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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
December 13 2014 05:09 GMT
#3361
2 years ago I blew out my knee. 18 months ago I was still walking around on clutches, could not walk a single flight of stairs, barely drive a car.

After a year of rebuilding I am off to the mountains again for a week of skiing. Wish me luck that everything holds!
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 13 2014 08:35 GMT
#3362
Good luck, don't worry too much just don't be reckless
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 13:49:16
December 15 2014 13:47 GMT
#3363
is there a word for it when you overwork a muscle a little bit and it becomes a dull ache for a few hours? i do it a lot (e.g. a shoulder) just wondering what it is psycicissologically

fwiw my shoulders are fuckin monstrous doing my sideraises while im still only ohping 45kg t_t
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 15 2014 17:41 GMT
#3364
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MGBJC14/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just got a pair of these on the mail today and they fit perfectly.

Haven't really found a pair of jeans that fit me well in the leg department and not have to go up to 2 sizes up in the waist just to keep up.

:D!!!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 15 2014 17:42 GMT
#3365
On December 13 2014 03:40 decafchicken wrote:
Pull ups - 10, 10, 10, 7
Dips +35 lbs - 6, 6, 6, 13(failure)
then biceps and triceps till my arms were dead.

First time I've done a set of 10, let alone 3x10 pull ups in probably 4 years lol.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 02:08 Osmoses wrote:
Ezbulkmode.

Guys, what is the correct pronounciation of hypertrophy? Is hypertrophy or hy-pertrophy?


You mean "gainz"?


FLEXIBILITY!..

THE ABILITY TO FLEX. <----!!
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 15 2014 18:41 GMT
#3366
One week of phat down and I just realized theres no bench press. Or overhead press. Its all dumbells.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#3367
45 degree weather = ultimate over lunch. Felt pretty good, my endurance is coming back and I even think my speed is seeing improvement with all the cleans I'm doing (maybe?) Still frustrating to get some hip pain/yuckiness from all the start and stopping.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
December 15 2014 22:28 GMT
#3368
On December 16 2014 03:41 Osmoses wrote:
One week of phat down and I just realized theres no bench press. Or overhead press. Its all dumbells.

You can handle way more benching volume (shoulder wise) if you only use db's. For shits and giggles you can swap to benching twice a week in a few weeks, but you'll notice straight away that DB's (provided you have heavy enough ones) provide a far superior chest workout.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 00:49:09
December 16 2014 00:40 GMT
#3369
I've been feeling much better about my body in the last week. I down to 183lb from 185lb from 2-3 weeks ago, which hopefully is a result of 1-1.25lb muscle increase, and 3+ lb fat loss. I feel as good as I have in a long time with respect to my health, and I'm keeping a good diet going. Hopefully by mid-January I'll be at 180lb. Lifts have been going alright, I had finals, so I wasn't able to get the proper sleep, but I'm sticking to the workouts. Yesterday I did:

Squats: 12x45,10x95, 9x135, 8x145, 7x155, 7x165 ... Mostly good form, back is getting fatigued sooner, thus my back isn't at the angle I'd want it to be at. Legs are handling it no problem, going below parallel.
Bench press: 12x45, 10x85, 9x95, 8x105, 6x115, 5.5x115... What can I say, my bench press is bad. I'm doing full RoM, and keeping good form though, so hope to see progress there. I'd love to be doing a 45lb plate on each side by mid-January here. Weirdly though, my decline bench press is about 40lb higher, but I'm trying to raise my regular bench.
Incline dumbbell press (30deg): 12x20, 9x30, 7x35, 6x35, 6x35, 4x35... Probably going a little bit too low, again, not proud of these numbers, but not concerned.
Flies (15deg): 12x10, 10x15, 9x17.5, 8x20, 7x20
Barbell curls: 10x45, 10x45, 9x50, 9x50, 8x50 (Definite progress here from two weeks before, hope to be doing 55lb next week)
Sitting hammer curls: 12x10, 10x15, 10x17.5, 7x20, 10x17.5... This is so embarrassing, but my arms were tired, and I'm weak
Super close grip bench press: 8-10x45, 3 times... Just to fully exhaust my triceps and finish workout

Anyway, I'm finally able to properly walk after doing squats the day before, so that's a good sign haha. I think today I'll do a few farmers walks, and one support exercise for both sides of the forearm. Tuesday will be Deadlift + Back + Tricep day.


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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 00:53:23
December 16 2014 00:50 GMT
#3370
On December 16 2014 07:28 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 03:41 Osmoses wrote:
One week of phat down and I just realized theres no bench press. Or overhead press. Its all dumbells.

You can handle way more benching volume (shoulder wise) if you only use db's. For shits and giggles you can swap to benching twice a week in a few weeks, but you'll notice straight away that DB's (provided you have heavy enough ones) provide a far superior chest workout.


I strongly disagree. You can lift more weight with a barbell and therefore it is a superior method. If your shoulders hurt you need to stretch more and pull more.

Back home:

South American Bench Open u83kg Winner (162,5kg at 81,5 bw)
Copa Rioplatense de Powerlifting u83kg Winner (207,5kg/165kg/250kg total at 82,2kg)
Copa Rioplatense de Powerlifting Open winner (best wilks)

Travel, weight cut and competing twice in a row was brutal and hurt my total I think. I'm somewhat conflicted because I won everything (happy) but sad cause I wanted to deadlift a lot more and maybe even take a shot at the south american record (275kg), but I got pinned down by 267 which made me feel embarrased.

Hopefully now that I won everything I can get a sponsor for panamerican championships next year, which will have better travelling and housing conditions.

I'm really really motivated to start training again.

I got the chance to watch a 66kg guy take a world record attempt, after squatting 230 (raw remember) he tried 242.5kg. As he was going up his left feet slipped, his leg split, the barbell flew around and everyone screamed. Guy was really really lucky to just tear up his hamstring, he could have easily killed himself there. His low bar technique was incredible. I won the Open cause he couldn't deadlift lol (he did 145kg bench, south american record and a 25kg deadlift to validate his both previous lifts)

The accident delayed the meet 30 minutes, I was squatting after watching that but I got over the fear t.t. Also super happy about the 2x bodyweight bench :D:D
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 05:10:33
December 16 2014 05:08 GMT
#3371
On December 16 2014 09:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:



w8 you bench 55 yet curl 22? :D HOW STRICT ARE THOSE CURLS LOL? :D edit: oh sorry BARBELL curls lol
yeah i feel like losing a tiny bit of weight makes me look insanely better and feel better about myself.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
December 16 2014 05:14 GMT
#3372
On December 16 2014 09:50 GoTuNk! wrote:
As he was going up his left feet slipped, his leg split, ...



How do one slip while squatting? The sweat stains?
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 07:52:55
December 16 2014 07:45 GMT
#3373
On December 16 2014 14:08 FFGenerations wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 09:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:



w8 you bench 55 yet curl 22? :D HOW STRICT ARE THOSE CURLS LOL? :D edit: oh sorry BARBELL curls lol
yeah i feel like losing a tiny bit of weight makes me look insanely better and feel better about myself.


Yeah, for sure. It just feels good being in control of your body like that, and achieving what you want.

My form is actually way too strict right now, I don't even know if it's a thing, but I seriously like refuse to do anything differently even if it's my last set to failure, and I'm on my last rep.

When I was working out before, maybe 40 months ago, I really screwed myself over by lack of maturity. I wanting to keep moving up in weight, and so I started to push around higher weights than I was comfortable with. This really hampered my progress, as I just didn't want to move down, but my form and range of motion wasn't good. I will not ever make that mistake again.

And currently, I see it like this. I have no desire to become an olympic lifter, I have no desire to bench 400lb, I have no desire to squat 700lb. To me, there are 3 pillars to strength training: Health, Aesthetics, and Strength. I think the average young person puts too much weight on the last two, here especially, it feels like too much emphasis is placed on strength. When I built my gym 3 weeks back, I had to design while keeping my mid forty year old parents in mind, and their needs.

At the end of the day, I don't mind that someone can achieve with SS in 3 months, it might take me 6 months. The point is, I know I am not risking my health with what I do, I allow myself to balance my entire life (that's another problem, most workout videos are made by people who make working out their life, while most people just want to be healthy and look good, 99% of people don't want to be Ronnie Coleman, Zyzz, or Zydrunas Savickas).

I just want to be in a shape where I am healthy, and I treat my body well, and it'll do the same back. I want to be confident in my body, I want to be confident at the beach, I want my girlfriend to truly think I look damn good. When someone looks at me, I want them to see, that I have control of my life, I make my choices, and I make them happen - I'm not a slacker. And lastly, I want to be strong, durable, and flexible. I want to be able to pick my lady up and spin her around, I want to be able to sprint 400 meters without panting for air, I want be able to go for a swim and be able to do 2 laps quickly, etc etc.

Anyway, I've noticed a slight shift in the mentality of this thread recently with some key members getting injuries. People are looking more so at their health rather than the number they are lifting. I want to be an ambassador of this working out for health here, and not purely for the numbers lifted. And I'll start this by posting my silly numbers of what I lift
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
December 16 2014 10:47 GMT
#3374
On December 16 2014 09:50 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:28 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:41 Osmoses wrote:
One week of phat down and I just realized theres no bench press. Or overhead press. Its all dumbells.

You can handle way more benching volume (shoulder wise) if you only use db's. For shits and giggles you can swap to benching twice a week in a few weeks, but you'll notice straight away that DB's (provided you have heavy enough ones) provide a far superior chest workout.


I strongly disagree. You can lift more weight with a barbell and therefore it is a superior method. If your shoulders hurt you need to stretch more and pull more.

You can get a more complete chest ROM with DB's. It's like deep squatting vs 90 degree; maybe you can squat more with a shorter ROM, but you should get more gains from a bigger ROM.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 16 2014 12:13 GMT
#3375
Well, I do get this crunching noise in my shoulders when I go to failure on bench ;p Asked a PT about it and he saw nothing wrong with my form.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 16 2014 12:56 GMT
#3376
On December 16 2014 21:13 Osmoses wrote:
Well, I do get this crunching noise in my shoulders when I go to failure on bench ;p Asked a PT about it and he saw nothing wrong with my form.


That sounds horrifying, even if there's nothing wrong with the form ._.
Yargh
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 15:47:42
December 16 2014 15:43 GMT
#3377
On December 16 2014 09:50 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:28 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:41 Osmoses wrote:
One week of phat down and I just realized theres no bench press. Or overhead press. Its all dumbells.

You can handle way more benching volume (shoulder wise) if you only use db's. For shits and giggles you can swap to benching twice a week in a few weeks, but you'll notice straight away that DB's (provided you have heavy enough ones) provide a far superior chest workout.


I strongly disagree. You can lift more weight with a barbell and therefore it is a superior method. If your shoulders hurt you need to stretch more and pull more.

Back home:

South American Bench Open u83kg Winner (162,5kg at 81,5 bw)
Copa Rioplatense de Powerlifting u83kg Winner (207,5kg/165kg/250kg total at 82,2kg)
Copa Rioplatense de Powerlifting Open winner (best wilks)

Travel, weight cut and competing twice in a row was brutal and hurt my total I think. I'm somewhat conflicted because I won everything (happy) but sad cause I wanted to deadlift a lot more and maybe even take a shot at the south american record (275kg), but I got pinned down by 267 which made me feel embarrased.

Hopefully now that I won everything I can get a sponsor for panamerican championships next year, which will have better travelling and housing conditions.

I'm really really motivated to start training again.

I got the chance to watch a 66kg guy take a world record attempt, after squatting 230 (raw remember) he tried 242.5kg. As he was going up his left feet slipped, his leg split, the barbell flew around and everyone screamed. Guy was really really lucky to just tear up his hamstring, he could have easily killed himself there. His low bar technique was incredible. I won the Open cause he couldn't deadlift lol (he did 145kg bench, south american record and a 25kg deadlift to validate his both previous lifts)

The accident delayed the meet 30 minutes, I was squatting after watching that but I got over the fear t.t. Also super happy about the 2x bodyweight bench :D:D


That's awesome! Congrats. Was hoping to see that 280 pull out of you though


On December 16 2014 16:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 14:08 FFGenerations wrote:
On December 16 2014 09:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:



w8 you bench 55 yet curl 22? :D HOW STRICT ARE THOSE CURLS LOL? :D edit: oh sorry BARBELL curls lol
yeah i feel like losing a tiny bit of weight makes me look insanely better and feel better about myself.


Yeah, for sure. It just feels good being in control of your body like that, and achieving what you want.

My form is actually way too strict right now, I don't even know if it's a thing, but I seriously like refuse to do anything differently even if it's my last set to failure, and I'm on my last rep.

When I was working out before, maybe 40 months ago, I really screwed myself over by lack of maturity. I wanting to keep moving up in weight, and so I started to push around higher weights than I was comfortable with. This really hampered my progress, as I just didn't want to move down, but my form and range of motion wasn't good. I will not ever make that mistake again.

And currently, I see it like this. I have no desire to become an olympic lifter, I have no desire to bench 400lb, I have no desire to squat 700lb. To me, there are 3 pillars to strength training: Health, Aesthetics, and Strength. I think the average young person puts too much weight on the last two, here especially, it feels like too much emphasis is placed on strength. When I built my gym 3 weeks back, I had to design while keeping my mid forty year old parents in mind, and their needs.

At the end of the day, I don't mind that someone can achieve with SS in 3 months, it might take me 6 months. The point is, I know I am not risking my health with what I do, I allow myself to balance my entire life (that's another problem, most workout videos are made by people who make working out their life, while most people just want to be healthy and look good, 99% of people don't want to be Ronnie Coleman, Zyzz, or Zydrunas Savickas).

I just want to be in a shape where I am healthy, and I treat my body well, and it'll do the same back. I want to be confident in my body, I want to be confident at the beach, I want my girlfriend to truly think I look damn good. When someone looks at me, I want them to see, that I have control of my life, I make my choices, and I make them happen - I'm not a slacker. And lastly, I want to be strong, durable, and flexible. I want to be able to pick my lady up and spin her around, I want to be able to sprint 400 meters without panting for air, I want be able to go for a swim and be able to do 2 laps quickly, etc etc.

Anyway, I've noticed a slight shift in the mentality of this thread recently with some key members getting injuries. People are looking more so at their health rather than the number they are lifting. I want to be an ambassador of this working out for health here, and not purely for the numbers lifted. And I'll start this by posting my silly numbers of what I lift


No reason not to be healthy and strive to push your body to the limit Obviously everyone has different goals and there's different ways to go about achieving them. I just can't wait to start squatting, competing, and playing rugby again and will do whatever it takes to work through my injuries to get there.

On a very depressing note, a pair of pants that when I last wore ~2 months ago barely fit around my legs now fit me perfectly. I must fix this.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 16 2014 15:58 GMT
#3378
On December 16 2014 19:47 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 09:50 GoTuNk! wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:28 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:41 Osmoses wrote:
One week of phat down and I just realized theres no bench press. Or overhead press. Its all dumbells.

You can handle way more benching volume (shoulder wise) if you only use db's. For shits and giggles you can swap to benching twice a week in a few weeks, but you'll notice straight away that DB's (provided you have heavy enough ones) provide a far superior chest workout.


I strongly disagree. You can lift more weight with a barbell and therefore it is a superior method. If your shoulders hurt you need to stretch more and pull more.

You can get a more complete chest ROM with DB's. It's like deep squatting vs 90 degree; maybe you can squat more with a shorter ROM, but you should get more gains from a bigger ROM.


Nope that's wrong, ROM is pretty similar, most people actually have a shorter ROM with db and that's why their shoulders feel better. You can move less weight because stabilizing the weight becomes a lot harder; like dips vs ring dips.

The point I was trying to make is that your shoulders should not bother you at all when benching. If they do, you have a slouched position, tight pecs/lats and overdeveloped front delts (vs upper/rear delts) and you should be adressing all of this for functioning and aesthetics reasons.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
December 16 2014 16:44 GMT
#3379
There are plenty of people who have a musculature that simply does not lend itself to barbell pressing. This is especially true for shoulders; there are few parts of the body where you'll see more genetic differentiation.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 16 2014 16:46 GMT
#3380
I would like to disagree on the ROM being greater on barbells. For one thing, you can bring the two dumbbells to touch at the end of motion, and for another thing, I can bring the handles of the dumbbells below my chest (which is important if your chest is large enough as well).

My chest isn't that big to make the difference, but I can definitely see someone who has a very large and developed chest being unable to bring the bar down as far as they'd like on a barbell. The downside to dumbbell press is that the majority of gyms do not have dumbbells larger than 100lbs, whereas you can load up a barbell as much as you'd want.
Yargh
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