.

Should of traded with her until she got rocked and then should of just stopped chasing and once Holms came forward look for any takedown. I imagine someone in camp was saying something along those lines. She got Andersons's disease, lets see if it breaks her or makes her stronger.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
November 15 2015 21:22 GMT
#1395
On November 16 2015 06:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
Yeah giving the choice between eating punches trading on their feet or eating punches scrambling like a pitbull for a take down she should of went for the takedowns.

Once she got a hold of her she was able to take her down, Holms had to use an especially explosive technique to get out of a sloppily attempted arm bar.

Should of traded with her until she got rocked and then should of just stopped chasing and once Holms came forward look for any takedown. I imagine someone in camp was saying something along those lines. She got Andersons's disease, lets see if it breaks her or makes her stronger.


I suspect she is done at the top level. She got heavily hurt and will be eating through a straw for the next 2 months. Will be out for around a year and already had her first surgery. 1 year is a long time, we'll see
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24108 Posts
November 15 2015 21:32 GMT
#1396
On November 16 2015 06:22 AngryMag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
Yeah giving the choice between eating punches trading on their feet or eating punches scrambling like a pitbull for a take down she should of went for the takedowns.

Once she got a hold of her she was able to take her down, Holms had to use an especially explosive technique to get out of a sloppily attempted arm bar.

Should of traded with her until she got rocked and then should of just stopped chasing and once Holms came forward look for any takedown. I imagine someone in camp was saying something along those lines. She got Andersons's disease, lets see if it breaks her or makes her stronger.


I suspect she is done at the top level. She got heavily hurt and will be eating through a straw for the next 2 months. Will be out for around a year and already had her first surgery. 1 year is a long time, we'll see


lol I mean not sticking around for the interview wasn't a sign of confidence (though I wouldn't want to watch/answer questions about myself getting KO'd in front of 10's of thousands of people either).

Injury report says she had a split lip where you getting this surgery stuff from? You mean stitches?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
November 15 2015 21:38 GMT
#1397
On November 16 2015 06:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:22 AngryMag wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
Yeah giving the choice between eating punches trading on their feet or eating punches scrambling like a pitbull for a take down she should of went for the takedowns.

Once she got a hold of her she was able to take her down, Holms had to use an especially explosive technique to get out of a sloppily attempted arm bar.

Should of traded with her until she got rocked and then should of just stopped chasing and once Holms came forward look for any takedown. I imagine someone in camp was saying something along those lines. She got Andersons's disease, lets see if it breaks her or makes her stronger.


I suspect she is done at the top level. She got heavily hurt and will be eating through a straw for the next 2 months. Will be out for around a year and already had her first surgery. 1 year is a long time, we'll see


lol I mean not sticking around for the interview wasn't a sign of confidence (though I wouldn't want to watch/answer questions about myself getting KO'd in front of 10's of thousands of people either).

Injury report says she had a split lip where you getting this surgery stuff from? You mean stitches?


My fault, there is stuff circling around the internet speaking of a broken jaw, but it isn't correct, White corrected it on his Twitter i am not very deep into mma so excuse the fauxpas.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 22:41:20
November 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#1398
contradictory reports are flying in all directions.

ESPN's ramona shelburne is saying Ronda did not sustain a concussion. ummm ya.
if anything one of those hammer fists looked like a candidate for 2nd impact syndrome.

also, sometimes it takes more than a day for the brain to fully react to trauma.

Ronda's chin got cracked hard. sometimes people recover from it 100% and sometimes ... not so much. of course ronda's camp has a vested interest in instantly proclaiming all is well because she's got filming to do.

Does any one know if Ronda has any track record of recovering from head trauma? i don't think she has one.

its not like she is a 28 year old version of George Foreman or Frankie Edgar or Mark Hunt. From what i can tell Ronda has no track record of recovering from head trauma. So this is new territory.. she could recover amazingly fast or have headaches for months.. only time will tell..
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
November 15 2015 22:58 GMT
#1399
Holly home isn't just a technical striker or a good boxer shes a world championship level boxer. thats something JDS didn't have when he came in. She made it a boxing match and when 3R got dizzy she threw a kick she didn't see coming but I doubt the fight would have gone the distance anyway with all the damage 3R was taking.

I still think weidman against silva both times were a bigger upset.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 16 2015 00:18 GMT
#1400
at silvas age i dont think so
sonnen had already made him look vulnerable
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