i think the only real thing that determines how good a certain league is, is the quality of the teams across the board and how close the title race is. bpl has around 3 teams fighting for the top spot even up till the last few games, with around 6 teams going for top 4. la liga on the other hand is just rm vs barca and then the rest doesnt matter. the league is pretty much won quite early too, which makes it boring to watch come end of season.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 06 2013 12:49 GMT

#4642

Indeed, you could go on the basis of where the big teams are ranked in Europe.

Pot A of this years champions league was;

Bayern Munchen
Barcelona
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Man Utd
Arsenal
Porto
Benfica

3x English
2x Spain
2x Portuguese
1x German

xD Adds quite an interesting mix

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

September 06 2013 12:53 GMT

#4643

Speaking of top heavy competitions. Portugal is probably even worse than La Liga XD Two teams in the top 8 in Europe and no teams come close to that.

sc4k

United Kingdom5454 Posts

September 06 2013 12:56 GMT

#4644

On September 06 2013 21:25 Twisted wrote:
I think the argument that English teams don't care about the Europa League is a very poor one.

Why??? League positions in the EPL are worth so much more than league positions in la liga, when one considers the monster TV revenue. And the Europa league reward is pathetic by comparison for EPL clubs, unless you have such a big squad you can easily field b teams and get to the higher knockout stages. It's clearly a matter of motivation.

I do agree with your point about tactics - it's probably because the teams are so constantly buying new players that they never have time to fully gel tactically.

Steveling

Greece10806 Posts

September 06 2013 13:01 GMT

#4645

Ofc they don't care since they can't win.
I mean, spurs vs atletico, everton vs valencia, these fixtures can only go one way, so let's pretend we don't care guys.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 06 2013 13:12 GMT

#4646

Yeah SC4K hits nail on the head. No team priorities the Europa League over the premiership due to the prize money difference. Finishing in the champions league spots in Premier league is worth so much more than winning a Europa League. Playing Thursday and Sunday seems to fuck up everyone in the Premier league, especially due to having to travel half way across Europe and only really having Saturday to be prepare let alone if your playing away in the premier league after it for the next league fixture.

Chelsea - Newcastle - Spurs, got to the last 8 all of them with playing reserve squads up to that point lol. Newcastle lost to finalists Benfica. Spurs went out to semi finalists Basel due to sevre injuries in their squad, and chelsea who took it seriously won it.

When Yanited and City got knocked into it, they both put reserves team out and focused on the league, in which that season it went to the last kick of the very last game in the last seconds, where City won the title over Yanited.

Don't forget, Premier league don't give no help to English teams in Europe like the other European leagues do. I remember Real Madrid/Barca (forget which one) being allowed to have a postponed game because they had an important champions league match coming up. That does not happen in England.

Spurs vs Atletico Madrid - right now would be an awesome game for the neutral it would be so open, and quite a few goals.

Everton vs Valencia - I'd pretty much bank on Everton winning both games of that one xD

sharkie

Austria18762 Posts

September 06 2013 13:14 GMT

#4647

On September 06 2013 22:12 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah SC4K hits nail on the head. No team priorities the Europa League over the premiership due to the prize money difference. Finishing in the champions league spots in Premier league is worth so much more than winning a Europa League. Playing Thursday and Sunday seems to fuck up everyone in the Premier league, especially due to having to travel half way across Europe and only really having Saturday to be prepare let alone if your playing away in the premier league after it for the next league fixture.

Chelsea - Newcastle - Spurs, got to the last 8 all of them with playing reserve squads up to that point lol. Newcastle lost to finalists Benfica. Spurs went out to semi finalists Basel due to sevre injuries in their squad, and chelsea who took it seriously won it.

When Yanited and City got knocked into it, they both put reserves team out and focused on the league, in which that season it went to the last kick of the season where City won the title over Yanited.

Don't forget, Premier league don't give no help to English teams in Europe like the other European leagues do. I remember Real Madrid/Barca (forget which one) being allowed to have a postponed game because they had an important champions league match coming up. That does not happen in England.

yeah Bundesliga helps with fixtures too

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 06 2013 13:15 GMT

#4648

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sc4k

United Kingdom5454 Posts

September 06 2013 13:21 GMT

#4649

By the way why is it Atletico vs Spurs and Valencia v Everton? They don't match up if we're talking league positions...

Terminal

United Kingdom2109 Posts

September 06 2013 13:31 GMT

#4650

Shit, I'm confident even the teams outside of the top 6 or so in the EPL could vie for top table finishes in other leagues. Most of the mid/lower table teams are no joke. I'd say they easily stomp their counterparts if we're matching up positions from other leagues.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

September 06 2013 13:47 GMT

#4651

Tbh most EPL teams could beat every Austrian Bundesliga team.

anomalopidae

Slovenia549 Posts

September 06 2013 14:20 GMT

#4652

On September 06 2013 22:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Tbh most EPL teams could beat every Austrian Bundesliga team.

idk, Salzburg would give bottom half a run for their money I think

sharkie

Austria18762 Posts

September 06 2013 14:32 GMT

#4653

On September 06 2013 23:20 anomalopidae wrote:

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idk, Salzburg would give bottom half a run for their money I think

are you kidding?
Salzburg lost to F91 Dudelange. (yeah, go google that club lol)

Mafe

Germany5966 Posts

September 06 2013 14:42 GMT

#4654

We need an eloratings.net for clubs in europe.

sc4k

United Kingdom5454 Posts

September 06 2013 14:52 GMT

#4655

But as already explained it would weight against the EPL clubs because they have less of an incentive to play well in Europe most of the time and they don't get any help from their league (which really fucking sucks, the FA are retarded at many things although they are okay with goal line tech)

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

September 06 2013 15:09 GMT

#4656

Indeed, you need to make a personal list of a TOP 10 clubs in Europe and then out of those pick out the ones that occur the most then make a poll option to see who is where.