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On February 14 2014 04:01 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 02:00 mahrgell wrote:
This will be another gold! YES
Germany wins the luge!
There is no competition in luge outside of Germany. It's easy to dominate a discipline when you have the only few professionals amongst a sea of semi-pros. Just look at Rowing in the last Olympics, UK and NZ were the only 2 country to subvention their athletes so that they could be pros and they got almost everything :|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Linger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Linger
Yeah, no competition outside of Germany
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On February 14 2014 04:05 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 04:01 Otolia wrote:On February 14 2014 02:00 mahrgell wrote:
This will be another gold! YES
Germany wins the luge!
There is no competition in luge outside of Germany. It's easy to dominate a discipline when you have the only few professionals amongst a sea of semi-pros. Just look at Rowing in the last Olympics, UK and NZ were the only 2 country to subvention their athletes so that they could be pros and they got almost everything :| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Lingerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_LingerYeah, no competition outside of Germany
Allow me to take the example of Stephano. He got on the top of some events, challenged the best koreans. But at the end, there was always a Korean to take the title ...
They have over 60% of the medals won at the Olympics. It's like a cornered market. Besides, the Italians are definitely Germanic so are the Austrians which make my point even more accurate since the competition must only happen in the West Alps every year :D
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That does sound very likely. Should have gone with Sportconflex I guess.
edit: Honestly it seems like Sportconflex director even warned that certain aspects of the suit weren't going to work. It may have looked like he was trying to put down the competition, but it seems like he was right.
On February 14 2014 03:34 GettingIt wrote:
You guys sound so knowledgeable! Do you all follow these various sports season long or do you read up on them as the olympics get closer?
I usually watch Speedskating every winter. Unfortunately I haven't been able to watch much this year.
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Canada8160 Posts
On February 13 2014 22:04 Jer99 wrote:
Sounds like a broken leg or 2
Confirmed 2 broken legs and possibly a concussion
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On February 14 2014 04:22 Ysellian wrote:That does sound very likely. Should have gone with Sportconflex I guess.
It could just be varying conditions, speedskate in the US are done in salt lake city, they run the fastest ice they can up there, keep the place air hot and the ice a few degs below zero which works well for short speed skate tracks and bump it down a bit more for longer events. Could just be the difference in competition conditions and training conditions. Just used to more ideal ice so they back off when they push off because of slipping.
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On February 14 2014 04:30 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 04:22 Ysellian wrote:On February 14 2014 03:06 Crushinator wrote:On February 14 2014 00:21 Ysellian wrote:The Americans have been desperately disappointing at speed skating these olympics. What happened? Congratulations Zhang and China! Great Race! Another two medals for the Netherlands.  It is possible those lockheed martin skating suits are slow. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/winter-olympics-2014-team-usa-speed-skaters-will-race-in-worlds-fastest-suit/Or the coaches are doing something horribly wrong. Davis, Heatherson and Bowe failing to get even a single medal between them so far is very disappointing. That does sound very likely. Should have gone with Sportconflex I guess. It could just be varying conditions, speedskate in the US are done in salt lake city, they run the fastest ice they can up there, keep the place air hot and the ice a few degs below zero which works well for short speed skate tracks and bump it down a bit more for longer events. Could just be the difference in competition conditions and training conditions. Just used to more ideal ice so they back off when they push off because of slipping.
The conditions definitely aren't ideal for the US and they didn't perform too well last year at sochi, but the Americans then were at least good for 3 medals and they should have known about the conditions coming into this tournament. But anyway you are right, we can speculate all we want but we will never know the real reason.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Probably i won't get an answer but are there any replays of Patrick Chan and Yuzuru Hanyu's short programmes?
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On February 14 2014 04:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Probably i won't get an answer but are there any replays of Patrick Chan and Yuzuru Hanyu's short programmes?
Can find some illegally on a website whose name begins like an Apple product, followed by a small mountain river and the last letter of the alphabet.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 14 2014 05:07 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 04:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Probably i won't get an answer but are there any replays of Patrick Chan and Yuzuru Hanyu's short programmes?
Can find some illegally on a website whose name begins like an Apple product, followed by a small mountain river and the last letter of the alphabet.
:D
Already found whole translation from tonight, thanks though.
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On February 14 2014 04:38 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 04:30 semantics wrote:On February 14 2014 04:22 Ysellian wrote:On February 14 2014 03:06 Crushinator wrote:On February 14 2014 00:21 Ysellian wrote:The Americans have been desperately disappointing at speed skating these olympics. What happened? Congratulations Zhang and China! Great Race! Another two medals for the Netherlands. It is possible those lockheed martin skating suits are slow. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/winter-olympics-2014-team-usa-speed-skaters-will-race-in-worlds-fastest-suit/Or the coaches are doing something horribly wrong. Davis, Heatherson and Bowe failing to get even a single medal between them so far is very disappointing. That does sound very likely. Should have gone with Sportconflex I guess. It could just be varying conditions, speedskate in the US are done in salt lake city, they run the fastest ice they can up there, keep the place air hot and the ice a few degs below zero which works well for short speed skate tracks and bump it down a bit more for longer events. Could just be the difference in competition conditions and training conditions. Just used to more ideal ice so they back off when they push off because of slipping. The conditions definitely aren't ideal for the US and they didn't perform too well last year at sochi, but the Americans then were at least good for 3 medals and they should have known about the conditions coming into this tournament. But anyway you are right, we can speculate all we want but we will never know the real reason.
likely reason, age, top end speed is the first thing to go, past 28 is all downhill for top speed. Endurance and long distance doesn't fall till 40's though. It's not as fun as a speculation but it's simpler and more likely. Sochi is sea level though it's doubtful any world records will be broken there. Still training conditions are likely a foot considering Netherlands position. US training conditions are likely good for long distance but they've never excelled in that area to begin with.
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On February 14 2014 05:12 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 04:38 Ysellian wrote:On February 14 2014 04:30 semantics wrote:On February 14 2014 04:22 Ysellian wrote:On February 14 2014 03:06 Crushinator wrote:On February 14 2014 00:21 Ysellian wrote:The Americans have been desperately disappointing at speed skating these olympics. What happened? Congratulations Zhang and China! Great Race! Another two medals for the Netherlands. It is possible those lockheed martin skating suits are slow. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/winter-olympics-2014-team-usa-speed-skaters-will-race-in-worlds-fastest-suit/Or the coaches are doing something horribly wrong. Davis, Heatherson and Bowe failing to get even a single medal between them so far is very disappointing. That does sound very likely. Should have gone with Sportconflex I guess. It could just be varying conditions, speedskate in the US are done in salt lake city, they run the fastest ice they can up there, keep the place air hot and the ice a few degs below zero which works well for short speed skate tracks and bump it down a bit more for longer events. Could just be the difference in competition conditions and training conditions. Just used to more ideal ice so they back off when they push off because of slipping. The conditions definitely aren't ideal for the US and they didn't perform too well last year at sochi, but the Americans then were at least good for 3 medals and they should have known about the conditions coming into this tournament. But anyway you are right, we can speculate all we want but we will never know the real reason. likely reason, age, top end speed is the first thing to go, past 28 is all downhill for top speed. Endurance and long distance doesn't fall till 40's though. It's not as fun as a speculation but it's simpler and more likely. Sochi is sea level though it's doubtful any world records will be broken there. Still training conditions are likely a foot considering Netherlands position. US training conditions are likely good for long distance but they've never excelled in that area to begin with.
It is actually the other way around in skating, sprinters are at their best around 30. Age is not a reason since all of them were top tier this skating season.
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Bad day for Canadian Track Skating 
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Crushinator is right, Stefan Groothuis is 32 and he won gold on the 1000m after falling short 4 years ago. Gerard van Velde was around 30 as well when he finally won the gold medal. Mark Tuitert was 29. Davis is 31 which is fine.
Anyway you are right; it is too easy to blame the suits. I just hope they learn from this and have a better showing next time.
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Shitty conditions for the Descent of the Super Combined :|
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15km classic will be interesting
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1) Cologna
2) Olsson
3) ???
*RICHARDSSOOOOOOOOOOON!!!! 
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Cologna such a monster!. Sweden takes the record with most silver medals ever?
RICHARDSSOOOOOOONNN!!!
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Sweden, home of the Cross Country Silver Mine.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Nice some alpine* skiing action before the tea tray competition. GB Best Tea Trayers - world :D (women are anyway)
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Norway28906 Posts
our guys are sucking
In reality that has been the case for many years though, we just had northug to camouflage our lack of top tier cross country skiers. But now he's also sucking.
As a tidbit, Norwegian newspapers have reported that he lost $20000 on pokerstars last night, after he was dropped from todays 15 km race. :D
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