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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 21 2013 16:05 GMT
#1
Welcome to the NBA Offseason 2013

Congratulations to the 2013 NBA Champions, the Miami Heat
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IMPORTANT DATES
  • NBA DRAFT 2013 - June 27
  • July Moratorium - July 1-9
  • Signings Begin - July 10
  • NBA Summer Leagues - July 7-12, 12-22


FREE AGENTS + RUMORS RESOURCES
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  • http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
June 21 2013 16:07 GMT
#2
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"

a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 16:13:38
June 21 2013 16:13 GMT
#3
to get things started, 2 topics of debate

Miami Heat Salary Situation
http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIA.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ian_thomsen/12/06/sixth-man-nba-cba-nicolas-batum/index.html
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1196156
Depending on where the luxury tax level is made, the heat could be looking at over $110 million in salary + tax payments just for the next season.

Rivers to Clippers
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/boston_celtics / http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/los_angeles_clippers
This probably not going to happen but deal will be something like rivers + kg for deandre + 2 first rounders + cash
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 21 2013 16:14 GMT
#4
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.
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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
June 21 2013 16:34 GMT
#5
On June 22 2013 01:14 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.


the raptors can turn him into more money than every team except LA and NY.
LA and NY will be no where near dead last next year.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 21 2013 17:03 GMT
#6
I think the Heat will amnesty Haslem probably as first order of business...
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 21 2013 17:19 GMT
#7
On June 22 2013 01:34 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:14 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.


the raptors can turn him into more money than every team except LA and NY.
LA and NY will be no where near dead last next year.


dont know what you mean by 'more money'. draft salaries are all set amount based on pick position -> http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm
starleague forever
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
June 21 2013 17:24 GMT
#8
On June 22 2013 02:19 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:34 lamprey1 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:14 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.


the raptors can turn him into more money than every team except LA and NY.
LA and NY will be no where near dead last next year.


dont know what you mean by 'more money'. draft salaries are all set amount based on pick position -> http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm


the Raptors can create more revenue using Wiggins.

In the same way the Toronto Maple Leafs made more money off of Doug Gilmour than the St. Louis Blues did.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 17:56:31
June 21 2013 17:47 GMT
#9
On June 22 2013 02:24 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 02:19 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:34 lamprey1 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:14 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.


the raptors can turn him into more money than every team except LA and NY.
LA and NY will be no where near dead last next year.


dont know what you mean by 'more money'. draft salaries are all set amount based on pick position -> http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm


the Raptors can create more revenue using Wiggins.

In the same way the Toronto Maple Leafs made more money off of Doug Gilmour than the St. Louis Blues did.


I doubt that. You are comparing St. Louis / Toronto hockey markets to basketball markets in which case you have made a horrible error...there is no Toronto basketball market.

Kidding aside, I like the hiring of Ujiri in Toronto but that team would merely be a launching pad for Wiggins free agency in about 5 years.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 18:11:05
June 21 2013 18:09 GMT
#10
On June 22 2013 02:47 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 02:24 lamprey1 wrote:
On June 22 2013 02:19 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:34 lamprey1 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:14 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.


the raptors can turn him into more money than every team except LA and NY.
LA and NY will be no where near dead last next year.


dont know what you mean by 'more money'. draft salaries are all set amount based on pick position -> http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm


the Raptors can create more revenue using Wiggins.

In the same way the Toronto Maple Leafs made more money off of Doug Gilmour than the St. Louis Blues did.


I doubt that. You are comparing St. Louis / Toronto hockey markets to basketball markets in which case you have made a horrible error...there is no Toronto basketball market.

Kidding aside, I like the hiring of Ujiri in Toronto but that team would merely be a launching pad for Wiggins free agency in about 5 years.


if there were no Toronto basketball market they would've never been awarded a team.
Isiah Thomas, Bryan Colangelo, and Glen Grunwald never would've come here.
if there were no Toronto basketball market then they would've left town as fast as teh Grizzlies left Vancouver.

there is a giant dormant Toronto market, which awakened only briefly when the Raptors won their 1 and only playoff series in the team's history.
that is why Tim Lewieke is here.

So, in almost 20 years the raptors have one a single BO5. Check their attendance in the past several years of no playoffs.

Toronto is a huge basketball market.
Try reading some of what Kobe says when he comes here.

Coming to Canada, passing through customs, enduring the cold winters... are all a giant pain in the ass. Why would the NBA and the PA put up with all this crap?
Toronto and Canada represents a giant pile of cash and David Stern and the NBAPA knows this. That is why there is a team in Toronto.

i'll spell it out for you.
the 5 worst teams in the NBA for 2013-4 won't be able to generate the kind of revenue MLSE will be able to generate using Wiggins.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 21 2013 18:10 GMT
#11
On June 22 2013 03:09 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 02:47 BoZiffer wrote:
On June 22 2013 02:24 lamprey1 wrote:
On June 22 2013 02:19 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:34 lamprey1 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:14 a176 wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:07 lamprey1 wrote:
the Raptors should intentionally tank and get Wiggins first over all.

Coach Casey should stare straight into the camera every week and say "its all about development. we are developing our younger players and experimenting with some new sets to make our players well rounded basketball players"



and regarding wiggins, please be on the lookout for probably 3/4 of the entire league tanking for a chance to score wiggins. be prepared for one of the worst nba seasons in the past decade.


the raptors can turn him into more money than every team except LA and NY.
LA and NY will be no where near dead last next year.


dont know what you mean by 'more money'. draft salaries are all set amount based on pick position -> http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm


the Raptors can create more revenue using Wiggins.

In the same way the Toronto Maple Leafs made more money off of Doug Gilmour than the St. Louis Blues did.


I doubt that. You are comparing St. Louis / Toronto hockey markets to basketball markets in which case you have made a horrible error...there is no Toronto basketball market.

Kidding aside, I like the hiring of Ujiri in Toronto but that team would merely be a launching pad for Wiggins free agency in about 5 years.


if there were no Toronto basketball market they would've never been awarded a team.
Isiah Thomas, Bryan Colangelo, and Glen Grunwald never would've come here.
if there were no Toronto basketball market then they would've left town as fast as teh Grizzlies left Vancouver.

there is a giant dormant Toronto market, which awakened only briefly when the Raptors won their 1 and only playoff series in the team's history.
that is why Tim Lewieke is here.

So, in almost 20 years the raptors have one a single BO5. Check their attendance in the past several years of no playoffs.

Toronto is a huge basketball market.
Try reading some of what Kobe says when he comes here.

Coming to Canada, passing through customs, enduring the cold winters... are all a giant pain in the ass.
Toronto and Canada represents a giant pile of cash and David Stern and the NBAPA knows this. That is why there is a team in Toronto.

i'll spell it out for you.
the 5 worst teams in the NBA for 2013-4 won't be able to generate the kind of revenue MLSE will be able to generate using Wiggins.


Apparently you didn't catch the "Kidding aside part"... so ... yeah.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 18:16:51
June 21 2013 18:13 GMT
#12
regarding the "launching pad" part.
this was also true of the Toronto Blue Jays until they got a good GM.

then all of a sudden, Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson, Jack Morris and Jeff Kent are "happy to be in Canada".
Toronto ain't Cleveland.

right now, in Toronto, basketball is more popular than baseball.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 18:20:02
June 21 2013 18:16 GMT
#13
On June 22 2013 03:13 lamprey1 wrote:
regarding the "launching pad" part.
this was also true of the Toronto Blue Jays until they got a good GM.

then all of a sudden, Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson, Jack Morris and Jeff Kent are "happy to be in Canada".


Look bro...I was joking for crying goodness sake. That is what "kidding aside" was referring to. You can stop your Better Business Bureau or Toronto Chamber of Commerce rant man... I know Toronto. I grew up in Western NY and spent a good amount of time there. Hell, my Bills will probably be moving to Toronto after this next lease expires in Buffalo.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 21 2013 19:16 GMT
#14
On June 22 2013 03:16 BoZiffer wrote:Hell, my Bills will probably be moving to Toronto after this next lease expires in Buffalo.


made me laugh :D
starleague forever
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 19:50:48
June 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#15
Typical how the off season thread dips right into toronto hopefuls, for a year from now. Someone said how toronto isnt cleveland? Yea cleveland has had success in the past decade and their #1 picks have been worth max contracts. Lolz
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 23:15:08
June 21 2013 23:14 GMT
#16
rivers to clips officially dead
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/doc-rivers-won-t-join-clippers-as-coach-211251874.html

wonder how cp3 will cry about this now
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 21 2013 23:19 GMT
#17
Its been dead since stern said he would veto any trade, scratch that, its been dead since it went public as about 10% of public trades ever go through
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 23:42:06
June 21 2013 23:40 GMT
#18
On June 22 2013 04:40 Holcan wrote:
Typical how the off season thread dips right into toronto hopefuls, for a year from now. Someone said how toronto isnt cleveland? Yea cleveland has had success in the past decade and their #1 picks have been worth max contracts. Lolz

So their Toronto success hinges on tanking hard enough to land Andrew Wiggins, hoping he is what everyone says he is and he doesn't get injured and he really is the next Lebron?

Everyone and their mother will be trying to get Wiggins next year, and no matter how hard they tank there are going to be teams with a better shot, like the Bobcats or any Western conference bottom-feeder, since they play more good teams a year.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
June 22 2013 00:02 GMT
#19
All the non-championship contender teams (both real and teams that think they can win) will try to tank to get Wiggins, but even then, some bad teams have to win games. Everyone can't be a loser in the league (over half the league makes the playoffs).

I would've thought that if Doc and KG moved to the Clips, Stern, in his final act rigs the lottery so that Boston lands Wiggins. Yes, I know that Adam Silver is going to be commissioner by then, but Silver has always been Stern's right-hand man. Obviously this isn't going to happen now.

Let the conspiracy theories for the Andrew Wiggins draft commence!
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 22 2013 00:10 GMT
#20
On June 22 2013 08:40 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 04:40 Holcan wrote:
Typical how the off season thread dips right into toronto hopefuls, for a year from now. Someone said how toronto isnt cleveland? Yea cleveland has had success in the past decade and their #1 picks have been worth max contracts. Lolz

So their Toronto success hinges on tanking hard enough to land Andrew Wiggins, hoping he is what everyone says he is and he doesn't get injured and he really is the next Lebron?

Everyone and their mother will be trying to get Wiggins next year, and no matter how hard they tank there are going to be teams with a better shot, like the Bobcats or any Western conference bottom-feeder, since they play more good teams a year.


please.

we all know bobcats will never get #1 pick

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