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On April 24 2014 05:42 Copymizer wrote:
20+ shots for a header with 18 of them denied. why did bayern keep trying with the ball in over to header when it didn't work for the 15th time lol
The way Guardiola wants to play is a lot about controlling the second ball, which Bayern does well and it gives them more possession. It just doesn't pose a threat so I personally hate it. They do this every game.
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A good game worth my 1000st post wuhuuu!
I guess Pep was 90 minutes thinking "my left eye for Thiago". Bayern 60 minutes stronger but not enough firepower in the last third of the field, Real with more ball possetion in the second half but less chances. An overall deserved victory, 1-1 would be ok too i guess. The pnealty i dont know it was like 30/70 to give not clear enough for a CL semi. Also big credit to Webb, only 1 yellow card and just a great ref. Will be an intersting second leg.
Good ones: Robben, Alaba, Pepe and Modric
Bad ones: Ribery, Isco
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Pepe was man of the match imo, he defended super well
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On April 24 2014 05:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
A good game worth my 1000st post wuhuuu!
I guess Pep was 90 minutes thinking "my left eye for Thiago". Bayern 60 minutes stronger but not enough firepower in the last third of the field, Real with more ball possetion in the second half but less chances. An overall deserved victory, 1-1 would be ok too i guess. The pnealty i dont know it was like 30/70 to give not clear enough for a CL semi. Also big credit to Webb, only 1 yellow card and just a great ref. Will be an intersting second leg.
Good ones: Robben, Alaba, Pepe and Modric
Bad ones: Ribery, Isco
I disagree that 1-1 would be OK imo, i think 2-0 Real would be the outcome most deserved. Bayern didnt have a single really good attempt, they had 1 or 2 shots who barely got to the goal. Real could have led by 3-0 in the first half already.
And the penalty wasnt one, if you give that penalty you have to give 7 every game for the slightest contact
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On April 24 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 05:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
A good game worth my 1000st post wuhuuu!
I guess Pep was 90 minutes thinking "my left eye for Thiago". Bayern 60 minutes stronger but not enough firepower in the last third of the field, Real with more ball possetion in the second half but less chances. An overall deserved victory, 1-1 would be ok too i guess. The pnealty i dont know it was like 30/70 to give not clear enough for a CL semi. Also big credit to Webb, only 1 yellow card and just a great ref. Will be an intersting second leg.
Good ones: Robben, Alaba, Pepe and Modric
Bad ones: Ribery, Isco I disagree that 1-1 would be OK imo, i think 2-0 Real would be the outcome most deserved. Bayern didnt have a single really good attempt, they had 1 or 2 shots who barely got to the goal. Real could have led by 3-0 in the first half already. And the penalty wasnt one, if you give that penalty you have to give 7 every game for the slightest contact
I agree that the penalty shouldnt be called, just not enough contact. There were chances for Bayern like the Kroos shot in the first, Götzes shot and Müllers "almost" penalty. 1-0 is ok but 1-1 would be also.
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On April 24 2014 06:02 Micro_Jackson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:On April 24 2014 05:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
A good game worth my 1000st post wuhuuu!
I guess Pep was 90 minutes thinking "my left eye for Thiago". Bayern 60 minutes stronger but not enough firepower in the last third of the field, Real with more ball possetion in the second half but less chances. An overall deserved victory, 1-1 would be ok too i guess. The pnealty i dont know it was like 30/70 to give not clear enough for a CL semi. Also big credit to Webb, only 1 yellow card and just a great ref. Will be an intersting second leg.
Good ones: Robben, Alaba, Pepe and Modric
Bad ones: Ribery, Isco I disagree that 1-1 would be OK imo, i think 2-0 Real would be the outcome most deserved. Bayern didnt have a single really good attempt, they had 1 or 2 shots who barely got to the goal. Real could have led by 3-0 in the first half already. And the penalty wasnt one, if you give that penalty you have to give 7 every game for the slightest contact I agree that the penalty shouldnt be called, just not enough contact. There were chances for Bayern like the Kroos shot in the first, Götzes shot and Müllers "almost" penalty. 1-0 is ok but 1-1 would be also.
Well we disagree on this one 
Considering Reals chances i'd give them a 2-0 over a 1-1, but i can see your point 
No matter what, its 1-0, and i hope Bayern will 2-0 or 3-1 in the second game
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To be honest Real were very unimpressive, the chances they had were more a product of Bayern's errors and some random through balls than of well constructed moves.
Bayern are just lacking in goal threat. Now you see how awesome Ribery was last year. When he plays bad Bayern do hardly get any chances despite dominating the game. Robben alone is not enough. Robben and Ribery together made Bayern so dangerous.
Great game by Alaba and Pepe imo.
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On April 24 2014 06:02 Micro_Jackson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:On April 24 2014 05:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
A good game worth my 1000st post wuhuuu!
I guess Pep was 90 minutes thinking "my left eye for Thiago". Bayern 60 minutes stronger but not enough firepower in the last third of the field, Real with more ball possetion in the second half but less chances. An overall deserved victory, 1-1 would be ok too i guess. The pnealty i dont know it was like 30/70 to give not clear enough for a CL semi. Also big credit to Webb, only 1 yellow card and just a great ref. Will be an intersting second leg.
Good ones: Robben, Alaba, Pepe and Modric
Bad ones: Ribery, Isco I disagree that 1-1 would be OK imo, i think 2-0 Real would be the outcome most deserved. Bayern didnt have a single really good attempt, they had 1 or 2 shots who barely got to the goal. Real could have led by 3-0 in the first half already. And the penalty wasnt one, if you give that penalty you have to give 7 every game for the slightest contact I agree that the penalty shouldnt be called, just not enough contact. There were chances for Bayern like the Kroos shot in the first, Götzes shot and Müllers "almost" penalty. 1-0 is ok but 1-1 would be also.
I totally admit that I'm not objective and want Real to win in Germany for once.
That said: How was that an "almost" penalty? That was as much a penalty as a throw-in.
I couldn't see the first half but liked the 2nd one although everybody says the first 45 minutes were better. With Bayern you have to accept that they can score any minute so it was a tense game. Should be a good 2nd leg in munich.
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On April 24 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 05:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
A good game worth my 1000st post wuhuuu!
I guess Pep was 90 minutes thinking "my left eye for Thiago". Bayern 60 minutes stronger but not enough firepower in the last third of the field, Real with more ball possetion in the second half but less chances. An overall deserved victory, 1-1 would be ok too i guess. The pnealty i dont know it was like 30/70 to give not clear enough for a CL semi. Also big credit to Webb, only 1 yellow card and just a great ref. Will be an intersting second leg.
Good ones: Robben, Alaba, Pepe and Modric
Bad ones: Ribery, Isco I disagree that 1-1 would be OK imo, i think 2-0 Real would be the outcome most deserved. Bayern didnt have a single really good attempt, they had 1 or 2 shots who barely got to the goal. Real could have led by 3-0 in the first half already. And the penalty wasnt one, if you give that penalty you have to give 7 every game for the slightest contact
Götze had a very good chance. But yeah, it wasn't a penalty,
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I think 1-0 is a very fair result really. 1-1 wouldn't have been out of line either. Bayern had 2 good goal scoring chances (Goetze miss and Robben blocked shot by I think Alonso) while Real had 3 good chances to score including Ronaldo's offside one. Real just more penetrative in general so I think a 1-0 is fair. If Bayern dominate possession again in Munich though I'd be worried for Real. Eventually some of those half chances are going to go in or Robben or someone else will create some real magic and break through that defense.
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the thing is:
a 0:1 is not a big deal
Real Madrid surely does not feel safe at all. This is basically pretty even still. Can go either way in the Allianz Arena next week.
50/50
A bit dissapointed by Bayern. Thiago is so important for them. I underestimated his importance - a lot.
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should have fielded Müller from start. interestingly he was used as CAM, so Müller now officially has to play 4 different positions for Bayern.
game was ok
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On April 24 2014 06:58 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
the thing is:
a 0:1 is not a big deal
Real Madrid surely does not feel safe at all. This is basically pretty even still. Can go either way in the Allianz Arena next week.
50/50
A bit dissapointed by Bayern. Thiago is so important for them. I underestimated his importance - a lot.
1-0 is the best result Real could have hoped for. A 3-0 lead and they get cocky just like vs BVB again.
But no one ever feels safe with 1-0 so they will play 100%. Thiago isn't the problem. It's the one dimensional approach of Guardiola
Bayern destroyed teams last year without Thiago. Thiago is just a convenient excuse for fans
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1-0 vs Bayern is not safe at all, what are you people saying. Surely it is better than 0-0 but not by much tbh (although miles better than 1-1), you would expect Bayern to play with much more intensity at home and Real had an unusually stout defensive game today (also Iker Casillas is a hero)
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Don't really think Guardiola is one dimensional per se. Every good coach has a philosophy he follows and it can seem rigid at times. When opposing teams park the bus so completely it becomes difficult to really produce anything. Teams have figured out it's just better to park the bus and hope to nick something on the counter rather then try to play and inevitably lose, usually badly. It's really down to the players to break a defensive team, not much Pep can do about it. The players are just lacking a cutting edge right now.
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On April 24 2014 04:49 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 04:48 Usagi wrote:On April 24 2014 04:44 Micro_Jackson wrote:On April 24 2014 04:41 Usagi wrote:
Bayern should get Messi this summer. Besides, Pep is the only one who can get that kid in line to play well!
Yea good idea! I heared Batman could be available too. That would be even more awesome =D Especially for Bayern cause they already have his sidekick Robben
awesome
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On April 24 2014 05:42 Pantagruel wrote:
It feels like Robben is the only one who causes danger for Bayern lately and he is just getting walled off by defenders whenever he touches the ball. Honestly, Bayern is just to ponderous in attack which allows opposing defense to set up very well. It's gonna be an interesting game in Munich. Not sure Bayern have enough in them to win it.
Bayern just discovered what its like when top teams start respecting them and play on the counter.
Real could probably have played this game aggressively and still won but it worked so no argument there.
O and while were at it, I strongly strongly disagree with Lahm playing midfield, he is to fucking beast of a defender on the counter.
I get the idea since he can player cover and his high football IQ means he plays always going to be there to steel up breaks
Problem is there was no need to whizz the ball around in midfield and they played the entire game in the opponents third anyway
Schweini can easily do that, hes not as interested in the pass and move and likes to hold it a bit and probe so this game was tailor made for him to spray at around from deep
Lahm's recovery skills are ridiculous and you could have another cover midfielder and play him in a more aggressive role outside because Robben will get hounded to death both legs, and since they were that far up anyway it doesnt put Lahm into useless territory defensively either.
Not having Thiago or Martinez kinda made it more difficult but Rafinha is so average and provides nothing to this team.
Oh well
Advantage Real it would be quite a slap in Mou's face if they do the treble and that 100 million will be so far vindicated its not even funny decima and a treble.
I dont hate Real Madrid but man its a scary thought ...
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On April 24 2014 08:57 Pantagruel wrote:
Don't really think Guardiola is one dimensional per se. Every good coach has a philosophy he follows and it can seem rigid at times. When opposing teams park the bus so completely it becomes difficult to really produce anything. Teams have figured out it's just better to park the bus and hope to nick something on the counter rather then try to play and inevitably lose, usually badly. It's really down to the players to break a defensive team, not much Pep can do about it. The players are just lacking a cutting edge right now.
He has the world's best full back in the world and puts him at DM... Do you know why? Because he wants a Busquets sort of player in Bayern. I understood Lahm in DM when Pep was running out of them but other than that?
There are worlds apart between Rafinha+Robben and Lahm+Robben. Real didn't bother defending vs Rafinha at all. They were able to put all their concentration on Robben alone. Lahm is also a crossing beast which he isn't allowed to show under Guardiola.
Putting Lahm as DM and Kroos as CAM (instead of Kroos as DM, Lahm RB, Mueller as CAM) shows that he gave Real way too much respect.
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