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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 05 2014 11:05 GMT
#1501
Prime Ray was one of the best players in the league. 2001 Ray >>>>>>>>>> Iverson
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
August 05 2014 12:01 GMT
#1502
what made that 2008 team great was that they played absolutelly crushing defense on people.
On August 05 2014 17:54 Ace wrote:
Yea, and the rim seems so damn short. Maybe it's the camera angle? Those guys look like their playing on a little league hoop.

maybe it looks like that to you because of how little space there is inside the 3 point line.since the nba one is further away
u gotta farm
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 05 2014 13:47 GMT
#1503
On August 05 2014 20:05 Ace wrote:
Prime Ray was one of the best players in the league. 2001 Ray >>>>>>>>>> Iverson

Woah now, thems fighting words even if they might be true.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 05 2014 14:06 GMT
#1504
On August 05 2014 19:48 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 17:27 Shotcoder wrote:
On August 05 2014 17:19 Ace wrote:
Man I think we forget how sick the 08 USA Team was. Wade, Lebron and Kobe were just unstoppable.




It's so funny to watch that because every other team looks like they're playing in slow motion. The speed of the game doesn't even look comparable there.

I was doing something similar by watching the 2000 team the other day and holy crap I forgot how athletic Ray Allen was.

his athleticism disappeared with his hair
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 05 2014 14:14 GMT
#1505
On August 05 2014 22:47 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 20:05 Ace wrote:
Prime Ray was one of the best players in the league. 2001 Ray >>>>>>>>>> Iverson

Woah now, thems fighting words even if they might be true.


I know. It used to spark lots of debate in our old NBA threads. When I was on Facebook people would damn near kill themselves over it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 19:11:57
August 05 2014 15:25 GMT
#1506
On August 05 2014 16:52 75 wrote:
can anyone summarise what changed during the offseason?
i dont have much knowledge about the nba and the players, i only know the famous players.

so lebron james went to the cavs, is there more?


Breaking news, SA quietly resigned everybody.

On a more serious tone, TD and TP9 feeling like they've got respectively one and two (even 3?) seasons still in them is actually quite a news in terms of longevity (but no team hopping hype here, it was pretty much stay or retire at this point).

Also Pau Gasol went to the bulls who are pretty much in win now mode. They should be able to get to the conf Finals or even the Finals given how weak the east is, and a healthy D Rose could get them further maybe.

Melo back to the knicks, and PG out for the season due to an ugly ugly leg fracture.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#1507
Really iffy on the Bulls. Pau has been terrible for his standards the last 3 years. If the Bulls do damage I think Rose and Butler have to be the cogs. Probably still win the East's best record though. Need to see how Charlotte, Toronto, Atlanta, Cleveland and Miami turn out.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#1508
On August 05 2014 22:47 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 20:05 Ace wrote:
Prime Ray was one of the best players in the league. 2001 Ray >>>>>>>>>> Iverson

Woah now, thems fighting words even if they might be true.


Iverson stop being good after they started calling carrying the ball every other play on his ass.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 18:39:33
August 05 2014 17:34 GMT
#1509
ESPN acting like reporting that a "handshake" deal is in place is news. Lol, anything for the day's clicks...


Pau also had D'Antoni as his coach though, who before he even arrived in LA had already thrown Gasol under the bus. Pau is gonna surprise some heads in my opinion.

And the forgotten thing about Gasol is how he went to three straight finals and then played for Spain in that tournament in the offseason. Anyone with a brain, knew there was a chance he wasn't going to be the same the season after that (he was injured/didn't play well) but the last 2 season have been b/c of D'Antoni and his system, him being injured, and him being passive-aggressive in his rebellion to D'Antoni treating him like that.

If he is healthy, him and Noah should be beast up that eastern conference once they click. A great thing about Gasol is he does w/e the team needs (and usually reads the situation well), so on a good team like the Bulls, he is much more beneficial than if he had to play that center-defender/bruiser role like Noah does. It isn't his forte and some people still judge him with that in mind.

With that said, I think the Bulls perimeter players might be more important to their success, like Ace said. I'd still put them as the top dog in the East at this very moment.

edit: GoGo Becky Hammon.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 05 2014 18:11 GMT
#1510
I think the same argument for why Melo and Love would have been such great fits in CHI applies to a lesser extent to Pau, i.e. CHI's overall defense will make up for any defensive deficiencies and CHI could use any help they can get on offense.

Pau has definitely regressed over the past few years, particularly on defense due to his declining speed and athleticism (which were never elite to begin with), but he's still a smart and skilled 7 footer with good size. I'm pretty confident that Thibs will find a way to minimize his negative impact on that end and maximize his strengths. His role on that end will not be as big as it was for the Lakers.

On the other end, he should fit right into the Bulls' system of constant movement and passing. He could also lead the second unit against opposing benches when Rose and/or Noah are sitting, which he should be very capable of.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 05 2014 18:59 GMT
#1511
On August 06 2014 03:11 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I think the same argument for why Melo and Love would have been such great fits in CHI applies to a lesser extent to Pau, i.e. CHI's overall defense will make up for any defensive deficiencies and CHI could use any help they can get on offense.

Pau has definitely regressed over the past few years, particularly on defense due to his declining speed and athleticism (which were never elite to begin with), but he's still a smart and skilled 7 footer with good size. I'm pretty confident that Thibs will find a way to minimize his negative impact on that end and maximize his strengths. His role on that end will not be as big as it was for the Lakers.

On the other end, he should fit right into the Bulls' system of constant movement and passing. He could also lead the second unit against opposing benches when Rose and/or Noah are sitting, which he should be very capable of.

Bit off topic but I don't think Melo fits in that category with Love and old man Pau - I think he's closer to Kyrie's story (although Melo is a far more efficient player these days.) He's extremely lazy and a bit dumb on defense, but he's not untalented. I think he would've been devastating on the Bulls and under Thibs, and it's a shame we're stuck with the Knicks version.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 05 2014 21:35 GMT
#1512
i wonder what the players think of this statement.

“The NBA All-Star Game was played on that court with those stanchions. The NBA Summer League is played there…” Colangelo said in a media conference call. “The stanchion is not the issue here. Some people want to make it an issue, but it’s not.”

PG landed on it, anyone can land on it, but apparently, its a non issue.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 05 2014 22:02 GMT
#1513
I've never heard the word stanchion so much before. But seriously, why do so many sports continue to fail to recognize how much bigger, faster, stronger the athletes are now?
Freeeeeeedom
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-05 22:09:50
August 05 2014 22:09 GMT
#1514
On August 06 2014 07:02 cLutZ wrote:
I've never heard the word stanchion so much before. But seriously, why do so many sports continue to fail to recognize how much bigger, faster, stronger the athletes are now?


cause no matter how much they say they care about player safety, profits > safety.

if they had to move everything on the baseline back more, it would mean less seats.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 05 2014 23:30 GMT
#1515
In NBA games though, the only people they ever fall into (on the baseline) are cameramen shooting an angle that no one wants to see, and beat reporters that write stories that no one wants to read.
Freeeeeeedom
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13537 Posts
August 05 2014 23:57 GMT
#1516
On August 05 2014 23:14 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 22:47 Haiq343 wrote:
On August 05 2014 20:05 Ace wrote:
Prime Ray was one of the best players in the league. 2001 Ray >>>>>>>>>> Iverson

Woah now, thems fighting words even if they might be true.


I know. It used to spark lots of debate in our old NBA threads. When I was on Facebook people would damn near kill themselves over it.


Iverson's pretty overrated in a basketball sense. He was a good player but nowhere near as good as he was hyped in his prime.

As a cultural icon to basketball he was huge. Up there with Kobe in that regard. But somewhere along the line his personal popularity correlated into his perceived talent.

Truth be told he was a chucking ball hog but who could pull off amazing plays that had you staring in amazement. He didn't play D but was entertaining as hell and had the heart of a lion for a guy his size. You'd never win with Iverson as I don't think his game translated into leading a legit contender but he was a lot of fun.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 06 2014 00:02 GMT
#1517
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-spurs-cant-stop-winning-gregg-popovich-just-hired-a-female-asssistant-coach/

so when will the NBA get their own January? or did they already have?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13537 Posts
August 06 2014 00:35 GMT
#1518
Sooo, here's an interesting hypothetical: lets say embiid didn't get injured and went #1 to the Cavs (and was beasting college like he was pre injury). Would you still trade embiid for love?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 06 2014 00:50 GMT
#1519
yes and embiid would be worth more.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 06 2014 01:15 GMT
#1520
On August 06 2014 09:35 RowdierBob wrote:
Sooo, here's an interesting hypothetical: lets say embiid didn't get injured and went #1 to the Cavs (and was beasting college like he was pre injury). Would you still trade embiid for love?

Straight up? Yes. In the deal that's been floated most prominently? No.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
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