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On June 30 2014 08:14 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 03:07 Sub40APM wrote:On June 29 2014 18:10 GolemMadness wrote:
Kunitz was always a 50-60 point player on Anaheim. He's averaged a bit higher on Pittsburgh, but he clearly isn't some 4th line guy who suddenly triples his point totals just because he plays with Crosby. Everytime Crosby is injured, Kunitz becomes invisible. He is a perennial 3rd liner who was turned into a first line scorer thanks singularly to Crosby. Strange, didn't know that Crosby used to play on Anaheim. 2011-2012 Crosby plays 22 games. Kunitz gets 61 points, the second most he's gotten in a season on Pittsburgh.
Getzlaf and Perry bouncing pucks of his forehead into the net in Anaheim. 2011-2012, Crosby's oace generated 65% of his points. He is the luckiest third line winger in the world in the history of the game.
Erhoff just got bought out. Who will throw big money at what theoretically could be the best free agent D man out there right now. I kind of hope its Detroit, but I am sure some 40 year old needs 10 million x 4 years and of course we always must make room for Cleary.
Reimer asks for trade because he sees the writing on the wall, Bernier has been anointed as the chosen one and the last three weeks of the Leafs season of failure somehow is Reimier's and not the Leafs poorly thought out system. In a way though I am quite satisfied, its nice to see that even statistical aberrations couldnt hide the fact that Nonis has always been a hack. Well, off to Calgary with you fatboy. Also, why wont leafs buyout Clarkson?
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what is he supposed to do? ofc he has to get out of town. screw all the stuff you hear about 1A and 1B lmao. It's bullshit. Polak is by no means an upgrade. Carl Gunnarsson was one of our best d-man and we just shipped him out. lol Oh well.
On June 30 2014 08:49 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 08:14 GolemMadness wrote:On June 30 2014 03:07 Sub40APM wrote:On June 29 2014 18:10 GolemMadness wrote:
Kunitz was always a 50-60 point player on Anaheim. He's averaged a bit higher on Pittsburgh, but he clearly isn't some 4th line guy who suddenly triples his point totals just because he plays with Crosby. Everytime Crosby is injured, Kunitz becomes invisible. He is a perennial 3rd liner who was turned into a first line scorer thanks singularly to Crosby. Strange, didn't know that Crosby used to play on Anaheim. 2011-2012 Crosby plays 22 games. Kunitz gets 61 points, the second most he's gotten in a season on Pittsburgh. Getzlaf and Perry bouncing pucks of his forehead into the net in Anaheim. 2011-2012, Crosby's oace generated 65% of his points. He is the luckiest third line winger in the world in the history of the game. Erhoff just got bought out. Who will throw big money at what theoretically could be the best free agent D man out there right now. I kind of hope its Detroit, but I am sure some 40 year old needs 10 million x 4 years and of course we always must make room for Cleary. Reimer asks for trade because he sees the writing on the wall, Bernier has been anointed as the chosen one and the last three weeks of the Leafs season of failure somehow is Reimier's and not the Leafs poorly thought out system. In a way though I am quite satisfied, its nice to see that even statistical aberrations couldnt hide the fact that Nonis has always been a hack. Well, off to Calgary with you fatboy. Also, why wont leafs buyout Clarkson?
Because they already used those two buyouts. We just got rid of Darcy Tucker's stupid contract. We finally don't have to pay him a mil anymore and you want to just go ahead and put that right back on the cap, eh? Oh boy.
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Kunitz played with Andy McDonald and Selanne in his best season on Anaheim, not Perry and Getzlaf. Perry didn't even break out until until 08-09, which was the year Kunitz was traded. Crosby's pace generated 65% of his points in 11-12? What does that even mean? Kunitz got 19 points in the 22 games Crosby played. So he was on pace to get 9 more points than he did that season. Wow, really riding Crosby there.
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EDM's Sam Gagner for TB's Teddy Purcell just happened.
#89 became expendable at the draft in the eyes of everyone and it didn't take long to expend him. I liked Sam so it sucks seeing him leave. Will be interesting to see if he gets time with Stamkos. that could be a good combo.
I have no idea who Purcell is, what position he plays or if he is any good. This probably means the Oilers got shafted.
edit: Hmm maybe not. Similarish numbers abound. The games played coloum doesn't do Gagner many favors but Purcell s isn't alot better. Well, guess we will just have to see what he can do
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On June 30 2014 03:58 Blisse wrote:
Gunnarsson for Polak... not sure how I feel
That's a hilariously bad trade. Gunnarson did really well getting some of the hardest minutes in the league last year. Polak gets third line minutes on one of the best teams and barely treads water. of couse, the leafs insist on poopooing advanced stats which further prove that gunnarson is a pretty good player, and polak is a third liner. even without that, polak's slow as shit.
On June 29 2014 01:20 4mgg wrote:
I think it was a good deal for the Pens. Not a steal, just a good solid deal. What Neal brought to the table.. Was not needed anymore. It is also a good shake up for the players. With the changes in front office and roster now as well, I am cautiously positive. Serious atmosphere change is needed at the club, and it has been a good start to the off season.
I hope that Hornqvist will replace Dupuis on the first line and the Pens will add perhaps Kulemin and Hemsky to Malkin's line. With that the top 9 could look a lot better:
Kunitz - Crosby - Hornqvist
Kulemin - Malkin - Hemsky
Spalling - Sutter - Dupuis
(I know Spalling has played C but reportedly is a natural winger?)
From what I've heard, Hornqvist is really good with the puck and doesn't give it away too easily, goes to the hard areas, works hard and has a net-presence.. Something the Pens really need. With added "grit" and Kunitz maybe utilized a lot better as a puck-retrieval type of guy.. And Hornqvist has been tipping in Weber's shots.. Could potentially be deadly line with Koon & 87..
I'm convinced that Dupuis will not be a top 6 player after his knee injury.. Without his speed, he just will not be able to create any space whatsoever.. Half-decent hands.. Not that big a frame.. But still great for 3rd line, no doubt about that. Maybe Gibbons and Spalling battle it out between 3rd and 4th line.. 4th line could look something like
Spaling/Gibbons - Vitale - Stempniak
I hope that maybe Bennett will also get an extended look at top 6 during the season.. And other young players will be given extended looks as well. Bylsma looked like he hated youngsters, with maybe one expection being Maatta. And that's only because he had no other options with the D injuries the Pens were struggling with. Johnston comes from a Junior league and will not be afraid to play young players and let them play through mistakes and develop.
With Johnston's active system and north-south hockey.. I like these additions. And Rutherford has hinted towards making Malkin happy so hopefully they'll sign two of Kulemin Vrbata and Hemsky.
God, this post-Bylsma era already feels so good.
I have no idea why you think the penguins will have the room to get both those guys. Hemsky's gonna get $5m+. Kulemin should get 3 or so, and the penguins still have a bunch of holes to fill. They have two top 4 defensemen from their already crappy blueline up as ufas, have jokinen as a ufa, and basically have to resign their entire bottom 6, including sutter and spalding, who are probably looking at 2.5/per each. they have 14 mill to resign something like 8-9 players. they can't afford to piss away $5m on a bonafide top 6 player when the main reason they failed last year was their shit d and crappy bottom six
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I never thought Gunnarsson would make a great top 2 dman, but I don't think Polak is the one to replace him... I really don't see why the trade was made. But as a STL fan I guess I'm happy having Gunnarsson, he's solid defensively and has more offensive upside than Polak.
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Now Gagner and Crombeen for a 6th round pick? Are they trying to get Vanek or something?
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Gagner is out. If Draisatl can really ascend quickly then it's a decent trade. But as CoppernBlue has noted, this is probably another example of the Oilers putting their young guys in a position to fail. Purcell is a decent return, he easily slots as a 2nd-line winger, and it's a good contract. Not sure what was with the salary dump to the Coyotes.
Here's a question, and a serious one. Which of these teams is the next to make a Conference Finals: EDM, TOR, or FLA?
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Tampa traded away 4.5 million to get a guy who gets paid what, 4 million...who they then moved for a 6th round pick and kept 1/3rd of his cap? what move is this?
Conference Final = Florida. Why? 1) 0 pressure means the GM can do anything he wants 2) Oilers still employe Lowe and play in the West 3) Toronto hasnt had a good GM since forever.
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Tampa has some questions to answer. The EDM/TB trade is close enough to even that you can look at it and say OK.
The one to PHX though is like wtf! also:
Thread needs more strombone1
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On June 30 2014 12:18 Sub40APM wrote:
Tampa traded away 4.5 million to get a guy who gets paid what, 4 million...who they then moved for a 6th round pick and kept 1/3rd of his cap? what move is this?
Conference Final = Florida. Why? 1) 0 pressure means the GM can do anything he wants 2) Oilers still employe Lowe and play in the West 3) Toronto hasnt had a good GM since forever.
The basic crux in the question is three perpetually bad teams who are bad for different reasons. Teams can win despite their GMs, and it's clear that Tallon's rebuild is going to need to kick in gear soon.
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Tampa traded Nate Thompson for a 4th and a 7th as well. That's another $1.6 million cleared up.
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On June 30 2014 15:47 GolemMadness wrote:
Tampa traded Nate Thompson for a 4th and a 7th as well. That's another $1.6 million cleared up.
Maybe gearing up to over pay and lure Hemsky so he can play with Stamkos? I really would like to know whats going on in that dudes mind. There should be a method to the madness after all.
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Purcell is pretty good, but a bit inconsistent. Long term they don't really need him, and his contract was quite steep, so it makes sense. I don't understand why they would trade away Nate Thompson though. He's a really good 4th line center. Good face off guy, hardworker, good shot. Not a playmaker, but hard to play against. Not the kind of player I would like to see on SJ's rival team, Anaheim.
Maybe they are expecting Cedric Paquette to fill that role, and free up space for a young 3C, but Tampa have dropped 4 forwards since the post-season so they're looking a bit thin. I don't know who they would want to sign. They look stacked on the D, and if they sign someone it would be for the long term. This is not a team that will go for the cup this season. They certainly have potential for a top 4 spot again, but they have a very young core of players that will need a few years to develop.
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Offer sheet subban dooooo it
They're probably going vanek but IMO I think hemsky can be had for less and on a shorter term and be lights out w a sniper like stamkos
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Canada8160 Posts
Heard reimers on the block, this is good
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red wings number #1 free agent D target is...dan boyle...
jesus. fucking. christ. Holland must literally have a sexual fetish about old men or something. just as the samuelson, bertuzi and cleary contracts were cleared and the average age of the team dropped down here we go again.
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I just thought of something. We are probably not going to see a single offer sheet this year. The reason being is the 2015 1st round draft pick is invaluable. Teams need to hold onto it just in case they miss the playoffs and win the Mcdavid lottery. A first round pick is taken as compensation for any salary $3.3 million or higher.
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