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RJTheDestroyer
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada0 Posts
January 26 2015 21:53 GMT
#6761
Here's a link to that article. Will be interesting to see if anything does come of it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 26 2015 22:07 GMT
#6762
On January 27 2015 06:48 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:59 oneofthem wrote:
i think i prefer deflationgate over this drug thing. at least deflationgate has hilarious pats fans being defensive.


Deflationgate about to become even more hilarious. Latest report is that the NFL is zeroing in on a Patriots locker room attendant and has video evidence. They are now in the process of briefing Roger Goodell on what video technology is and teaching him how to operate Windows Media Player.

He should have deflated the balls in an elevator and then paid off TMZ.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 27 2015 00:20 GMT
#6763
On January 27 2015 03:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 22:56 QuanticHawk wrote:
On January 26 2015 15:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 26 2015 14:44 BlueRoyaL wrote:
On January 26 2015 12:39 QuanticHawk wrote:
Josh Gordon is either a massive idiot or a hopeless drug addict


He's seeming like a sad combination of both. Being hopelessly addicted to drugs when you have a potentially great nfl career ahead of you makes you a massive idiot.


I don't think he's hopelessly addicted... Like seriously? I don't think people know what that means.

It's not like his substance use would prevent him from holding practically any job that didn't require random UA's or a Drivers License.

If it weren't for stupid drug policies (outside of the DUI) it wouldn't be a problem, He probably does less "drugs" and drunk driving than most of the working people in America (especially if we're talking 18-24 year olds).

The guy wouldn't even have tested positive for cannabis under the new rules, and the only reason the alcohol was a problem was because of what wouldn't even be a problem with cannabis now...

How divorced from reality are people?

You guys make him sound like he's selling his daughter on the corner for meth money... Good Lord.

On January 26 2015 14:49 Slaughter wrote:
I dunno if I would say "hopelessly addicted" from the information we have. Probably just an idiot who thinks he can get away with it


Considering how much shit the NFL turns a blind eye towards can anyone really blame him? Also, if you can look back on your 18-24 years and think "whew didn't do anything stupid that put my future at risk" (like smoking cannabis or drinking alcohol when you weren't supposed to, or any of the other countless dumb things people that age do) than you are probably a boring person with boring (if any in real life) friends.



no matter how stupid I may think the Nfl's policies are, he knew very well that he couldn't even drink after his last dance with them and he did. He's literally chosing booze rather than playing, and he's still on his rookie contract. I think it's certainly plausible to mention that he might be an addict if he can't even stay clean long enough for that


Hopeless addicts don't have just a few drinks. The guy would practically get laughed out of AA if he tried to call himself an alcoholic.

It doesn't seem like he drinks himself into a stupor or really any evidence he drinks a lot or often. He drinks probably less than most people 18-24, especially in NC, hes just had some bad luck when it comes to getting caught.

I mean the guy smoked pot in college (who does that right!?) and got a DUI in NC (10TH drunkest state in the country) with a .09 (was really just a speeding ticket until the BA test) and then got caught with alcohol in his urine at a random screening on a weekend (while he's not working for months).

What seems like a much more likely explanation is that he is like your typical person of that age who thinks he can still get away with shit and doesn't comprehend the potential consequences.

But sure if one knew absolutely nothing about addiction or never bothered to actually read the details of his instances I could see how one might think he is a "hopeless addict".

As for owners/top office people caught with drugs or committing other crimes, they should get temp banned by the same guidelines as the players do, perhaps more so since they are "the boss".

Irsay being a 55 year old man in AA post rehab and getting caught with a car full of cash ($29,000) and prescription medication, and being unable to recite the alphabet. Now that sounds like a potential hopeless addict.

Gordon sounds more like a typical person in their early 20's who just happens to have the opportunity to make millions playing a game. If Wall Street randomly UA'd it's employees or gave random UA's to future employees still in college, that shit would be a ghost town in days.


his drinking and drug use is having a very direct negative effect on his career, that's like one of the main things about addiction
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
January 27 2015 01:12 GMT
#6764
On January 27 2015 09:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 03:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 26 2015 22:56 QuanticHawk wrote:
On January 26 2015 15:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 26 2015 14:44 BlueRoyaL wrote:
On January 26 2015 12:39 QuanticHawk wrote:
Josh Gordon is either a massive idiot or a hopeless drug addict


He's seeming like a sad combination of both. Being hopelessly addicted to drugs when you have a potentially great nfl career ahead of you makes you a massive idiot.


I don't think he's hopelessly addicted... Like seriously? I don't think people know what that means.

It's not like his substance use would prevent him from holding practically any job that didn't require random UA's or a Drivers License.

If it weren't for stupid drug policies (outside of the DUI) it wouldn't be a problem, He probably does less "drugs" and drunk driving than most of the working people in America (especially if we're talking 18-24 year olds).

The guy wouldn't even have tested positive for cannabis under the new rules, and the only reason the alcohol was a problem was because of what wouldn't even be a problem with cannabis now...

How divorced from reality are people?

You guys make him sound like he's selling his daughter on the corner for meth money... Good Lord.

On January 26 2015 14:49 Slaughter wrote:
I dunno if I would say "hopelessly addicted" from the information we have. Probably just an idiot who thinks he can get away with it


Considering how much shit the NFL turns a blind eye towards can anyone really blame him? Also, if you can look back on your 18-24 years and think "whew didn't do anything stupid that put my future at risk" (like smoking cannabis or drinking alcohol when you weren't supposed to, or any of the other countless dumb things people that age do) than you are probably a boring person with boring (if any in real life) friends.



no matter how stupid I may think the Nfl's policies are, he knew very well that he couldn't even drink after his last dance with them and he did. He's literally chosing booze rather than playing, and he's still on his rookie contract. I think it's certainly plausible to mention that he might be an addict if he can't even stay clean long enough for that


Hopeless addicts don't have just a few drinks. The guy would practically get laughed out of AA if he tried to call himself an alcoholic.

It doesn't seem like he drinks himself into a stupor or really any evidence he drinks a lot or often. He drinks probably less than most people 18-24, especially in NC, hes just had some bad luck when it comes to getting caught.

I mean the guy smoked pot in college (who does that right!?) and got a DUI in NC (10TH drunkest state in the country) with a .09 (was really just a speeding ticket until the BA test) and then got caught with alcohol in his urine at a random screening on a weekend (while he's not working for months).

What seems like a much more likely explanation is that he is like your typical person of that age who thinks he can still get away with shit and doesn't comprehend the potential consequences.

But sure if one knew absolutely nothing about addiction or never bothered to actually read the details of his instances I could see how one might think he is a "hopeless addict".

As for owners/top office people caught with drugs or committing other crimes, they should get temp banned by the same guidelines as the players do, perhaps more so since they are "the boss".

Irsay being a 55 year old man in AA post rehab and getting caught with a car full of cash ($29,000) and prescription medication, and being unable to recite the alphabet. Now that sounds like a potential hopeless addict.

Gordon sounds more like a typical person in their early 20's who just happens to have the opportunity to make millions playing a game. If Wall Street randomly UA'd it's employees or gave random UA's to future employees still in college, that shit would be a ghost town in days.


his drinking and drug use is having a very direct negative effect on his career, that's like one of the main things about addiction


The very negative consequences are from some kind of ridiculous standards and typical youth driven poor decision making. If the guy was showing up drunk to games or at least practice there might be something to the idea but really this is just getting silly now.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 27 2015 01:18 GMT
#6765
On January 27 2015 06:48 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:59 oneofthem wrote:
i think i prefer deflationgate over this drug thing. at least deflationgate has hilarious pats fans being defensive.


Deflationgate about to become even more hilarious. Latest report is that the NFL is zeroing in on a Patriots locker room attendant and has video evidence. They are now in the process of briefing Roger Goodell on what video technology is and teaching him how to operate Windows Media Player.

This is amazing considering their past investigative history. I also think it's weird that they haven't even interviewed Brady yet. Like what the heck? The NFL can't stop tripping over themselves.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 27 2015 01:24 GMT
#6766
On January 27 2015 10:18 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 06:48 andrewlt wrote:
On January 27 2015 05:59 oneofthem wrote:
i think i prefer deflationgate over this drug thing. at least deflationgate has hilarious pats fans being defensive.


Deflationgate about to become even more hilarious. Latest report is that the NFL is zeroing in on a Patriots locker room attendant and has video evidence. They are now in the process of briefing Roger Goodell on what video technology is and teaching him how to operate Windows Media Player.

This is amazing considering their past investigative history. I also think it's weird that they haven't even interviewed Brady yet. Like what the heck? The NFL can't stop tripping over themselves.


Irsay mentioned on ESPN today that Ted Wells handles his investigation like you would expect from a former FBI agent(I'm going to take his word on this, I have no idea how FBI investigations work), which apparently means he goes from low man on the pole and works his way up, rather than the other way around. Tom Brady will probably be one of the last interviews he does. Basically they want the peons to roll on the royalty, like breaking up a drug ring.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 27 2015 02:04 GMT
#6767
On January 27 2015 10:24 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 10:18 AgentW wrote:
On January 27 2015 06:48 andrewlt wrote:
On January 27 2015 05:59 oneofthem wrote:
i think i prefer deflationgate over this drug thing. at least deflationgate has hilarious pats fans being defensive.


Deflationgate about to become even more hilarious. Latest report is that the NFL is zeroing in on a Patriots locker room attendant and has video evidence. They are now in the process of briefing Roger Goodell on what video technology is and teaching him how to operate Windows Media Player.

This is amazing considering their past investigative history. I also think it's weird that they haven't even interviewed Brady yet. Like what the heck? The NFL can't stop tripping over themselves.


Irsay mentioned on ESPN today that Ted Wells handles his investigation like you would expect from a former FBI agent(I'm going to take his word on this, I have no idea how FBI investigations work), which apparently means he goes from low man on the pole and works his way up, rather than the other way around. Tom Brady will probably be one of the last interviews he does. Basically they want the peons to roll on the royalty, like breaking up a drug ring.

That makes a ton of sense. Hopefully they're actually interviewing the lower levels and not just saying they are.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 27 2015 02:05 GMT
#6768
At this point the biggest break is a equipment associate or something similar "read ball boy" who is in charge of handling the balls may have taken them out of the refs room that may very well have been his job, assuming this source is more accurate that the one saying that it was only one ball or it was only one psi under or that the nfl couldn't find any evidence. And from what I've seen they have talked tp team management and coaches, but players aren't talking ot them because the NFLPA is advising them not too. It looks like Irsay leaked this early, making a media circus before the nfl was ready to say anything, and its turning into another chapter in the NFLPA vs NFL saga, which is being over looked with dae bellicheat. Also there is already actual evidence of the Panthers doing this, but I don't see any one calling for Cam Newton or Ron Rivera's head. It has also been said that the patriots were playing with the colts balls by a colt, and its turning into a great example of why organizations, sporting or otherwise, don't like these things getting out before they've finished their investigation, or it turns into a circus.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
January 27 2015 02:09 GMT
#6769
So Woodson was given another year long extension. At this rate he could be playing longer than Manning.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 27 2015 02:29 GMT
#6770
On January 27 2015 11:09 GTR wrote:
So Woodson was given another year long extension. At this rate he could be playing longer than Manning.

Except he has been getting better over the past couple years, dude's a machine. No idea why he wants to play for the Raiders but I respect him.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
January 27 2015 02:34 GMT
#6771
Because it's the team he was drafted by in 1998, also he has a lot of business ventures in the Bay Area.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 27 2015 04:21 GMT
#6772
To further support my theory that the nfl really didn't want this out in the open, the ball attendant who was thought to be taking the balls towards the field, took them into the bathroom for 90 seconds, both the pats and the colt balls. This is why the nfl or any other organization doesn't want the media involved in shit like this.

source, is clearly biased but combines multipe reports
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 27 2015 04:27 GMT
#6773
Lol Kraft has come out and said the NFL owes them an apology if they can't find anything. The whole Pats org just throwing up the middle finger at the NFL.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 27 2015 05:05 GMT
#6774
On January 27 2015 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
Lol Kraft has come out and said the NFL owes them an apology if they can't find anything. The whole Pats org just throwing up the middle finger at the NFL.


Why does the NFL owe them an apology? The NFL has done nothing but open an investigation.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
January 27 2015 05:14 GMT
#6775
"Marshawn, Earthing for life."

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
usedtocare
Profile Joined August 2013
United States243 Posts
January 27 2015 06:25 GMT
#6776
On January 27 2015 14:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
"Marshawn, Earthing for life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5PgOk1Hjcc


I like this dude
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
January 27 2015 08:13 GMT
#6777
On January 27 2015 14:05 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
Lol Kraft has come out and said the NFL owes them an apology if they can't find anything. The whole Pats org just throwing up the middle finger at the NFL.


Why does the NFL owe them an apology? The NFL has done nothing but open an investigation.

The investigation is fine. The endless anonymous leaks to the media are not. The Patriots are having their name and reputation dragged through the mud by these tips, and given their content they surely came from sources closes to the investigation. The way Kraft worded his statement, he obviously meant to chastise the NFL for their leaky ship. Guilty or not, any party accused of a serious rule infringement deserves a full investigation before the rocks are thrown.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
January 27 2015 16:06 GMT
#6778
On January 27 2015 17:13 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 14:05 red_ wrote:
On January 27 2015 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
Lol Kraft has come out and said the NFL owes them an apology if they can't find anything. The whole Pats org just throwing up the middle finger at the NFL.


Why does the NFL owe them an apology? The NFL has done nothing but open an investigation.

The investigation is fine. The endless anonymous leaks to the media are not. The Patriots are having their name and reputation dragged through the mud by these tips, and given their content they surely came from sources closes to the investigation. The way Kraft worded his statement, he obviously meant to chastise the NFL for their leaky ship. Guilty or not, any party accused of a serious rule infringement deserves a full investigation before the rocks are thrown.


Except that A) The Patriots only recently washed the mud off of their name and reputation and B) The media is going to throw rocks whether the NFL has a leaky ship or not. Kraft is just being a blowhard, the NFL has every right to investigate this case and they don't owe him a damn thing even if they come back clean. That should be apology enough.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 27 2015 17:00 GMT
#6779
On January 28 2015 01:06 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 17:13 FatChicksUnited wrote:
On January 27 2015 14:05 red_ wrote:
On January 27 2015 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
Lol Kraft has come out and said the NFL owes them an apology if they can't find anything. The whole Pats org just throwing up the middle finger at the NFL.


Why does the NFL owe them an apology? The NFL has done nothing but open an investigation.

The investigation is fine. The endless anonymous leaks to the media are not. The Patriots are having their name and reputation dragged through the mud by these tips, and given their content they surely came from sources closes to the investigation. The way Kraft worded his statement, he obviously meant to chastise the NFL for their leaky ship. Guilty or not, any party accused of a serious rule infringement deserves a full investigation before the rocks are thrown.


Except that A) The Patriots only recently washed the mud off of their name and reputation and B) The media is going to throw rocks whether the NFL has a leaky ship or not. Kraft is just being a blowhard, the NFL has every right to investigate this case and they don't owe him a damn thing even if they come back clean. That should be apology enough.


That the NFL told anyone from the beginning that an investigation into whether or not the Patriots deflated footballs is the problem. I think that Kraft thinks that the news leaked from NFL officials, not from the Colts or Ravens. An investigation should have happened behind closed doors, and if nothing had been found, then there would never have been reputational damage for the Patriots. That they just recently washed the mud from their name is only more reason for Kraft to be pissed off.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 27 2015 17:43 GMT
#6780
On January 27 2015 13:21 Jaaaaasper wrote:
To further support my theory that the nfl really didn't want this out in the open, the ball attendant who was thought to be taking the balls towards the field, took them into the bathroom for 90 seconds, both the pats and the colt balls. This is why the nfl or any other organization doesn't want the media involved in shit like this.

source, is clearly biased but combines multipe reports

If the guy could remove, deflate, and replace 11 balls in 90 seconds, that's mighty impressive. Doesn't rule out that something weird happened, but that sounds like the dude went to take a leak.
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