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Oh wow, those scenes in Lisbon. Amazing. Guys calm down, Mourinho is the greatest manager in modern football. Not that much too talk about. Thats it, he is the best.
Him compleatly embarrassing Barcelona when they were the best team in the world many many times has obviously had its effect on people.
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The only one Mourinho embarrasses is himself.
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Bahahaha embarrassed Barça he says xD Not even 33% winrate vs them, losing 5-0 once, less titles, completely destroyed Madrid's image. He was Barça's hero, don't get fooled.
What Mou is really good at is mindgames. He convinced some of Madrid players that the Barça catalans hated them for political reasons, and apparently a lot of other people that he is indeed a great coach. Of course some of the players aren't all that great minds themselves and actually bought it, even when they were friends at the national team. Some examples were Arbeloa stepping on Pedro while on the floor, Ramos pushing Puyol to the ground by the face... Hell Xabi Alonso is supposed the "señorio" image of spain (lols) and still believes that crap. That's why Xavi, Iniesta and Busi can't stand him. Moudrid was the anti fair play team, and people who think the eye poke was a cool badass move are the same dumbasses who think Ari Gold or Dr House are actual heros to imitate in real life, that being a douche will lead to success and wealth, instead of the other way around.
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The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.
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On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.
And almost all Real Madrid fans too.
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On April 21 2014 20:15 Salteador Neo wrote: Bahahaha embarrassed Barça he says xD Not even 33% winrate vs them, losing 5-0 once, less titles, completely destroyed Madrid's image. He was Barça's hero, don't get fooled.
What Mou is really good at is mindgames. He convinced some of Madrid players that the Barça catalans hated them for political reasons, and apparently a lot of other people that he is indeed a great coach. Of course some of the players aren't all that great minds themselves and actually bought it, even when they were friends at the national team. Some examples were Arbeloa stepping on Pedro while on the floor, Ramos pushing Puyol to the ground by the face... Hell Xabi Alonso is supposed the "señorio" image of spain (lols) and still believes that crap. That's why Xavi, Iniesta and Busi can't stand him. Moudrid was the anti fair play team, and people who think the eye poke was a cool badass move are the same dumbasses who think Ari Gold or Dr House are actual heros to imitate in real life, that being a douche will lead to success and wealth, instead of the other way around.
How about you just watch the football instead of some weird tv-drama
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On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his. And almost all Real Madrid fans too. Source please
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On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his. And almost all Real Madrid fans too. Source please 
I live in Spain? xD
Almost all Real Madrid Mou fans that I know are radical or ultra supporters. Most R.Madrid fans don't want him to come back in the future.
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everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.
There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.
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On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his. And almost all Real Madrid fans too. Source please  Whats your source zeo?
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On April 21 2014 18:40 zeo wrote: Oh wow, those scenes in Lisbon. Amazing. Guys calm down, Mourinho is the greatest manager in modern football. Not that much too talk about. Thats it, he is the best.
Him compleatly embarrassing Barcelona when they were the best team in the world many many times has obviously had its effect on people. I agree heh.
He is the most popular coach in the world. He brings popularity to wherever he go. He makes football more watchable with his personality el classicos were much more enjoyable when Mourinho was there imo.
simply the best~
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On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote: everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.
There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.
I think his reputation in Spain has also something to do with Real and its rivaly against Barca. On one side the "Rebels" with Barca and its local, nice players and their philosophical coaches and on the other side the "empire" with foreign mercenarys, guys like Ramos and Pepe and the Darth Vader of coaches.
I think there is even a "real life" thing with that with the spain dictatorship and Mou fitted pretty good into this stereotype.
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On April 21 2014 20:15 Salteador Neo wrote: Bahahaha embarrassed Barça he says xD Not even 33% winrate vs them, losing 5-0 once, less titles, completely destroyed Madrid's image. He was Barça's hero, don't get fooled.
What Mou is really good at is mindgames. He convinced some of Madrid players that the Barça catalans hated them for political reasons, and apparently a lot of other people that he is indeed a great coach. Of course some of the players aren't all that great minds themselves and actually bought it, even when they were friends at the national team. Some examples were Arbeloa stepping on Pedro while on the floor, Ramos pushing Puyol to the ground by the face... Hell Xabi Alonso is supposed the "señorio" image of spain (lols) and still believes that crap. That's why Xavi, Iniesta and Busi can't stand him. Moudrid was the anti fair play team, and people who think the eye poke was a cool badass move are the same dumbasses who think Ari Gold or Dr House are actual heros to imitate in real life, that being a douche will lead to success and wealth, instead of the other way around.
Nobody thinks the eye poke was cool, in fact everyone who likes mourinho generally think that this was the one time where he really fucked up and crossed the line.
And prior to his spell at real, he had faced barcelona 3 times, 1-1 with chelsea and beat them with inter - beating them with squads that were quite frankly inferior. During his spell at real, he started out being dominated by them in the first season, (but Real Madrid had lost 4 clasicos in a row before mourinho entered), and then after his team gelled they went like 3-2-3 in the next 8 matches).
Basically the notion that barca embarassed mourinho or the other way around is just silly, mourinho has performed well against them with all teams he has managed but it hasn't been any type of dominance, which is logical as barcelona has overall been the best team in the world of the past decade and no matter how great you are as a manager you can't consistently dominate the best team in the world.
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On April 21 2014 21:17 kyllinghest wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his. And almost all Real Madrid fans too. Source please  Whats your source zeo?  I'm confused, I have to have a source to claim a source is needed? Or that he is the best manager in the world?
Tomorrow he will overtake Sir Alex as the manager with the most semi-final appearances in the champions league... ever. Nuff' said.
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On April 21 2014 21:43 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 21:17 kyllinghest wrote:On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his. And almost all Real Madrid fans too. Source please  Whats your source zeo?  I'm confused, I have to have a source to claim a source is needed? Or that he is the best manager in the world? Tomorrow he will overtake Sir Alex as the manager with the most semi-final appearances in the champions league... ever. Nuff' said. I agree he is a great manager, I just think your claim that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his is in as much a need of a source as Haitikes claim that Real fans are too.
Being in many semi-finals is great, but Im sure Mourinho aswell would agree that winning is what counts, and for me its more impressive to win it twice with the same club as Ferguson have done. Obviously Bob Paisley winning it three times in nine years is lightyears ahead of both of them on the european scene.
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On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote: everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.
There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up. I'm a Barca fan because I always went on holiday there as a kid . The reason most people in NL like Barca is the incredibly offensive playstyle they have, it's why most Dutchies also prefer Liverpool to win the PL (I prefer Chelsea actually). It's probably one of the reasons Mourinho is disliked as well since he prefers a saver playstyle.
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On April 21 2014 21:55 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote: everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.
There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up. I'm a Barca fan because I always went on holiday there as a kid  . The reason most people in NL like Barca is the incredibly offensive playstyle they have, it's why most Dutchies also prefer Liverpool to win the PL (I prefer Chelsea actually). It's probably one of the reasons Mourinho is disliked as well since he prefers a saver playstyle. Didn't Barca have like 6 Dutch first team players not so long ago (Kluivert, Overmars, de Boer, Zenden ect.), and all the managers too. I thought because so many Dutch people played/worked at Barcelona naturally many people in Holland would follow them (and that Dutch media would historically be pro-Barca).
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On April 21 2014 21:52 kyllinghest wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 21:43 zeo wrote:On April 21 2014 21:17 kyllinghest wrote:On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote: The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his. And almost all Real Madrid fans too. Source please  Whats your source zeo?  I'm confused, I have to have a source to claim a source is needed? Or that he is the best manager in the world? Tomorrow he will overtake Sir Alex as the manager with the most semi-final appearances in the champions league... ever. Nuff' said. I agree he is a great manager, I just think your claim that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his is in as much a need of a source as Haitikes claim that Real fans are too. Being in many semi-finals is great, but Im sure Mourinho aswell would agree that winning is what counts, and for me its more impressive to win it twice with the same club as Ferguson have done. Obviously Bob Paisley winning it three times in nine years is lightyears ahead of both of them on the european scene. I know what you are saying but people will see an incident however they want to see it. Everyone has a different view on football three people from different countries will have 3 different interpretations. Same goes for club fans.
Of course Fergi and Paisley are greats, there are many more managers that have pulled off great stuff as well. But among current active managers few can stand up there with Mourinho.
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On April 21 2014 22:13 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2014 21:55 RvB wrote:On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote: everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.
There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up. I'm a Barca fan because I always went on holiday there as a kid  . The reason most people in NL like Barca is the incredibly offensive playstyle they have, it's why most Dutchies also prefer Liverpool to win the PL (I prefer Chelsea actually). It's probably one of the reasons Mourinho is disliked as well since he prefers a saver playstyle. Didn't Barca have like 6 Dutch first team players not so long ago (Kluivert, Overmars, de Boer, Zenden ect.), and all the managers too. I thought because so many Dutch people played/worked at Barcelona naturally many people in Holland would follow them (and that Dutch media would historically be pro-Barca). Yes that's an important factor as well but I don't think there'd be such a preference for Barca if they were a team with a more cautious playstyle. Although honestly I think most people either don't really care that much or cheer for the most dominant team at the time (bayern atm).
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