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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 09:48:29
April 21 2014 09:40 GMT
#15421
Oh wow, those scenes in Lisbon. Amazing.
Guys calm down, Mourinho is the greatest manager in modern football. Not that much too talk about. Thats it, he is the best.

Him compleatly embarrassing Barcelona when they were the best team in the world many many times has obviously had its effect on people.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
April 21 2014 10:57 GMT
#15422
The only one Mourinho embarrasses is himself.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 21 2014 11:15 GMT
#15423
Bahahaha embarrassed Barça he says xD Not even 33% winrate vs them, losing 5-0 once, less titles, completely destroyed Madrid's image. He was Barça's hero, don't get fooled.

What Mou is really good at is mindgames. He convinced some of Madrid players that the Barça catalans hated them for political reasons, and apparently a lot of other people that he is indeed a great coach.
Of course some of the players aren't all that great minds themselves and actually bought it, even when they were friends at the national team. Some examples were Arbeloa stepping on Pedro while on the floor, Ramos pushing Puyol to the ground by the face... Hell Xabi Alonso is supposed the "señorio" image of spain (lols) and still believes that crap. That's why Xavi, Iniesta and Busi can't stand him.
Moudrid was the anti fair play team, and people who think the eye poke was a cool badass move are the same dumbasses who think Ari Gold or Dr House are actual heros to imitate in real life, that being a douche will lead to success and wealth, instead of the other way around.
Revolutionist fan
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 21 2014 11:25 GMT
#15424
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
April 21 2014 11:27 GMT
#15425
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
April 21 2014 11:29 GMT
#15426
On April 21 2014 20:15 Salteador Neo wrote:
Bahahaha embarrassed Barça he says xD Not even 33% winrate vs them, losing 5-0 once, less titles, completely destroyed Madrid's image. He was Barça's hero, don't get fooled.

What Mou is really good at is mindgames. He convinced some of Madrid players that the Barça catalans hated them for political reasons, and apparently a lot of other people that he is indeed a great coach.
Of course some of the players aren't all that great minds themselves and actually bought it, even when they were friends at the national team. Some examples were Arbeloa stepping on Pedro while on the floor, Ramos pushing Puyol to the ground by the face... Hell Xabi Alonso is supposed the "señorio" image of spain (lols) and still believes that crap. That's why Xavi, Iniesta and Busi can't stand him.
Moudrid was the anti fair play team, and people who think the eye poke was a cool badass move are the same dumbasses who think Ari Gold or Dr House are actual heros to imitate in real life, that being a douche will lead to success and wealth, instead of the other way around.


How about you just watch the football instead of some weird tv-drama
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 21 2014 11:32 GMT
#15427
On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.

Source please
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
April 21 2014 11:41 GMT
#15428
On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.

Source please


I live in Spain? xD

Almost all Real Madrid Mou fans that I know are radical or ultra supporters. Most R.Madrid fans don't want him to come back in the future.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28908 Posts
April 21 2014 12:15 GMT
#15429
everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.

There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.
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kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 21 2014 12:17 GMT
#15430
On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.

Source please

Whats your source zeo?
"NO" -Has
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 21 2014 12:29 GMT
#15431
On April 21 2014 18:40 zeo wrote:
Oh wow, those scenes in Lisbon. Amazing.
Guys calm down, Mourinho is the greatest manager in modern football. Not that much too talk about. Thats it, he is the best.

Him compleatly embarrassing Barcelona when they were the best team in the world many many times has obviously had its effect on people.

I agree heh.

He is the most popular coach in the world. He brings popularity to wherever he go. He makes football more watchable with his personality el classicos were much more enjoyable when Mourinho was there imo.

simply the best~
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
April 21 2014 12:31 GMT
#15432
On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote:
everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.

There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.


I think his reputation in Spain has also something to do with Real and its rivaly against Barca. On one side the "Rebels" with Barca and its local, nice players and their philosophical coaches and on the other side the "empire" with foreign mercenarys, guys like Ramos and Pepe and the Darth Vader of coaches.

I think there is even a "real life" thing with that with the spain dictatorship and Mou fitted pretty good into this stereotype.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28908 Posts
April 21 2014 12:33 GMT
#15433
On April 21 2014 20:15 Salteador Neo wrote:
Bahahaha embarrassed Barça he says xD Not even 33% winrate vs them, losing 5-0 once, less titles, completely destroyed Madrid's image. He was Barça's hero, don't get fooled.

What Mou is really good at is mindgames. He convinced some of Madrid players that the Barça catalans hated them for political reasons, and apparently a lot of other people that he is indeed a great coach.
Of course some of the players aren't all that great minds themselves and actually bought it, even when they were friends at the national team. Some examples were Arbeloa stepping on Pedro while on the floor, Ramos pushing Puyol to the ground by the face... Hell Xabi Alonso is supposed the "señorio" image of spain (lols) and still believes that crap. That's why Xavi, Iniesta and Busi can't stand him.
Moudrid was the anti fair play team, and people who think the eye poke was a cool badass move are the same dumbasses who think Ari Gold or Dr House are actual heros to imitate in real life, that being a douche will lead to success and wealth, instead of the other way around.


Nobody thinks the eye poke was cool, in fact everyone who likes mourinho generally think that this was the one time where he really fucked up and crossed the line.

And prior to his spell at real, he had faced barcelona 3 times, 1-1 with chelsea and beat them with inter - beating them with squads that were quite frankly inferior. During his spell at real, he started out being dominated by them in the first season, (but Real Madrid had lost 4 clasicos in a row before mourinho entered), and then after his team gelled they went like 3-2-3 in the next 8 matches).

Basically the notion that barca embarassed mourinho or the other way around is just silly, mourinho has performed well against them with all teams he has managed but it hasn't been any type of dominance, which is logical as barcelona has overall been the best team in the world of the past decade and no matter how great you are as a manager you can't consistently dominate the best team in the world.
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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 21 2014 12:37 GMT
#15434
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 21 2014 12:43 GMT
#15435
On April 21 2014 21:17 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.

Source please

Whats your source zeo?

I'm confused, I have to have a source to claim a source is needed? Or that he is the best manager in the world?

Tomorrow he will overtake Sir Alex as the manager with the most semi-final appearances in the champions league... ever. Nuff' said.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 21 2014 12:52 GMT
#15436
On April 21 2014 21:43 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 21:17 kyllinghest wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.

Source please

Whats your source zeo?

I'm confused, I have to have a source to claim a source is needed? Or that he is the best manager in the world?

Tomorrow he will overtake Sir Alex as the manager with the most semi-final appearances in the champions league... ever. Nuff' said.

I agree he is a great manager, I just think your claim that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his is in as much a need of a source as Haitikes claim that Real fans are too.

Being in many semi-finals is great, but Im sure Mourinho aswell would agree that winning is what counts, and for me its more impressive to win it twice with the same club as Ferguson have done. Obviously Bob Paisley winning it three times in nine years is lightyears ahead of both of them on the european scene.
"NO" -Has
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 12:57:11
April 21 2014 12:55 GMT
#15437
On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote:
everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.

There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.

I'm a Barca fan because I always went on holiday there as a kid . The reason most people in NL like Barca is the incredibly offensive playstyle they have, it's why most Dutchies also prefer Liverpool to win the PL (I prefer Chelsea actually). It's probably one of the reasons Mourinho is disliked as well since he prefers a saver playstyle.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 13:15:49
April 21 2014 13:13 GMT
#15438
On April 21 2014 21:55 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote:
everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.

There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.

I'm a Barca fan because I always went on holiday there as a kid . The reason most people in NL like Barca is the incredibly offensive playstyle they have, it's why most Dutchies also prefer Liverpool to win the PL (I prefer Chelsea actually). It's probably one of the reasons Mourinho is disliked as well since he prefers a saver playstyle.

Didn't Barca have like 6 Dutch first team players not so long ago (Kluivert, Overmars, de Boer, Zenden ect.), and all the managers too. I thought because so many Dutch people played/worked at Barcelona naturally many people in Holland would follow them (and that Dutch media would historically be pro-Barca).
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 13:26:19
April 21 2014 13:21 GMT
#15439
On April 21 2014 21:52 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 21:43 zeo wrote:
On April 21 2014 21:17 kyllinghest wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:32 zeo wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:27 haitike wrote:
On April 21 2014 20:25 zeo wrote:
The last two posts prove my point that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his.


And almost all Real Madrid fans too.

Source please

Whats your source zeo?

I'm confused, I have to have a source to claim a source is needed? Or that he is the best manager in the world?

Tomorrow he will overtake Sir Alex as the manager with the most semi-final appearances in the champions league... ever. Nuff' said.

I agree he is a great manager, I just think your claim that all Barca supporters are anti-fans of his is in as much a need of a source as Haitikes claim that Real fans are too.

Being in many semi-finals is great, but Im sure Mourinho aswell would agree that winning is what counts, and for me its more impressive to win it twice with the same club as Ferguson have done. Obviously Bob Paisley winning it three times in nine years is lightyears ahead of both of them on the european scene.

I know what you are saying but people will see an incident however they want to see it. Everyone has a different view on football three people from different countries will have 3 different interpretations. Same goes for club fans.

Of course Fergi and Paisley are greats, there are many more managers that have pulled off great stuff as well. But among current active managers few can stand up there with Mourinho.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 13:30:16
April 21 2014 13:29 GMT
#15440
On April 21 2014 22:13 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 21:55 RvB wrote:
On April 21 2014 21:15 Liquid`Drone wrote:
everyone who primarily watched mourinho in spain hates him, but a lot of the people who primarily watched him outside real love him. For me it's certainly love, I think he's brilliant, I don't interpret his statements in this ultra-cynical way many people do. I think he is a sore loser - like most great winners - and I think he'd benefit from not talking to media in the first 2 hours after a game, but then everyone wants to hear what he has to say after a game because it's so often going to be entertaining and or controversial, so he's always gonna get microphoned in the face.

There also seems to be some, if you're dutch you hate mourinho rule, I dunno if that's because all dutch worship cruyff and he hates him. Then again all dutch love barcelona, probably for the same reason. If you're english, it's kinda bound to be the other way, because if you watched PL during his first period with chelsea, then you remember this ridiculously charismatic and brilliant coach who sounded like the best manager in the world and who got the results to back it up.

I'm a Barca fan because I always went on holiday there as a kid . The reason most people in NL like Barca is the incredibly offensive playstyle they have, it's why most Dutchies also prefer Liverpool to win the PL (I prefer Chelsea actually). It's probably one of the reasons Mourinho is disliked as well since he prefers a saver playstyle.

Didn't Barca have like 6 Dutch first team players not so long ago (Kluivert, Overmars, de Boer, Zenden ect.), and all the managers too. I thought because so many Dutch people played/worked at Barcelona naturally many people in Holland would follow them (and that Dutch media would historically be pro-Barca).

Yes that's an important factor as well but I don't think there'd be such a preference for Barca if they were a team with a more cautious playstyle. Although honestly I think most people either don't really care that much or cheer for the most dominant team at the time (bayern atm).
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