EPTAnyway the biggest issue with speed skating aren't the amount of medals, because if you look at the table posted you'll notice there hasn't been a single multiple winner yet (unlike Biathlon for example). The issue with speed skating is that it isn't really popular outside of the Netherlands. (Unlike shorttrack or luge which at least have a couple more).
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
Anyway the biggest issue with speed skating aren't the amount of medals, because if you look at the table posted you'll notice there hasn't been a single multiple winner yet (unlike Biathlon for example). The issue with speed skating is that it isn't really popular outside of the Netherlands. (Unlike shorttrack or luge which at least have a couple more). | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On February 19 2014 02:15 Ysellian wrote: Short track and long track are different sports. Both of which with hilariously similar level of dominance by a couple of countries. Honestly the Olympics as a whole is filled with sports that are only contested by a few countries. Anyway the biggest issue with speed skating aren't the amount of medals, because if you look at the table posted you'll notice there hasn't been a single multiple winner yet (unlike Biathlon for example). The issue with speed skating is that it isn't really popular outside of the Netherlands. (Unlike shorttrack or luge which at least have a couple more). The same can be said about lots of Olympic sports though, both summer and winter. For example China dominates table tennis, Korea dominates archery, Great Britain poured in funding for rowing and dominated in London. I really don't see the Dutch in Speed skating as any different. They historically have never been this dominant have they? Either they've upped their funding for speed skating even more, or other countries are just sucking ATM. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On February 18 2014 18:21 GTR wrote: love the storyline for the ladies figure skating - can kim yuna defend her gold medal against the home-grown russian robot girl?  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/S5KBQEH.jpg) | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
It'd be pretty sad if elements of speed skating were to be removed simply because the crowds don't find it exiting enough or because other countries can't compete at the moment. Maybe it's because im Dutch and hence biased but compared the show of individual strength, endurance and willpower that is speedskating, sports like bobsleigh and luge seem somewhat... silly? in comparison. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On February 19 2014 03:15 AwfuL_ wrote: From what I've heard the Dutch training regimen is simply one or two notches above any of the competing countries at the moment. So it's no surprise they (we) are so far ahead right now. It'd be pretty sad if elements of speed skating were to be removed simply because the crowds don't find it exiting enough or because other countries can't compete at the moment. Maybe it's because im Dutch and hence biased but compared the show of individual strength, endurance and willpower that is speedskating, sports like bobsleigh and luge seem somewhat... silly? in comparison. i think the issue is not the sport itself... removing speed skating would be a terrible thing... the question is more like: Is there really a point in having that many medals in one category? Speed skating has 11 medals, luge has 4, bobsleigh has 3 Bringing it down to let's say 8: 500m, 1500m, 5000/10000m and team for each gender would certainly lead to less complaints | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On February 19 2014 03:15 AwfuL_ wrote: From what I've heard the Dutch training regimen is simply one or two notches above any of the competing countries at the moment. So it's no surprise they (we) are so far ahead right now. It'd be pretty sad if elements of speed skating were to be removed simply because the crowds don't find it exiting enough or because other countries can't compete at the moment. Maybe it's because im Dutch and hence biased but compared the show of individual strength, endurance and willpower that is speedskating, sports like bobsleigh and luge seem somewhat... silly? in comparison. Yeah, I agree completely. Speedskating is pretty much the winter equivalent to the summer sprinting events, and I can't imagine anyone pushing for any of those events to be removed. It's not as though other countries haven't been competing recently. One country just had a very good run this time. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17916 Posts
for all you Starcraft fans out there... and there should be plenty reading this thread. Sarah Kerrigan's name came from American figure skater Nancy Kerrigan taking a lead pipe to the knee from Jeff gillooly as part of a scheme/conspiracy hatched by Tonya Harding. Blizzard guys felt "Kerrigan" was a good victim name due to what happened to Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. Cut to 2002, the Sele and Pelletier bullshit double gold is well documented. Cut to 2014 and we get this. | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On February 19 2014 03:15 AwfuL_ wrote: From what I've heard the Dutch training regimen is simply one or two notches above any of the competing countries at the moment. So it's no surprise they (we) are so far ahead right now. It'd be pretty sad if elements of speed skating were to be removed simply because the crowds don't find it exiting enough or because other countries can't compete at the moment. Maybe it's because im Dutch and hence biased but compared the show of individual strength, endurance and willpower that is speedskating, sports like bobsleigh and luge seem somewhat... silly? in comparison. There's also just a perfect storm going on. The Americans, Russians and Koreans have massively under-performed, the Norwegians, Canadians and Germans are between generations of skaters while the Dutch have skated better than expected. This is a once in a generation perfect storm of a performance, not a sign that other countries aren't competitive with the Netherlands. The Dutch supporters will be quite disappointed in 2018 if they expect anything like Sochi. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28906 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
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L1ghtning
Sweden353 Posts
On February 19 2014 07:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the entire figure skating part of hte olympics has been almost as fake a professional wrestling for a long time. for all you Starcraft fans out there... and there should be plenty reading this thread. Sarah Kerrigan's name came from American figure skater Nancy Kerrigan taking a lead pipe to the knee from Jeff gillooly as part of a scheme/conspiracy hatched by Tonya Harding. Blizzard guys felt "Kerrigan" was a good victim name due to what happened to Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. Cut to 2002, the Sele and Pelletier bullshit double gold is well documented. Cut to 2014 and we get this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4kECZiXyM You shouldn't speak about things that you don't know much about. Now, I'm not a huge figure skating fan, but that's exactly why I assume the americans to be not guilty until proven otherwise. They caught the bribed judge in 2002, and they changed the scoring system afterwards, to make it easier in the future to expose corrupt judges. If Davis/White got their gold because of bribes, then it means that they've successfully bribed the judges in all the events that they have participated in, in the last 2 years, without ever getting caught. That's just a ridiculous accusation. Davis/White went into the olympics undeafeated for 2 years. That's what you call a almost certain gold. And pretty much everybody agrees that Davis/White were on par or better than they've been in prior events. If a pair is almost a lock for gold, and they perform flawlessly, then why do you assume that they won because of corrupt judging? It makes no sense to assume this. You assume this because that's what a few very vocal fans of Virtue/Moir (where almost all of them are canadians) are saying. Show some respect for these two olympic gold winners for crying out loud. If you want to put blame on someone, then blame their coach. Yes, Davis/White and Virtue/Moir have the same coach, and many fans of Virtue/Moir's are saying that their current programs aren't as good as their Olympic programs from Vancouver. This to me seems like a more logical explanation to why they've been nr 2 in all the competitions lately. | ||
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IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
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dgsdm
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On February 19 2014 18:39 dgsdm wrote: Sorry if its already been discussed but can someone tell me where I can watch the Ladies' Short Program today online? There is a stream here | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4130 Posts
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dgsdm
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
On February 19 2014 20:07 Fishball wrote: I just saw that Norway didn't even make the finals for Men's Team Sprint. What happened? I think they did? Barely on time. Maybe im wrong. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2849 Posts
On February 19 2014 20:07 Fishball wrote: I just saw that Norway didn't even make the finals for Men's Team Sprint. What happened? We barely made it, last lucky loser. Doesn't bode well for the finals | ||
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