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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
I am still wondering if the whole Ibrahimovic/Cavani thing works out over the season. EDIT: There are rumours that Falcao has a release clause for Chelsea/ManUnited/Real Madrid. The amount isn't known, but I guess it's slightly above the amount that Monaco paid. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
On September 06 2013 18:32 sc4k wrote: That's so mental, they blatantly aren't. The depth in the EPL blows la liga out of the water. The depth of what? Every time I hear the same thing, like there are more good teams in the EPL than in La Liga but I don't know where that comes from. Sure EPL teams tend to give 100% every week and a lot of small teams are able to beat the big ones, but that may be because the big teams aren't that good to start with... The lack of tactical discipline is really huge and I'm sure that an Atletico would eat every top team in the EPL on a good day. People say that the defenders in la liga suck, but the whole defensive system of the EPL teams suck. And when they don't suck it's when they decided to go for a 0-0 or a 1-0. It's been a very long time since I've seen a very good English team. Man. U several years ago was good but never scary. Chelsea was probably the scariest at this period of time when they were under Mourinho, but that's all I can think of. I'm not even trying to cheer for la Liga because like I said before, it's a lot less entertaining than the EPL. But the average team in La Liga is, for me, better than the EPL one. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
that might be the issue. Half the time I watch la liga the lower half teams can't even string 3 or 4 passes together, they play like championship sides, and their defenders dive around like retarded seals. There are plenty of legit teams in the liga but they can't compare with the lineup of Man U Man City Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Everton. I'll wager the premier league means more to the teams in the premier league than the liga does to the teams in la liga, when compared to European competitions (especially the Europa league which most teams don't care about)...and that's why you will see a better performance from liga teams than epl teams. The inflexibility of match scheduling in the EPL doesn't help either. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On September 06 2013 19:49 warding wrote: What we need is a Davis Cup style match between La Liga vs Premier League. Home and away matches between every team vs the corresponding team finishing in the same ranking on the other league, capped off with an all-star game with the best from both leagues. You sir are a genius. We need a league system for leagues. So we can do this for every league and rank them :D. first division is germany, spain, england, italy. Second division is holland, portugal, russia, turkey Third is like belgium, ukraine etc :D | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On September 06 2013 20:29 WillyWanker wrote: No France? oops forgot about france, would have to go in the second division and bump down turkey! | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On September 06 2013 19:49 warding wrote: What we need is a Davis Cup style match between La Liga vs Premier League. Home and away matches between every team vs the corresponding team finishing in the same ranking on the other league, capped off with an all-star game with the best from both leagues. Give this man some money and he can fund it :3 In an off season where isn't any world cup/euro this would be ever so much fun xD TBF thinking about it, you could just make it a pre season tournament every year lol. Be good experience for all teams involved. Could literally make it the whole league vs league lol. | ||
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
On September 06 2013 20:29 WillyWanker wrote: No France? I think he just forgot (Edit: I was right :D ). France into 2nd, Turkey into 3rd. I think we should go after the UEFA ranking here which atm would give us: 1st Div: Spain, England, Germany, Italy 2nd Div: Portugal, France, Russia, Netherlands 3rd Div: Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey, Switzerland Edit ontop of the Edit ontop of the Edit: This is a very good idea imo and "just" 3 more games/team a season. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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Mensol
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sharkie
Austria18761 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
International Fixtures Friday Matches 21:30 - Colombia vs Ecuador 17:00 - Ghana vs Zambia 17:00 - Czech Republic vs Armenia 23:30 - Paraguay vs Bolivia 15:30 - Russia vs Luxembourg 18:00 - FYR Macedonia vs Wales 17:00 - Jordan vs Uzbekistan 18:00 - Norway vs Cyprus 19:45 - Republic of Ireland vs Sweden 19:45 - Northern Ireland vs Portugal 03:00 - Costa Rica vs USA 20:00 - Scotland vs Belgium 19:00 - Malta vs Denmark 20:00 - England vs Moldova 19:15 - Bosnia-Herzegovina vs Slovakia 01:30 - Chile vs Venezuela 02:30 - Mexico vs Honduras 19:30 - Switzerland vs Iceland 19:30 - Slovenia vs Albania 19:45 - Serbia vs Croatia 19:45 - Italy vs Bulgaria 19:45 - Germany vs Austria 19:45 - Liechtenstein vs Greece 03:00 - Panama vs Jamaica 16:00 - Kazakhstan vs Faroe Islands 19:00 - Turkey vs Andorra 19:00 - Romania vs Hungary 19:10 - Latvia vs Lithuania 03:30 - Peru vs Uruguay 19:30 - Estonia vs Netherlands 19:30 - Finland vs Spain 19:15 - Georgia vs France 7th September 2013 Fixtures 14:30 - Central African Republic vs Ethiopia 14:30 - South Africa vs Botswana 16:30 - Burkina Faso vs Gabon 16:00 - Nigeria vs Malawi 16:00 - Angola vs Liberia 17:30 - Sierra Leone vs Equatorial Guinea 17:30 - Gambia vs Tanzania 16:30 - Niger vs Congo 18:00 - Ivory Coast vs Morocco 19:45 - Tunisia vs Cape Verde Islands 18:45 - Israel vs Azerbaijan 21:00 - Senegal vs Uganda All Kick Off times are in BST, all home teams are stated first. Will post a new fixture list on monday with the other games | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Sure it's entertaining because the ball switches sides a lot and it's very physical, but tactically it's pretty gross. Dutch teams >>>> English teams tactically because they have to. They don't have money to splurge. The #20 in the BPL has a higher budget than the #1 in the Eredivisie but the #1 team will destroy the #20 team. That should tell you enough. The fact that my team (Ajax) beat Man C last year in Europe with a budget 1/8th their size should tell enough. And I don't see how anyone could be of the opinion that one league 'blows the other out of the water' between La Liga and the BPL. I think the argument that English teams don't care about the Europa League is a very poor one. It's a poor choice made by the management to use b-teams. That they lose to Spanish sides because of it is just poor management, especially with their 30-40 player squads. Man U Man City Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Everton Barca, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Malaga, Real Sociedad, Atletico Bilbao, Sevilla. I'd bet on the Spanish teams (if you take last season into account). + Show Spoiler + Disclaimer: I like both leagues. In the BPL I like teams that have my favorite (mostly Dutch or old-Ajax) players in them and I have a slight preference for Tottenham and Arsenal because they play nicer attacking football imo. Then I <3<3 Messi and I have a slight preference for Barcelona anyway so I try not to miss any Barca games. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18761 Posts
On September 06 2013 21:25 Twisted wrote: I'm of the same opinion as WillyWanker when it comes to tactical discipline. Most of the time I watch a BPL match between top teams it's pretty gross. Lack of system, lack of strategy. Just good players running around like headless chicken and then some of those great players make some fantastic individual action that results in a goal. Sure it's entertaining because the ball switches sides a lot and it's very physical, but tactically it's pretty gross. Dutch teams >>>> English teams tactically because they have to. They don't have money to splurge. The #20 in the BPL has a higher budget than the #1 in the Eredivisie but the #1 team will destroy the #20 team. That should tell you enough. The fact that my team (Ajax) beat Man C last year in Europe with a budget 1/8th their size should tell enough. And I don't see how anyone could be of the opinion that one league 'blows the other out of the water' between La Liga and the BPL. I think the argument that English teams don't care about the Europa League is a very poor one. It's a poor choice made by the management to use b-teams. That they lose to Spanish sides because of it is just poor management, especially with their 30-40 player squads. Man U Man City Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Everton Barca, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Malaga, Real Sociedad, Atletico Bilbao, Sevilla. I'd bet on the Spanish teams (if you take last season into account). + Show Spoiler + Disclaimer: I like both leagues. In the BPL I like teams that have my favorite (mostly Dutch or old-Ajax) players in them and I have a slight preference for Tottenham and Arsenal because they play nicer attacking football imo. Then I <3<3 Messi and I have a slight preference for Barcelona anyway so I try not to miss any Barca games. I dont like comparing budget to tactics quality. I mean BVB has quite a low budget but can beat Real and Bayern. Bayern beats Barca with less money. Does this mean BuLi > La Liga tactically wise? | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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