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15-16 thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/495505-nhl-15-16-mike-richards-possession-superstar
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 18:16 GMT
#221
Lots of smoke on Oiler acquiring a 2C via trade.

If thats true MacT is doing work.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
July 01 2014 18:28 GMT
#222
I can't even comprehend how bad Nonis is doing right now...
There is no one like you in the universe.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 18:31:33
July 01 2014 18:31 GMT
#223
If the oilers trade Petry I will be so angry. It would be another good player run out by dumb fans and a dumber media.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 18:39:32
July 01 2014 18:31 GMT
#224
On July 02 2014 03:28 Blisse wrote:
I can't even comprehend how bad Nonis is doing right now...


he is done for the day, holding a press conference starting nowish.

On July 02 2014 03:31 Flaccid wrote:
If the oilers trade Petry I will be so angry. It would be another good player run out by dumb fans and a dumber media.


No, its a player who has been passed on the depth chart by a better signing.

With Nikitin and Fayne he isn't really needed, an immediate 2C is a much bigger need as of right now I think.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Draisaitl-Yakupov
Pouliot-Arcobello-Purcell
Gazdic-Gordon-Hendricks

Nikitin-Schultz
Maricin-Fayne
Ference-Petry

I think that looks a lot better like this:

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-[Legit 2C]-Yakupov
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell
Gazdic-Gordon-Hendricks

Nikitin-Schultz
Maricin-Fayne
Ference-Aulie
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 18:38:51
July 01 2014 18:37 GMT
#225
Because having more depth on a team with a porous defense is a bad thing? Anything that limits Schultz's even strength minutes is a huge win in Edmonton.

I just never understand the argument that pushing players down the depth chart makes them expandable. Especially on a team where people have been drowning in the position.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 18:38 GMT
#226
On July 02 2014 03:37 Flaccid wrote:
Because having more depth on a team with a porous defense is a bad thing? Anything that limits Schultz's even strength minutes is a huge win in Edmonton.


I'd rather keep Schultz to the wolves and shelter Drai than shelter Schultz and throw Drai to the wolves.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 01 2014 18:41 GMT
#227
Fair. Though I suppose I'm hoping that sheltering Dry-saddle isn't an issue because I don't want to see him anywhere near this prospect destroying mess as a teenager
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
July 01 2014 18:45 GMT
#228
I can't comprehend how you can mismanage the Leafs this badly.. ~+~ 3m/year for Komarov? wtf
There is no one like you in the universe.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 18:52 GMT
#229
On July 02 2014 03:41 Flaccid wrote:
Fair. Though I suppose I'm hoping that sheltering Dry-saddle isn't an issue because I don't want to see him anywhere near this prospect destroying mess as a teenager


Draisaitl has nothing to prove in the WHL.

He is a big man who scored 105 points on a team that only scored 220 goals all together. He dragged the Raiders kicking and screaming into the playoffs. He has shown he has the speed and strength to play with men, he has already bought a house and committed himself to working out with Andrew Ference in Edmonton all summer.

I'd be shocked if he doesn't make the team out of camp. If he is going to do so, I want him to do so out of limited minutes. I dont want him to need to be a go to guy. If we trade Petry and get a center like Berglund, Marleau, or Legwand (who knows, maybe moving some prospects and picks with Petry) suddenly we have 3 damn good attacking lines with good size. Basically we become Boston west without the physicality and better star players.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Marleau-Yakupov
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell

I dont care what anyone says, that is a good top 9 even if Yak doesn't have a boucne back year and Draisaitl doesn't bring a significant impact. If those two players play well suddenly its probably the best top 9 in the league. A Third line with 3 40 point guys, a second with 3 60 point guys, and a first with Hall over a PPG and RNH / Eberle just below. Thats a club that can score goals and will have the puck on their stick a lot.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 01 2014 18:57 GMT
#230
On July 02 2014 03:31 iCanada wrote:
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-[Legit 2C]-Yakupov
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell
Gazdic-Gordon-Hendricks

Nikitin-Schultz
Maricin-Fayne
Ference-Aulie

If MacT has any sense Draisaitl does not make the team this year . Bring him up next or the year after with Nurse.

I also don't expect Petry to be moved. MacT knows what he has with that kid. He's a good player that just doesn't know it right now.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 19:14 GMT
#231
On July 02 2014 03:57 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 03:31 iCanada wrote:
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-[Legit 2C]-Yakupov
Pouliot-Draisaitl-Purcell
Gazdic-Gordon-Hendricks

Nikitin-Schultz
Maricin-Fayne
Ference-Aulie

If MacT has any sense Draisaitl does not make the team this year . Bring him up next or the year after with Nurse.

I also don't expect Petry to be moved. MacT knows what he has with that kid. He's a good player that just doesn't know it right now.


I dont think Draisaitl even improves any in the WHL.

Draisaitls year this year in the WHL ( 38 goals, 105 points in 64 gp (1.68 PPG)) was way better than MacKinnon's in the OHL a year ago (32 goals, 75 points in 44 gp(1.71 PPG)). MacKinnon played on a stacked hockey club and led the group, but Draisaitl played on an absolutely awful team that he dragged kicking and screaming to the playoffs where they lost in round 1 to the memorial cup champions in 6 games.

Draisaitl scored 47.7% of his teams offence, WITHOUT factoring in him missing 15 games due to WJC. MacKinnion only factored into 31% AFTER adjusting for his missed games due to WJC.

Physically he is ready at 6'2 220 lbs. Offensively he has nothing to prove, and logistically Draisaitl learns absolutely nothing in the WHL defensively or in terms of increasing his speed strictly based on how much Prince Albert needs Drai to be an offensive impact for them to not be absolutely awful.

If MacKinnon was ready, so is Draisaitl, and honeslty I dont think Drai learns much from PA.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 19:16:51
July 01 2014 19:15 GMT
#232
Taylor Fedun was signed by SJS for 600k 1 year. I hope he gets a legit chance there. I watched the game in 2012 where he broke his leg and I don't think he really ever recovered from that.

I am not 100% on the CHL to NHL transfer rules but I think Draisaitl can be put in OKC.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 19:18 GMT
#233
On July 02 2014 04:15 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Taylor Fedun was signed by SJS for 600k 1 year. I hope he gets a legit chance there. I watched the game in 2012 where he broke his leg and I don't think he really ever recovered from that.

I am not 100% on the CHL to NHL transfer rules but I think Draisaitl can be put in OKC.


No he can't, he was property of the WHL before the NHL, thus the CHL / NHL transfer agreement applies. Either he plays in the NHL or the WHL. No other option.

The only time it doesn't apply is when an NHL team owns the player before lending them to a CHL team. Example of this are Pitlick, Etem, etc.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 19:30:47
July 01 2014 19:29 GMT
#234
On July 02 2014 04:18 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 04:15 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Taylor Fedun was signed by SJS for 600k 1 year. I hope he gets a legit chance there. I watched the game in 2012 where he broke his leg and I don't think he really ever recovered from that.

I am not 100% on the CHL to NHL transfer rules but I think Draisaitl can be put in OKC.


No he can't, he was property of the WHL before the NHL, thus the CHL / NHL transfer agreement applies. Either he plays in the NHL or the WHL. No other option.

The only time it doesn't apply is when an NHL team owns the player before lending them to a CHL team. Example of this are Pitlick, Etem, etc.

Damn...I agree he has nothing to prove in the CHL but I just don't want him on the Oilers right now because I doubt the Oilers will suddenly have the puck and play good defense after one season of changes. We still lack a top 2 defender. What's currently on the roster isn't terrible but its all 3-4 guys IMO. Nothing left on the blueline for UFAs either

Might have to put him on the team anyways. UFA list is getting dry on the centers front. Legwand is probably the best left and Gomez or Lewis being the next 2 best.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 19:34 GMT
#235
On July 02 2014 04:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 04:18 iCanada wrote:
On July 02 2014 04:15 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Taylor Fedun was signed by SJS for 600k 1 year. I hope he gets a legit chance there. I watched the game in 2012 where he broke his leg and I don't think he really ever recovered from that.

I am not 100% on the CHL to NHL transfer rules but I think Draisaitl can be put in OKC.


No he can't, he was property of the WHL before the NHL, thus the CHL / NHL transfer agreement applies. Either he plays in the NHL or the WHL. No other option.

The only time it doesn't apply is when an NHL team owns the player before lending them to a CHL team. Example of this are Pitlick, Etem, etc.

Damn...I agree he has nothing to prove in the CHL but I just don't want him on the Oilers right now because I doubt the Oilers will suddenly have the puck and play good defense after one season of changes. We still lack a top 2 defender. What's currently on the roster isn't terrible but its all 3-4 guys IMO. Nothing left on the blueline for UFAs either

Might have to put him on the team anyways. UFA list is getting dry on the centers front. Legwand is probably the best left and Gomez or Lewis being the next 2 best.


I think him playing 3C is best thing for his development at this point.

We just need need a good 2C to force him into that spot until he is absolutely ready to take on that responsibility of moving up higher.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 19:51 GMT
#236
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 01 2014 20:24 GMT
#237
Al Montoya signs with Florida, completing the worst goalie hairstyle combo in NHL history
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
July 01 2014 20:48 GMT
#238
looks like the jets want to sign brodeur? montoya was the better goalie vs pavelec...
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 01 2014 20:58 GMT
#239
On July 02 2014 05:48 Blisse wrote:
looks like the jets want to sign brodeur? montoya was the better goalie vs pavelec...


I think the Jets have to blow it up.

I dont think they can compete in the west. Dont have the tools.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
July 01 2014 21:01 GMT
#240
"Flames hand Deryk Engelland $8.7 million for reasons beyond human understanding"

That is a real thing, not a typo.
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