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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On November 28 2014 04:55 farvacola wrote: Hip flexibility is likely limited; couch stretches all day. Could be ankle flexibility, bringing your ass too back or simply your posterior chain is stronger. Need a video. Squat 190kgx2x3, I feel like a man again. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15353 Posts
On November 28 2014 10:50 IgnE wrote: You don't put your butt back on an upright squat. There's no way to keep your center of gravity if you drop it behind you. You are supposed to sink down between your legs. I think this is something I also need to work on. It seems like I can't get into a smooth downward movement when I front squat, I always have some "sitting back" in there. Tonight will be the first gym session after traveling around for 3 weeks. I am scared. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On November 28 2014 18:55 Osmoses wrote: I've wondered about the people advocating box squats or telling you to "sit back" as if sitting down in a comfy chair. Are they referring to a lowbar squat? Don't really know for sure, but low bar you typically bring your knees forward more meaning the sitting back thing should be less helpful than for high bar back squat. Either way I don't thik squatting is anything like sitting down in a comfy chair though  | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On November 28 2014 20:40 Crushinator wrote: Don't really know for sure, but low bar you typically bring your knees forward more meaning the sitting back thing should be less helpful than for high bar back squat. Either way I don't thik squatting is anything like sitting down in a comfy chair though Having the bar lower on your back allows you to bring your butt further back because your center of gravity is moved backwards, so yeah. That cue exists mostly because new trainers are treated like idiots who will get injured if they bend their knees too much | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On November 28 2014 20:40 Crushinator wrote: Don't really know for sure, but low bar you typically bring your knees forward more meaning the sitting back thing should be less helpful than for high bar back squat. Either way I don't thik squatting is anything like sitting down in a comfy chair though No you don't. A low bar squat is a powerlifting style squat, and your shins remain relatively vertical compared to a high bar, oly style squat. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On November 28 2014 22:16 GoTuNk! wrote: Having the bar lower on your back allows you to bring your butt further back because your center of gravity is moved backwards, so yeah. That cue exists mostly because new trainers are treated like idiots who will get injured if they bend their knees too much No having the bar lower on your back makes your chest dip farther down, because it has to bring the bar forward so that when you push your hips back you don't topple over backward. You simply cannot squat upright with the bar low and your hips back. People put the bar low because you can drop your chest more. When the bar is high, the moment arm of the bar on your hip joint is longer, whereas when you put the bar further down, the moment arm is lower, making it easier to lift with hip flexion. Compare a short torso with a low bar squat position doing good morning to a huge gangly fellow with the bar up at his neck. The huge gangly fellow is going to have a hell of a time because the moment arm for the bar is so far from his hip joint. | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On November 28 2014 22:36 IgnE wrote: No you don't. A low bar squat is a powerlifting style squat, and your shins remain relatively vertical compared to a high bar, oly style squat. You are probably right actually. My bad. I geuss i just worried a lot more about knees when i was doing high bar. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
Already down to 85kg from 88kg in 3 weeks, want to lose 1 more kg up until the meet. I've modified my training a bit and I feel my strength is as good or better than when I was 88. Thursday: Squat 190x2x3 BP training Today: DL: 250x1 (belt, no straps), 220x3x2 (no belt, straps), 200x3x2 Klokov Press: 45kgx10x3 Grip training | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On November 30 2014 03:35 Osmoses wrote: You posted twice yesterday and the day before that, holmes :p Gl though I think he meant regarding his workouts. And gl. What numbers are you expecting/hoping to hit at the meet? | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On November 30 2014 03:36 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: I think he meant regarding his workouts. And gl. What numbers are you expecting/hoping to hit at the meet? Yeah, I used to post what I did every day :[ I'm sure I can do 220/165/270 which would be pretty good. (S/B/DL) I'll be really happy with 230/170/280. I'll try 225 or 230 and 275 or 280 depending on how I feel. I might try another 2 kilos on the bench aswell, specially I'll get 6 attempts on 2 days lol. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20063 Posts
On November 30 2014 03:57 GoTuNk! wrote: Yeah, I used to post what I did every day :[ I'm sure I can do 220/165/270 which would be pretty good. (S/B/DL) I'll be really happy with 230/170/280. I'll try 225 or 230 and 275 or 280 depending on how I feel. I might try another 2 kilos on the bench aswell, specially I'll get 6 attempts on 2 days lol. Good luck! Tear it up. 280 would be sick | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Squats 6x10 (super ATG), 45,65,85,105,115,125lb (had to get the bar above my head since no squat rack) Bent over dumbbell rows 6x9-12, 25,30,35,40,40,45 Penlay Rows 5x8-12, 45,50,65,65,70 Bicep barbell curls 4x8 - 45,45,45,45 Sitting hammer curls 4x7-9 per arm, 20,20,20,15,15 (pretty bad I know, biceps were tired, and my form was not looking good on 20lb) Out forearm exercise: 5,7.5,7.5,7.5,10 (dumbbell) Standing wrist curls behind back: 45,65,75,85 Well, my lifts aren't showing it yet, but I'm happy that I haven't been missing workouts, and I'm keeping good form, still losing weight (hoping to lose weight at 1-1.5lb a week right now). I eat healthy, and I'm taking some protein powder here and there. Next session is shoulders and traps, maybe some assisted handstand push ups, maybe I can fit squats or dead lift in there as well. My first squat session I was limping for 2-3 days, today I feel good thus far, but I'll have to see how it goes. Do you guys think squats and dead lift are sufficient for lower body? Or do I need to worry about calf raised or hamstring curls or something? (I designed my gym with only squats and dead lift in mind). | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
Got a question, if anyone had similar problems/ knows leg-exercise types I will refer to, please help me out. So basically, i got a medical issue, + Show Spoiler + i really suck at medical expressions, so bare with me. It turns out i have problems with the cartilage in my kneekap (Chondromalacia Patella?) ever since i was born, my thigh bone (femur?) does not connect as it should to my kneecap, causing some kind of erosion to the cartilage. I noticed that it gives cracking sounds whenever i squat etc, first i thought im just rusty cuz i havent exercized for a while (and i vaguely recalled having it earlier too, so i wasnt worried, but after months going at it, the cracking insisted, so i went to see a doctor). The doctor told what i had, and was surprised i dindt have serious pains yet, but said that will eventually start anyways. So he prescribed some suppliments, some gel, and forbade me to squat and do any kind of leg exercize that involves puttin weight on my knees, and/or croocks my knees significantly. So i'm allowed pretty much exercizes that i can do with straight legs, of which i dont know many. Well, basically only the one for calves (standing calves exercize iirc?). Can anyone give me tips how to work legs, without any sort of squatting? | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On December 01 2014 19:37 Geo.Rion wrote: Hello guys! Got a question, if anyone had similar problems/ knows leg-exercise types I will refer to, please help me out. So basically, i got a medical issue, + Show Spoiler + i really suck at medical expressions, so bare with me. It turns out i have problems with the cartilage in my kneekap (Chondromalacia Patella?) ever since i was born, my thigh bone (femur?) does not connect as it should to my kneecap, causing some kind of erosion to the cartilage. I noticed that it gives cracking sounds whenever i squat etc, first i thought im just rusty cuz i havent exercized for a while (and i vaguely recalled having it earlier too, so i wasnt worried, but after months going at it, the cracking insisted, so i went to see a doctor). The doctor told what i had, and was surprised i dindt have serious pains yet, but said that will eventually start anyways. So he prescribed some suppliments, some gel, and forbade me to squat and do any kind of leg exercize that involves puttin weight on my knees, and/or croocks my knees significantly. So i'm allowed pretty much exercizes that i can do with straight legs, of which i dont know many. Well, basically only the one for calves (standing calves exercize iirc?). Can anyone give me tips how to work legs, without any sort of squatting? The glutes and hamstrings are relatively easy to work without bending your knees. The quads are pretty much impossible though. | ||
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