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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 25 2013 13:21 RowdierBob wrote: Yeah it apparently hasn't gone very far (Bulls/Wiz talks). I'm reading the Blazers turned down the #1 and #19 picks from the Cavs for LMA. I think they don't want to stay "rebuilding" for a long time. Although it shows the Cavs are serious about both shopping that pick and making the playoffs this year. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
Here's a viable, albeit risky, proposition for the Cavs: #1 pick for DeMarcus Cousins. Apparently the Kings are taking offers for him. Who says yes/no and why? Is Cousins more Derrick Coleman (unfulfilled potential) or ZBo (late bloomer)? Or perhaps they could lower their standards (and keep the #1 pick) by putting together a S&T package for Paul Milsap. Or work something with the Bucks for Ersan Ilyasova. Sneaky edit: let's hope the Cavs don't do something stupid like sign Al Jefferson or Josh Smith to a ridiculous contract if they really are looking for a solid veteran big man. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
Do you think anyone in this draft is a better option for the Cavs? Or if you had to trade the pick for a big, whom do believe could be a realistic target? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
I also think bargs and deandre could work out, but both are way overpaid, and im not sure how other assets would line up due to them being way overpaid | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
allen could use exception to resign with heat for more money. but will heat pay for him? | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
Since they're ramping up their expectations, I expect they'll now put in an impossible bid for Blake Griffin or Anthony Davis. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
idk if allens pride will let him take the vet min | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
I think the Cavs are a long way from making the Playoffs. They'd need to get a pretty impressive haul this off-season to improve much from the 24 wins in 2013. Even if they could swing a major deal with the #1 pick (which looks unlikely) their depth is just awful. You've got to have a deep enough roster to sustain the grind of an NBA season and the Cavs don't have much talent right now outside of a few young project guys. Whatever happens, it's still going to be a lean year for the Cavs in '14. It's probably worth bottoming out for another year, getting a solid 2014 pick, and then going nuts in the 2014 FA season. They probably have the best cap situation in the NBA so at least have a lot of options (which is why they're being so aggressive in shopping the #1 pick). | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
LeBron's only going to go to a situation that is ripe for contention (if he does leave Miami). Heading to a Cavs teams with say Kyrie/Love (even though it didn't happen) is much more likely to sway LeBron than a team with Kyrie and project players like Thompson/Waiters/Noel (or whomever they draft). | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
the problem is that if they keep offering the deals they are people will start hanging up before even listening to their offers | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
But at the same time you can understand why Minny and Portland would refuse. Minny hasn't had a chance to get a full season out of the Love/Rubio combo yet and obv wants to see what they can do. They tanked for years and finally got a star in Love. It would be silly for them to go back to the rebuild now (even if Love is likely to bolt once he hits UFA in '16). I'd rather hold onto Love and see what they can do in the next three seasons with a bit of luck. For the Blazers, it's close-ish too. I think they refused because they already have a decent starting team and really need to acquire more depth than anything. They have a really competitive starting line-up but lack a good defensive C and bench. The #1 and #19, whilst tempting, didn't suit the current roster's needs. It looks like they're eager to bolster the roster with an established star to help in their 2014 FA recruitment. They're probably being a tad overambitious at the moment but it can be better to ask than never know. I don't think it's hurting them making these offers. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13480 Posts
On June 26 2013 12:05 Itsmedudeman wrote: Kyrie can't take the cavs to a championship, even with pieces. They'd need a bigger piece than Kyrie for any shot. Not sure how impatient Kyrie is, but they should really look at 2-3 years and just be hoping they can maybe make 8th place this year. I dunno, I see him being at CP3's level if he keeps improving like he has been. Kid is a bona fide superstar. Give him the right players around him and who knows? | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 26 2013 12:17 RowdierBob wrote: I dunno, I see him being at CP3's level if he keeps improving like he has been. Kid is a bona fide superstar. Give him the right players around him and who knows? I'm just predicting it's gonna take 2-3 years before he reaches that level. | ||
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