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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 17:52:10
October 01 2013 23:49 GMT
#1561
On October 02 2013 08:47 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
so is the PC version like a lot worse? Makes sense since only half the price...for 30 dollars seems like ill just stick to PC unless its like a way better game on xbox

No VC, online generally runs shit. So yeah it's really stripped down. They didn't even patch it last year, which is why I said they're like a step away from just not releasing on PC


I don't play online so no worries there. What do you mean by no VC?
I come in for the scraps
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 01 2013 23:56 GMT
#1562
virtual currency:


The main thing offline I think is that compared to PS4/xbox one next gen graphics shown in the trailer, the PC version is using the xbox 360/ps3 graphics engine, though as noted you can upgrade the graphics with mods significantly.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 02 2013 00:14 GMT
#1563
So yeah you need to patch in to unlock all blacktop stars, if you care about myplayer skill advancement is slow as fuck, can't buy uniform accessories, etc. It's actually kind of a large part of the game.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 00:59:02
October 02 2013 00:58 GMT
#1564
On October 02 2013 07:48 karazax wrote:
Next gen NBA 2k14 looks impressive. Too bad the PC version uses current gen engine/graphics



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all of 5 seconds of this supposed ingame footage, forgive me if i dont take their PR for their word on the actual quality of the game. will jsut wait for a real full game video, which should be inevitable.

and it would be incredibly stupid if they are still using X360 engine for the PC version and not the nextgen engine anyways.
starleague forever
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 02 2013 01:58 GMT
#1565
http://wagesofwins.com/2013/05/31/one-way-carmelo-anthony-is-like-michael-jordan/



Isiah Thomas was on two championship teams and played in 11 All-star games. During his time managing the Toronto Raptors, Toronto went 52-123. He was a bit better as a coach in Indiana, going 131-115 in three seasons before being fired. A couple years later, Thomas was hired by the Knicks to serve as their President of Basketball Operations. With Thomas as President, the Knicks went 180-288 across six seasons; during the last two seasons, Thomas was also the Knicks’ coach. Not only were the Knicks terrible on the court, they also usually had the highest payroll in the NBA. Famously, Thomas’ preferred strategy was to acquire as many “scorers” as possible. In other words, more scorers — or what Melo wants — has been tried in New York very recently.



Michael Jordan was one of the most productive players ever. He won six championships with the Chicago Bulls, as well as countless awards, including NBA MVP (5 times), All-NBA 1st team (10 times), All-Star appearances (14 times), and a Defensive Player of the Year award. But he has failed miserably as an executive and owner. In three and half seasons directing personnel decisions for the Washington Wizards (including two as a player), the Wizards went 110-178. After retiring as a player for the third time, Jordan was fired from his executive position. In March of 2010, Jordan became the majority owner of the Charlotte Bobcats. In three seasons, Jordan’s teams have gone 62-168 and set the record for the worst single-season winning percentage in NBA history. Say what you will about Isiah Thomas, but at least he had a discernible strategy (the strategy didn’t work, but we knew what he was trying to accomplish).



Carmelo Anthony is “like Mike” in that he doesn’t understand why teams win and lose (although it should be noted that Melo is very unlike Mike on the court). Oddly enough, Melo only has to look to his own career to figure this out, because it was not too long ago that he was on the same team as another “scorer”. For two whole seasons, Melo shared the court with Allen Iverson (an inefficient scorer) when they were both in Denver. With two “scorers” on the roster, many people thought the Nuggets were title contenders. But Denver never came close to contending for a title while Melo and Iverson took turns taking shots; in fact, Denver lost in the first round in each of those two seasons, and then made the Western Conference Finals after Iverson was traded away for Chauncey Billups (an efficient “role player”).

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 02 2013 02:43 GMT
#1566
Not that I disagree, but being compared to MJ as a GM is pretty mean.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 02 2013 02:56 GMT
#1567
On October 02 2013 09:58 a176 wrote:

and it would be incredibly stupid if they are still using X360 engine for the PC version and not the nextgen engine anyways.

This happens a lot. I think with FIFA, the PC version is always 1 engine version behind because they just don't bother to port it. :/
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 03:08:24
October 02 2013 03:07 GMT
#1568
the game is pretty good so far, my only gripe is that they completely changed the controls AGAIN this year. Just as I got used to the changes from last year...just pick a damn scheme 2k.
edit- haven't looked at all the rosters but at least Nash is overrated. Way too many Signature skills (huge buffs), still plays almost like Prime Nash.
Did a MyPlayer, got drafted to the Mavs, Monta got injured the 2nd game lol
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
October 02 2013 04:01 GMT
#1569
Since it was all rage today, who you got in a 1 on 1: LBJ or MJ?


Side note: Bernard King would own MJ...juss sayin
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 02 2013 04:37 GMT
#1570
Its unlikely LBJ or MJ could ever stop the other from getting to the rim 1v1. So...

Freeeeeeedom
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
October 02 2013 04:53 GMT
#1571
I can't imagine there would be much Jordan could do if Lebron decided to just back him down under the basket every time he got the ball. Jordan was strong for his size, but Lebron would have a significant size and strength advantage.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 02 2013 05:00 GMT
#1572
People underestimate how ridiculously hard 1v1 defense is.

A person who wants to win never has to settle for anything worse than a layup or a baby hook. This is exactly how I beat our HS team's starting SG in 1v1 (I wrestled 140 lbs and he is 6 inches taller than me). This is one reason to give Jordan an edge, because Lebron might be goofy enough to try Fadeaways, 3s, and Face up Jumpers instead of driving/backing down every time.
Freeeeeeedom
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
October 02 2013 05:11 GMT
#1573
Bill and Jalen (and Grantland) are doing team previews, and they're pretty entertaining (and somewhat factual). They're starting at the prospective worst team and moving up. I've linked Philly's, they'll be releasing them periodically over the next month (so I assume one a day) at the Grantland youtube channel.

Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
October 02 2013 05:42 GMT
#1574
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 02 2013 05:42 GMT
#1575
Acquired: Tony Wroten

Bill: It's pretty Grizzly*.
*TM
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 02 2013 09:35 GMT
#1576
On October 02 2013 14:00 cLutZ wrote:
People underestimate how ridiculously hard 1v1 defense is.

A person who wants to win never has to settle for anything worse than a layup or a baby hook. This is exactly how I beat our HS team's starting SG in 1v1 (I wrestled 140 lbs and he is 6 inches taller than me). This is one reason to give Jordan an edge, because Lebron might be goofy enough to try Fadeaways, 3s, and Face up Jumpers instead of driving/backing down every time.


true except at the NBA level those guys are such good shooters they will be hitting a lot of them easily. One reason why if starting from the top of the key wing players have a massive advantage over bigs that can't dribble well.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 02 2013 13:03 GMT
#1577
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/56193798/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 02 2013 17:23 GMT
#1578
On October 02 2013 22:03 Ace wrote:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/56193798/


-Great. I'm totally convinced that competitive balance does not affect the bottom line for the league or individual clubs. That's what I was really thinking about during the Finals. I was hoping Peter Holt turned a good profit because I'm a big fan of CAT.

-There are two quantities here, money and talent/value, and there is an indistinct relationship between the two. The Knicks and Nets are brought up as counterexamples to the Lakers. What the hell happened to "all else being equal'? Smart poor teams can beat stupid rich teams, what? But when you add smartness, knowledge of how to bend rules to your favor and spend loads of money you get the perfect storm.

-The article said over and over that winning or losing doesn't affect profits, then they say that profit sharing disincentivizes trying to win. Huh. That's going to be true regardless unless you institute some artificial punishment.

-Saying that winning doesn't affect profits may be sort of true in the short term, but that's absolutely not true in the long term. The Yankees and especially the Cowboys are proof of that. Or did Miami just triple in population?

-Individual salaries and the split of profits are negotiated separately. Is there any mention of competitive balance at these CBA negotiations? I fail to see how and to what end a salary cap would suppress overall wages if the percentage remains the same. Sure it keeps individual salaries down because you need a team. Again, max contract is a different argument than salary cap.

-The writer speaks in glowing terms of the European football leagues: A cursory glance at the EPL reveals that players received 67% of the income last year, which is substantially better but doesn't make me think that NBA players are getting ripped off at 50%. Then you look at the fact that most of them are operating at a (sometimes enormous) loss and the league collectively as a debt that equals their yearly income. It would doubtlessly quickly collapse without huge injections of cash, and there are discussions that they will soon adopt several reforms including a salary cap. Meanwhile in Spain, Barcelona and Real Madrid take a whole 43% of the income of La Liga while many of the other teams are scrabbling in the dirt.

-All of this player/financial business aside, the real reason most fans want competitive balance is because they want it to be fair. The NBA is by far the worst league in terms of heaping on advantages for it's golden children and then proclaiming their greatness. We don't need more of that because then it's just fucking WWE, except they're lying to you about it being real. Or maybe the average NBA fan is just that stupid.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 02 2013 19:45 GMT
#1579
On October 02 2013 18:35 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 14:00 cLutZ wrote:
People underestimate how ridiculously hard 1v1 defense is.

A person who wants to win never has to settle for anything worse than a layup or a baby hook. This is exactly how I beat our HS team's starting SG in 1v1 (I wrestled 140 lbs and he is 6 inches taller than me). This is one reason to give Jordan an edge, because Lebron might be goofy enough to try Fadeaways, 3s, and Face up Jumpers instead of driving/backing down every time.


true except at the NBA level those guys are such good shooters they will be hitting a lot of them easily. One reason why if starting from the top of the key wing players have a massive advantage over bigs that can't dribble well.


Yea, in 1v1 I would expect them to hit 50%+ from anywhere on the floor. My point is you really just win 1v1s via shot selection (mostly) and not settling for shots that you aren't like 70%+.


Ace <3 Jibba <3
Freeeeeeedom
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 02 2013 20:08 GMT
#1580
On October 02 2013 11:56 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:58 a176 wrote:

and it would be incredibly stupid if they are still using X360 engine for the PC version and not the nextgen engine anyways.

This happens a lot. I think with FIFA, the PC version is always 1 engine version behind because they just don't bother to port it. :/


well, turns out they are using last gen engine for PC. le sigh.
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