If there's really a 100million € offer by Real and Bale wants to leave, then maybe it's time for Tottenham to let go. I guess more players will insist on release clauses in the future
How do we know that Bale is distraught? There's only one quote in that article, and it's from AVB.
Besides, weren't the articles the other day saying that Bale was set to extend his contract? There's so much bullshit going around right now.
On July 28 2013 07:13 Ysellian wrote: € 100million offer for Bale? Surely Tottenham didn't reject such an offer :/ He's not that good.
Consider this: without Bale, Spurs have no chance of CL qualification this season. Even if Levy reinvests all the money into replacements, the squad will be a mess just like the start of last season. Perez will have to pay for that lost CL revenue. Moreover, Bale is now THE face of the premier league. His image has been in Times Square, he's doing all the things with BT, etc. Bale shirt sales and other advertising will be through the roof this season, and that will have to be compensated as well. Lastly, Perez will have to pay a premium for his disgusting media campaign aimed at unsettling Bale (using Marca and Zidane).
I have no idea how much that all adds up to, but it's astronomical.
100 million €? look at what dortmund can do with a lot less money, that should give some people to think.
Man last season Spurs with Bale were looking like Arsenal with RVP the season before. I would be pretty surprised if, even with reinvesting the Bale money, Spurs managed to get back to the position Harry got them to two seasons ago.
Then again, adding two £40 million players in his stead might not be a bad thing. Trouble in football now is that it seems there is a certain level of player you are competing with masses of ludicrously rich entities to sign - and therefore the prices are massively inflated for 'A+' players. You can either go down the Tottenham/Liverpool route and stock up on 'A-/A' talent, but is that really going to get you the extra league positions?
There really aren't that many *available* 40 million pound and legit A+ caliber players out there. So even though you might think you can do a lot with €100 million, I would imagine that the combination of the necessity to buy players who are proven A+ quality and also the fact that you will always be overcharged being the moneybags means you have to go pretty crazy to get what you want. And with Barca getting Neymar I can see how RM need a new marquee signing. To be honest the squad is doesn't look that strong without Ronaldo. Anyway I thought the whole modric to tottenham thing was a part of a 'relationship' between Spurs and RM. Pretty amusing if Levy had no actual intention of entering into any such agreement.
In other news for those interested, Ajax won the Dutch Supercup over cup winners AZ. Ajax was down 0-2 in the second half (first half finished 0-0) but managed to score 2 goals and another in extra time.
Now I'm just gonna hope the curse of the Supercup doesn't hold up. Supercup winner haven't become league champions since 2001 or so. They are huge favorites this year though.
I know the situations are different but when Ronaldo left Man Utd he was far more accomplished than Bale and maybe even a better player. He may not have been worth as much to Man Utd as Bale is to Tottenham but to break the world transfer record for a player who's really only had one great season is preposterous. I agree 100 million isn't as easy to re-invest as it sounds and for Spurs it's all about CL or nothing. Without Bale they will have no scoring threat especially now that Dempsey will probably leave. Many of the top transfer targets have already made their move.
Easy friendly for Barcelona, but we can see that Messi is already in the top of his game Nice to see Alexis having a (very) good game too, and Dongou, the "New Eto'o" scored his first 2 goals with the first team. This kid is going to be Barça's 9 someday! Awesome player.
On July 28 2013 12:45 zulu_nation8 wrote: I know the situations are different but when Ronaldo left Man Utd he was far more accomplished than Bale and maybe even a better player. He may not have been worth as much to Man Utd as Bale is to Tottenham but to break the world transfer record for a player who's really only had one great season is preposterous. I agree 100 million isn't as easy to re-invest as it sounds and for Spurs it's all about CL or nothing. Without Bale they will have no scoring threat especially now that Dempsey will probably leave. Many of the top transfer targets have already made their move.
Why is it preposterous? This is a business and Perez buys assets, not players. He recouped the money he spent on Ronaldo within a year. Bale probably won't generate revenue quite as fast as a Ballon d'Or winner, but he'll end up making money for Madrid before too long. I don't think anyone seriously believes that Bale is worth €100m based solely on his performance.
On July 28 2013 13:20 zulu_nation8 wrote: He'd be an Englishman playing in Spain, probably won't be more marketable than Ronaldo.
I never said Bale would be more marketable than Ronaldo...in fact I said the opposite. However, he doesn't need to be more marketable than Ronaldo to justify the price tag. He just needs to end up paying for his transfer fee and then generating profit. I don't know if these 100m rumors are true, but Perez wouldn't offer an amount like that unless he thought he would get it back.
Also Bale is not English, but I understand what you mean.
Yet Madrid made a profit of 31M€ that year Neo, not much different from preceding years. So it's not that far fetched to assume Ronaldo generated a lot of money.
On July 28 2013 05:57 USvBleakill wrote: Very interesting game. Obviusly a pre season game without real value and 4:2 is too high. It looked kind of the Pokalfinal 2012.
Some things that catched my eye:
Aubameyang could be a fantastic pick up and be the perfect offensive player for dortmunds already scary transition game. Dortmund was physically very strong for the temputre and the fact that the season hasnt begun.
Tom Starke is not Manuel Neuer Thiago is not a 6. He is a 8. Offensivly he is insanely good (man this pass to Müller) but you could see clearly that he had problems in the defense if the opponent gets behind the first press wave or they loss the ball in the forward moving. This will be fixed by itself because i think in league games Schweinsteiger will play on the 6 (wayyy stronger defensivly) and in the CL Martinez will most likely play this position. Bayern has the best offense of the planet and will rip apart the Bundesliga offensivly. If they get used to the "new" system they could score 100+ goals this season because the average league team just cant defend things like the tiago pass.
I also found the Dante substitution interesting but the game was too short too really see what guardiola wanted to do.
Dortmund is the team that makes Thiago look the worsst as a 6 imo. I don't think any other team can pressure the center midfield as hard as BVB can and with no other midfield player to help him he is totally lost.
That lost them the game I think and guardiola has to find a solution to this and I can't imagine which place Thiago has in this solution. If he thinks that 4-3-3 or 4-1-4-1 with Thiago as a 6 works just because he rolls over Bundesliga than I don't think Bayern will be sucessful against BVB, Chalsea or Barca this season.
I dont see it this dark with tiago on the 6 (i think he is just a better 8). It could be potentialy the oppsite because tiago is very good at passing under pressure situations.
You have to remember some things: Tiago is in Munich for how long? A week? He clearly isnt used to every player (yet) you could see this at the last Dortmund goal. This was maybe the "run ´n gun" formation, with Mandzukic, Robben, Shakiri, and Müller which are all players who always search the way to the goal. In a formation with Schweinsteiger Götze and Ribery they will not turn the ball over in critical fieldpositions this much which will help the 6 (tiago) a lot. The press and counterpress didn´t work at all because it wasn enough movement, this was more of a (preseason) physical and temputre problem then a personel problem.
On July 28 2013 13:10 WillyWanker wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le0O7y4ukd8 Easy friendly for Barcelona, but we can see that Messi is already in the top of his game Nice to see Alexis having a (very) good game too, and Dongou, the "New Eto'o" scored his first 2 goals with the first team. This kid is going to be Barça's 9 someday! Awesome player.
so against Bayern the game was worthless and against some noob club you suddenly see the next etoo and messi on form? haha
On July 28 2013 13:10 WillyWanker wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le0O7y4ukd8 Easy friendly for Barcelona, but we can see that Messi is already in the top of his game Nice to see Alexis having a (very) good game too, and Dongou, the "New Eto'o" scored his first 2 goals with the first team. This kid is going to be Barça's 9 someday! Awesome player.
so against Bayern the game was worthless and against some noob club you suddenly see the next etoo and messi on form? haha
Well, at least in last night match didn't play the Barcelona C team xDDDD (I really didn't know almost anyone in the second half against Bayern)
On July 28 2013 17:44 sharkie wrote: so against Bayern the game was worthless and against some noob club you suddenly see the next etoo and messi on form? haha
Hater or troll? I think I will never know what you really are...
Sorry, but 100 millions € for Bale must be some bullshit. Unless there are ridiculous thrid-party clauses in his contract we know nothing about, this would a be no-brainer sale for Tottenham, providing their chairman can use a calculator and basic logic.
According to this source, the highest earning clubs in Champions League make about 50 millions € max during one season (not always dependant on performance, sometimes individual broadcasting deals mean more). It seems quite reliable - I googled around and the income reports from last year were of comparable dimensions. Even if Premier League benefits are quite similar, let's not forget that selling Bale is ultimately selling 1 player out of 11 the team can field. I'm pretty sure they can sign someone for 20-25 millions who can be a fairly decent replacement. So in conclusion, the odds of losing more cash from Bale's departure than the the bid+no longer paid wages & bonuses are slim. Maybe in 2-3 seasons Spurs could have such loss, but then, who knows how good Bale is going to be in 2-3 years?
I think the desire at Spurs and of Levy to finish over Arsenal and land a top 4 is so strong. And without Bale I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped below Liverpool. Although they still have Defoe who is criminally underrated (one of the best strikers in the prem no doubt), I wouldn't say any of their new boys really improved Harry's Spurs.
Who could they legitimately buy to replace Bale that's the thing? Fact is that right now players are harder to obtain than money. When you have a league where Andy Carroll can be bought for £35 million, you have to be aware that spending money to get 'proven' quality is both risky and extortionate...I mean realistically you could try and swoop for Reus but how much would Dortmund be willing to sell him for? Who else actually is there on the market?
However none of this precludes the fact that perhaps such an offer has not been made or that Levy is not in the process of accepting it.
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