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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5448 Posts
December 12 2014 01:31 GMT
#3341
After having my mini-meltdown ~6-8 weeks ago or whatever hurting my back again, saying I'm not going to lift heavy for the next 6+ months... Well, I've worked my way back up again. Can't help it! This time I squat/deadlift in socks. Close to my previous maxes. Have no pain so far. Feel pretty good. I wonder if it'll last. But now today I'm sick as fuck. Missed my first workout in quite a long time. Too bad.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 12 2014 01:50 GMT
#3342
On December 12 2014 08:24 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
So my school has an official CrossFit box. I don't really like CrossFit, but I didn't have much against it. I think it has some decent ideas, but a lot of it is stupid and some of the exercise selections are questionable at best. However, a kid actually almost died from doing CrossFit because he got rhabdo. I thought it was just something that happened rarely; I didn't think someone would actually develop rhabdo within two days of doing CrossFit and then almost die. Pretty scary stuff. Obviously every CrossFit box is different, but that was just one scary experience I had with one.


Wait seriously? A kid from your school got rhabdo doing crossfit? Do you know what exactly he did? I don't understand how rhabdo happens. Could I get rhabdo or am I impervious?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
December 12 2014 02:03 GMT
#3343
Given that you've been training for a considerable amount of time, your body's work capacity is likely at a point at which rhabdo is exceedingly unlikely save for survival circumstances. Yes, there are documented cases of seasoned athletes suffering from it, but more often that not, it crops up when a relatively untrained individual increases their workload far beyond their capacity too quickly, which is what crossfit ends up being for some people.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 12 2014 03:28 GMT
#3344
I figured.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
December 12 2014 10:04 GMT
#3345
On December 12 2014 10:50 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:24 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
So my school has an official CrossFit box. I don't really like CrossFit, but I didn't have much against it. I think it has some decent ideas, but a lot of it is stupid and some of the exercise selections are questionable at best. However, a kid actually almost died from doing CrossFit because he got rhabdo. I thought it was just something that happened rarely; I didn't think someone would actually develop rhabdo within two days of doing CrossFit and then almost die. Pretty scary stuff. Obviously every CrossFit box is different, but that was just one scary experience I had with one.


Wait seriously? A kid from your school got rhabdo doing crossfit? Do you know what exactly he did? I don't understand how rhabdo happens. Could I get rhabdo or am I impervious?

Yeah, it's kind of scary. I think farv probably knows about it better than I do, but the gist of the story seems to be pretty typical of CrossFit: coaches tell athletes to go way beyond the point where their form is broken down, they keep pushing, wake up the next day with brown piss and a near death experience. From what I heard, it sounded as if they were just doing bodyweight exercises for huge amounts of volume, and he probably just didn't have any work capacity built up to just jump into that.

If his kidneys had failed, he would have died. It's pretty scary, especially considering I've never known anyone who has gotten something that serious from working out. He's okay no, but I don't think he'll be doing CrossFit again any time soon.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 12 2014 11:46 GMT
#3346
Rhabdo is just the result of incredibly severe muscle damage. It causes a release of toxic byproducts and of muscle proteins themselves in to the blood stream. The toxins cause fever and other immune responses, further stressing the body, and the muscle proteins cause blood pressure problems, and do damage to the very delicate blood vessels in the kidney. Once those kidney vessels are damaged, you get the brown urine and the whole thing.

It's incredibly difficult for rhabdo to happen from working out in anyone who actually has a history of working out. Even for an untrained individual like this kid, to get to that level of muscle damage, he must have been continuing to do the workout well past the point where he had vomited, probably more than once, and was very nearly passed out. A little bit of common sense goes a long way in preventing these things.

You're more likely to get rhabdomyolysis from a traumatic injury like a car accident than you are from crossfit.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 11:56:20
December 12 2014 11:56 GMT
#3347
Insert shitty crossfit quote about how common sense is for common kinds of people here
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 12 2014 12:58 GMT
#3348
On December 12 2014 20:56 farvacola wrote:
Insert shitty crossfit quote about how common sense is for common kinds of people here


Never heard that one. I guess I've just been lucky enough to always work out at "good" boxes.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 12 2014 14:01 GMT
#3349
So first week completed with my altered routine. Trying to start the training for the tri, let me know what you guys think:
Mon: Lower body weightlifting
Tues: Shorter run and shorter bike
Wed: Longer bike
Thurs: Swimming (endurance)
Fri: Upper body weightlifting
Sat: Swimming (w/ technique work)
Sun: Rest
I may be able to squeeze an accessory/whatever I didn't get to lifting on a random day.
Felt ok, definitely need to start the endurance work lol.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
December 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#3350
Isn't it more fun to only do lifting and swimming, so you can get good at them? I'd replace tuesday with another swimming or lifting session
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 12 2014 16:00 GMT
#3351
You aren't wrong in that lifting is more fun. Swimming is still rough because I've never trained it so I'm super novice. However I'd really like to do well so I'm prioritizing the endurance work until end of summer probably. I'm also planning a tough mudder double lap run in May.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#3352
i tried the flye machine 1 set and it just raped my shoulders and stopped coz i was too fucked agh im so tired i just had 5 mcdonalds double cheeseburgers which is apparently 2225 kcal but i doubt that coz that wud be insane
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 12 2014 16:29 GMT
#3353
I ended workout with side lateral raises yesterday. With 4kg dumbells.

Nothing hurts worse than my pride.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 12 2014 16:36 GMT
#3354
On December 13 2014 01:29 Osmoses wrote:
I ended workout with side lateral raises yesterday. With 4kg dumbells.

Nothing hurts worse than my pride.

haha, I started those a couple months ago. Fortunately I was working out at home, so I had no-one to watch me as I continuously had to remove weight from my dumbbells as I looked on incredulously at what I couldn't lift.

If my experience is anything to go by you should be able to add weight reasonably quickly (in terms of percentage at any rate...)
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
December 12 2014 16:50 GMT
#3355
On December 13 2014 01:29 Osmoses wrote:
I ended workout with side lateral raises yesterday. With 4kg dumbells.

Nothing hurts worse than my pride.


Lol I do my rotator cuff circuit with ~1-2kg And i'm usually sweating by the end of it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
December 12 2014 16:51 GMT
#3356
On December 13 2014 01:20 FFGenerations wrote:
i tried the flye machine 1 set and it just raped my shoulders and stopped coz i was too fucked agh im so tired i just had 5 mcdonalds double cheeseburgers which is apparently 2225 kcal but i doubt that coz that wud be insane


Double cheeseburger at mcdonalds is a bit over 400 calories so that sounds right.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 12 2014 17:08 GMT
#3357
Ezbulkmode.

Guys, what is the correct pronounciation of hypertrophy? Is hypertrophy or hy-pertrophy?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 12 2014 17:40 GMT
#3358
High-per-tro-fee
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#3359
Happy birthday to you sir
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 19:43:01
December 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#3360
Pull ups - 10, 10, 10, 7
Dips +35 lbs - 6, 6, 6, 13(failure)
then biceps and triceps till my arms were dead.

First time I've done a set of 10, let alone 3x10 pull ups in probably 4 years lol.

On December 13 2014 02:08 Osmoses wrote:
Ezbulkmode.

Guys, what is the correct pronounciation of hypertrophy? Is hypertrophy or hy-pertrophy?


You mean "gainz"?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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