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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On December 01 2014 21:12 phyre112 wrote: The glutes and hamstrings are relatively easy to work without bending your knees. The quads are pretty much impossible though. Seems we will have a stiff legged deadlift specialist in the forum :D I would def get a second opinion, try to find a doctor with a background on treating sport related injuries. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20176 Posts
On December 01 2014 19:37 Geo.Rion wrote: Hello guys! Got a question, if anyone had similar problems/ knows leg-exercise types I will refer to, please help me out. So basically, i got a medical issue, + Show Spoiler + i really suck at medical expressions, so bare with me. It turns out i have problems with the cartilage in my kneekap (Chondromalacia Patella?) ever since i was born, my thigh bone (femur?) does not connect as it should to my kneecap, causing some kind of erosion to the cartilage. I noticed that it gives cracking sounds whenever i squat etc, first i thought im just rusty cuz i havent exercized for a while (and i vaguely recalled having it earlier too, so i wasnt worried, but after months going at it, the cracking insisted, so i went to see a doctor). The doctor told what i had, and was surprised i dindt have serious pains yet, but said that will eventually start anyways. So he prescribed some suppliments, some gel, and forbade me to squat and do any kind of leg exercize that involves puttin weight on my knees, and/or croocks my knees significantly. So i'm allowed pretty much exercizes that i can do with straight legs, of which i dont know many. Well, basically only the one for calves (standing calves exercize iirc?). Can anyone give me tips how to work legs, without any sort of squatting? Did you get X-Rays/MRI to diagnose this problem? No gel or supplement is going to fix what sounds like a structural problem. Life is going to put weight on your knees, you bend them every time you run or stand up from a chair. I would find a second opinion, preferably from a doctor that works with athletes. Sounds like you might have trochlear dysplasia and there are various ways to fix it: The treatment of trochlear dysplasia can be very difficult. Patients who have a lateral patellar dislocation have a much higher risk of recurrence when they have trochlear dysplasia. Because the severity of trochlea dysplasia can run from minor to severe, treatment options are also varied. They can include a reconstruction of the medial patellofemoral ligament, a tibial tubercle osteotomy, a trochleoplasty, where the distal aspect of the femur is cut and reshaped to create more of a normal groove, a distal femoral osteotomy, and other associated treatments. Thus, no one patient has the same treatment as another, and a thorough workup is necessary to determine the best course of action, if any, for a particular patient with trochlear dysplasia. Sounds like the whole process can take up to a year but could be worth it. If you just leave it the way it is it sounds like you'll be dealing with arthritis and not able to do anything athletic without pain for the rest of your life. disclaimer: i'm not a doctor take all this with a very large grain of salt. I'd advise getting a second opinion | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On December 02 2014 00:46 decafchicken wrote: Did you get X-Rays/MRI to diagnose this problem? No gel or supplement is going to fix what sounds like a structural problem. Life is going to put weight on your knees, you bend them every time you run or stand up from a chair. I would find a second opinion, preferably from a doctor that works with athletes. Sounds like you might have trochlear dysplasia and there are various ways to fix it: Sounds like the whole process can take up to a year but could be worth it. If you just leave it the way it is it sounds like you'll be dealing with arthritis and not able to do anything athletic without pain for the rest of your life. disclaimer: i'm not a doctor take all this with a very large grain of salt. I'd advise getting a second opinion Well, yes, gels and supplements wont fix it, that s for sure, the doctor did say as much, and that it will get worse since even climibing steps, etc puts weight on them, which builds up overtime. He said eventually i'll probably need some sort of prothesis (kneecap implant?), but since i'm not in pain right now and im too young, he does not recommend such a drastic procedure. The problem isnt a huge one, but a persistent one, in 24 years it didnt cause too much damage, just barely noticeable, it will get worse, but with band-aid solutions and paying attention it can be slowed down a lot. Anyway, a second opinion doesnt sound bad, might go for it soon | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:11 mordek wrote: Pulled the trigger on the YMCA membership. Here's to more lifting sessions and less Hearthstone over lunch breaks Healthy life choices! Make sure you get the moneys worth for it... Working out over lunch break, don't know if I could motivate myself to do that. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Healthy life choices! Make sure you get the moneys worth for it... Working out over lunch break, don't know if I could motivate myself to do that. The flexibility provided by the childcare will make it well worth it I imagine. I also get a company discount so that definitely helps. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Anyway, was fun. And I figured since I went and hurt myself and was gonna start my cut this month anyway I might as well keep doing that. Cutting or bulking I've only ever done strength routines, but this time I'd like to try a bodybuilding routine. Preferably one that includes or can somehow incorporate squats. Anyone here not a powerlifter? | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20176 Posts
Dips 4x8 Seated DB Press (40lb) superset skull crushers (65 lb) 4x8 Biceps tendonitis still bothers me sometimes. I'm seeing strength gains and able to work through it relatively pain free as long as I keep my rotators thoroughly engaged. I should probably stop press/go super light but on the other hand I think I might actually wither away and die if I can't press or squat remotely heavy. A month or two ago I barely manged like 4x6 dips and then a few sets of bench at 155 or something. Lol love reaping beginner gains on my neglected upper body. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On December 02 2014 06:06 Osmoses wrote: Back still hurts so I went light with higher reps today. Did the ol GVT 10x10. I guess I could've died, Anyway, was fun. And I figured since I went and hurt myself and was gonna start my cut this month anyway I might as well keep doing that. Cutting or bulking I've only ever done strength routines, but this time I'd like to try a bodybuilding routine. Preferably one that includes or can somehow incorporate squats. Anyone here not a powerlifter? Do PHAT'; it's the most fun bodybuilding split I've ever done. In other news, I vomited twice during training today but didn't feel that weak after. Still got a PB. Felt good that I can still push myself a little, although it shouldn't be a regular thing. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On December 02 2014 06:06 Osmoses wrote: Back still hurts so I went light with higher reps today. Did the ol GVT 10x10. I guess I could've died, Anyway, was fun. And I figured since I went and hurt myself and was gonna start my cut this month anyway I might as well keep doing that. Cutting or bulking I've only ever done strength routines, but this time I'd like to try a bodybuilding routine. Preferably one that includes or can somehow incorporate squats. Anyone here not a powerlifter? I'm a big believer in body building exercises for the upper body. Just don't you ever do french presses or cable crossovers. Fuck skull crushers aswell. Squats for legs, deadlifts and shrugs for back. SQ: 175kgx3x6 BP: 140x2x2, 150x2x2, 160x (my back slipped up wtf) I coached my gf into a 100kg deadlift, and I think she had 10kg more (crossfit non-crazy girl) She looked so cute I wanted to cry. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On December 02 2014 06:06 Osmoses wrote: Back still hurts so I went light with higher reps today. Did the ol GVT 10x10. I guess I could've died, Anyway, was fun. And I figured since I went and hurt myself and was gonna start my cut this month anyway I might as well keep doing that. Cutting or bulking I've only ever done strength routines, but this time I'd like to try a bodybuilding routine. Preferably one that includes or can somehow incorporate squats. Anyone here not a powerlifter? I've done various version of the rest-pause routine at http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=162992991 before and loved it. A+ highly recommend if you're looking for something VERY different from the standard recommendations of this thread. I'm actually doing an upper/lower rest-pause right now. Will post progress pics when I hit my bulking goal of 190 lbs at (hopefully) the end of january. Rest-Pause front squats are the worst best thing ever. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20176 Posts
Row 4x750m @ 2:45 each Deadlift 100kg 3x10 Single leg deadlifts, side leg raises, and clamshells for them glutes 30kg hang power snatches! Lol first time doing anything resembling an olympic lift in weeks http://instagram.com/p/wFpzLvQCMT/ On December 02 2014 09:43 GoTuNk! wrote: I'm a big believer in body building exercises for the upper body. Just don't you ever do french presses or cable crossovers. Fuck skull crushers aswell. Squats for legs, deadlifts and shrugs for back. SQ: 175kgx3x6 BP: 140x2x2, 150x2x2, 160x (my back slipped up wtf) I coached my gf into a 100kg deadlift, and I think she had 10kg more (crossfit non-crazy girl) She looked so cute I wanted to cry. Why no skull crushers/what would you do instead? Also, shrugs are gay. Do snatch pulls instead. Some kid at my work gym keeps trying to do behind the back upright rows. It looks as stupid as it sounds. I don't understand. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On December 03 2014 02:34 decafchicken wrote: Yesterday PM Row 4x750m @ 2:45 each Deadlift 100kg 3x10 Single leg deadlifts, side leg raises, and clamshells for them glutes 30kg hang power snatches! Lol first time doing anything resembling an olympic lift in weeks http://instagram.com/p/wFpzLvQCMT/ Why no skull crushers/what would you do instead? Also, shrugs are gay. Do snatch pulls instead. Some kid at my work gym keeps trying to do behind the back upright rows. It looks as stupid as it sounds. I don't understand. Skull crushers ruin elbows, because if you are strong enough you need a shitload of weight. Just like the leg extension machine ruins your knees when done heavy. I'm talking about heavy shrugs, not fag rows. Edit: 77.5kg muscle snatch in the morning :D Edit 2: lol dummbell shrugs. To me that's like doing bodyweight squats and thinking you are working your leg volume because you feel the "pump" User was warned for this post | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On December 03 2014 03:57 mordek wrote: Snatch pull is just the second pull in a snatch, right? Snatch pull is essentially just a deadlift with a snatch grip. If you're just doing the 2nd pull you can call it a hang snatch pull or snatch pull from hang. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20176 Posts
On December 03 2014 04:00 GoTuNk! wrote: Skull crushers ruin elbows, because if you are strong enough you need a shitload of weight. Just like the leg extension machine ruins your knees when done heavy. I'm talking about heavy shrugs, not fag rows. http://youtu.be/iS1unZ44ELk Edit: 77.5kg muscle snatch in the morning :D Edit 2: lol dummbell shrugs. To me that's like doing bodyweight squats and thinking you are working your leg volume because you feel the "pump" Pfft that just looks like humping the bar in rhythym to it's oscillation. Snatch pulls way more practical Just do em lighter from the hang with a pause at the top for reps and your traps/shoulders/back/everything will get huge. And you won't look like you're taking it from behind while strapped to a bar that's way too heavy for you. Instead you'll get dem Lu traps | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On December 03 2014 04:24 decafchicken wrote: Pfft that just looks like humping the bar in rhythym to it's oscillation. Snatch pulls way more practical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lny5dF4z228 Just do em lighter from the hang with a pause at the top for reps and your traps/shoulders/back/everything will get huge. And you won't look like you're taking it from behind while strapped to a bar that's way too heavy for you. Instead you'll get dem Lu traps Most people do not have the technical profficiency to stimulateir upper body properly with a snatch. It is my experience that you grow like weed and strengthen your deadlift with that movement: triples with my deadlift max followed by a set of 20/30 reps with 200kg. The guy on the video is a fomer squat and world record holder at 181. (zatic :p) It's cool we have different opinions; to increase my snatch I would do what lu is doing there. | ||
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