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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 05 2014 02:41 GMT
#3281
Too much hate on bodybuilding. That's pretty much all I do nowadays, and I'm still pretty strong. Everyone should be switching out of that tedious starting strength template as soon as they can.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 05 2014 06:34 GMT
#3282
Even the Chinese weightlifters do some upper body bodybuilding. Partly as a break but also to strengthen some of the smaller muscles that aren't used as much in the olympic movements.

I don't think anyone would say a bodybuilder is weak, unless your standard for strong is top level power athletes.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
December 05 2014 08:25 GMT
#3283
On December 05 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:
Too much hate on bodybuilding. That's pretty much all I do nowadays, and I'm still pretty strong. Everyone should be switching out of that tedious starting strength template as soon as they can.

Agreed 100%. BB training is super fun as well. 24 hours before the final selection for heavyweight, pretty nervous >.<
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 05 2014 08:30 GMT
#3284
Bodybuilding also just safer once you start approaching advanced level weights like 350/500/600lbs for the longterm.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
December 05 2014 08:31 GMT
#3285
Relax, as if Gotunk poking fun at decaf is "hating".
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
December 05 2014 13:01 GMT
#3286
Not every reader of the thread would know that, but they should I think it's clear now.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 14:15:42
December 05 2014 14:13 GMT
#3287
Haha yeah not actually hating on BB.

On December 05 2014 15:34 Najda wrote:
Even the Chinese weightlifters do some upper body bodybuilding. Partly as a break but also to strengthen some of the smaller muscles that aren't used as much in the olympic movements.

I don't think anyone would say a bodybuilder is weak, unless your standard for strong is top level power athletes.


Pretty much every weightlifter does some degree of "bodybuilding" or non specific sport strength as a form of pre-hab and GPP
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 14:36:14
December 05 2014 14:34 GMT
#3288
On December 05 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:
Too much hate on bodybuilding. That's pretty much all I do nowadays, and I'm still pretty strong. Everyone should be switching out of that tedious starting strength template as soon as they can.


Yeah I hate that low volume template aswell, was poking fun on decaf. BB assistance has a place on the training on any powerlifting, oly lifting and *gasp* crossfit athlete.

I do hate the "texas method" where you go from low volume to lower volume.

That said, if I didn't squat/bench/deadlift regularly I might aswell skip the gym
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
December 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#3289
On December 05 2014 23:34 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 11:41 IgnE wrote:
Too much hate on bodybuilding. That's pretty much all I do nowadays, and I'm still pretty strong. Everyone should be switching out of that tedious starting strength template as soon as they can.


Yeah I hate that low volume template aswell, was poking fun on decaf. BB assistance has a place on the training on any powerlifting, oly lifting and *gasp* crossfit athlete.

I do hate the "texas method" where you go from low volume to lower volume.

That said, if I didn't squat/bench/deadlift regularly I might aswell skip the gym


If you didn't squat/bench/deadlift regularly I would hunt you down.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 05 2014 20:44 GMT
#3290
So, I know low-carb diets are the best for losing weight, but how low should I really be going if I'm doing a high-volume routine like PHAT at the same time?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
December 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#3291
Is this even true?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#3292
On December 06 2014 05:44 Osmoses wrote:
So, I know low-carb diets are the best for losing weight, but how low should I really be going if I'm doing a high-volume routine like PHAT at the same time?

Keep your overall calories restricted since you're cutting, but if you find yourself running out of energy halfway through a workout you're probably not eating enough carbs.

If you're not eating enough carbs, your protein intake is just going to get converted to carbohydrates through gluconeogenesis - especially if you've got a big energy demand being regularly placed on your muscles, so eating too few carbs is definitely counter productive.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 06 2014 17:53 GMT
#3293
DL 240kgx1(belt, no strap), 225x3 (straps, beltless)
Klokov Press 50kgx7x4
BB Rows 70kgx12x3
BB Finger Curls

BW at 84 now, strong as ever but no stamina at all lol.
240 was ez, will recomp and open at 250 for sure and then go for the big boy weights in the DL.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 19:36:23
December 06 2014 19:36 GMT
#3294
Well, I've been training at this new gym for a solid two weeks or so now. The owner has me doing more bro-stuff, since he is sponsored by Optimum Nutrition and is basically a bodybuilder (he writes for bodybuilding.com and is friends with a lot of famous bodybuilders like Kai Greene), but I'm actually kind of enjoying what I'm doing, at least more than Starting Strength. Today I'm pretty sure I did box squats, hack squats (basically a machine that simulates high bar squatting), RDL, leg extensions, and leg curls with some mobility/foam rolling as a warm up.

It was hard to get back into lifting and I puked for the first time ever during training after a few sets of prowler sprints, but my work capacity has gone up tremendously and I am enjoying the additional isolation work.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 20:40:32
December 06 2014 20:36 GMT
#3295
LOL. I gym today too after 2 weeks none and still feel like puking after a nap. All I done was tricep abs

U will know wen ur not getting enuff carbs coz u will want to kill someone. Buy 12x apples pears bananas and ull be fine so long as u go to them instead of the takeaway
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
December 06 2014 21:07 GMT
#3296
I'd be highly cautious with accepting the advice of someone who writes for bb.com; as a veteran of that site, I can say with total certainty that I've never once read a useful or insightful article on bb.com lol. They are shameless marketers above all else, so keep that in mind.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 22:11:12
December 06 2014 22:07 GMT
#3297
On December 07 2014 06:07 farvacola wrote:
I'd be highly cautious with accepting the advice of someone who writes for bb.com; as a veteran of that site, I can say with total certainty that I've never once read a useful or insightful article on bb.com lol. They are shameless marketers above all else, so keep that in mind.

Yeah, I'm trying out the gym. I actually thought about PMing you if you know the guy, and I might do it anyway just to see if you actually do know him. He seems to have some idea what he's doing (he has a M.S. in Anatomy and Kinesiology and isn't having me do dumbass shit like squatting on a bosu ball), but he is having me do more BB type stuff.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 22:46:30
December 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#3298
He might very well be the exception to the rule, and one can hope that the site has improved since I became less active there. I've been on a bb with a touch of powerlifting program for 4 years or so, save for some deloading/boxing breaks, and I've found that it jives the best with my lifting profile, so he may not be leading you astray.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
December 07 2014 16:35 GMT
#3299
If you missed the good BF deals, there's one more chance. At 840pm EST (I think... could be pst... awkward website design), Amazon will be putting an entry-level Powerline power rack up for sale. I got this unit off craigslist and really like it. Perfect for the garage lifter if your ceiling can handle it.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 08 2014 01:43 GMT
#3300
Hit 2 plates for the first time today on squat. Last time I tried was 7-8 months ago before I left on my backpacking trip and lost a lot of weight. Couldn't even do 1 rep, but it was somewhat close.

Today I went for a 1RM and got it without straining myself too much. Felt good so I went for 2 more and got them both. I think I could have gotten a 4th if I really pushed, but it was at the start of my workout so I didn't want to strain myself too much for the rest.

Max squat at the beginning of the year was around 1.5 plates. At 2 now which was my year goal, might try a bit higher next week.
Max DL at the beginning of the year was 2 plates. Was able to get 2 and a 25 last time (8 months ago) which was my year goal, gonna go for 300lbs this week.
Max bench was and still is terrible. Was basically a plate and a 5 at the beginning of the year, wanted 1 plate and a 25 before the end of the year but sitting at 1 plate and 20 right now... gotta push it this month.

So 2/3 year goals so far

tl;dr fuck yeah but my bench is still terribad. Really happy with squats today though.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
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