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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On April 04 2013 16:31 USvBleakill wrote: Dortmund choked so hard especially Götze. 0-0 is a pretty bad result if the second game is at home. losing 1-2 would be better then this. thats bs ^^ come on a 4-3 is win then and it would not been with 1-2 there | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10778 Posts
They actually got their finances together... Give me (nearly) unlimited funds and i create you the best league in switzerland... It won't be profitable in the least, but hey.. Who cares! It's football, the one thing that shuts down brains nearly as much as sex ^^. | ||
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Hadley88
Germany267 Posts
Buli > Rest. Dortmund > Malaga/Real | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:29 CoR wrote: thats bs ^^ come on a 4-3 is win then and it would not been with 1-2 there You might be right but a 1:1 is far more realistic. The Problem is without a away goal you have to win at home. If they aren´t able to score before the 60 minute mark it gets very tough because you are just one error away from needing 2 goals. Thats especially dangerous for Dortmund because their defensive concept and 3/4 of their one goals life/comes from their against press (sorry guys i don´t think there is even an english word for "gegenpressen"  ).It´s not far away from the situation that Juventus is in. 2 Goals at home are not that big of a deal for a ro8 CL team but they have to be insanely carefully because if Bayern scores they need 4. And it doesnt matter how bad they play, over 90 minutes an offense with Müller, Ribery and Robben will always get their chances. It´s more a psychological thing that you have a big disadvantage without an away goal. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On April 04 2013 19:11 USvBleakill wrote: Thats especially dangerous for Dortmund because their defensive concept and 3/4 of their one goals life/comes from their against press (sorry guys i don´t think there is even an english word for "gegenpressen" ).You probably mean counter-attacking? | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
Not sure i think counter-attack would be more like a fastbreak in basketball is. The german word "gegenpressen" is used as a part of "pressing" which is kind of the same as a full court press in basketball. Its the strategy that brought Barcelona to their dominance, instead of backing off to defend after you loose the ball you rush the ballhandler as fast and as soon as possible and put a lot of pressure at the opponents defenders who wants to initiate the attack.. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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mevshero
911 Posts
On April 04 2013 06:12 Hadley88 wrote: BVB win EZPZ at Home. Look what they have done to Donezk. And if BVB faces Real again in the Semis, BVB will have no problem making it to the Finals. this new age dortmund arrogance... their first cl quarterfinals in 15 years, not even played the 2nd leg yet, already talking from the finals, cause real madrid would be no problem. | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
On April 04 2013 21:31 mevshero wrote: this new age dortmund arrogance... their first cl quarterfinals in 15 years, not even played the 2nd leg yet, already talking from the finals, cause real madrid would be no problem. In fact, it's just some kind of fanatism for their club. Makes is basically impossible to kind of seriously discuss football, because they'll just throw in unreflected crap showing how much of a die-hard fan they are (in my experience, BVB and VfB Stuttgart fans are among the worst in that regard). I try to ignore it, but from time to time I'll get upset about such attitude ignoring the mostly very reasonable and reflected interaction in the big football threads here. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On April 04 2013 21:29 Sated wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qz5uqZd.jpg) Standard UEFA trollerees. And nobody is allowed to say anything or they get a suspension lol. | ||
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
If we go to the semifinals that would be a great achievment and then that's as far as we can go this season I think. Real in knockout stage will be a whole different thing and at that point we won't be favourites to advance anymore, no matter which team we are going to play. (Real, Barca/PSG, Bayern/Juve, I think Galatasaray is out tbh). | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On April 04 2013 19:11 USvBleakill wrote: You might be right but a 1:1 is far more realistic. The Problem is without a away goal you have to win at home. If they aren´t able to score before the 60 minute mark it gets very tough because you are just one error away from needing 2 goals. Thats especially dangerous for Dortmund because their defensive concept and 3/4 of their one goals life/comes from their against press (sorry guys i don´t think there is even an english word for "gegenpressen" ).It´s not far away from the situation that Juventus is in. 2 Goals at home are not that big of a deal for a ro8 CL team but they have to be insanely carefully because if Bayern scores they need 4. And it doesnt matter how bad they play, over 90 minutes an offense with Müller, Ribery and Robben will always get their chances. It´s more a psychological thing that you have a big disadvantage without an away goal. 1:1 result at home still results in a loss whether the away game was 0:0 or 1:2. There is no possible home result that combines better with 1:2 away than it does with 0:0 away. But yes, 0:0 away is a slightly bad result. 1:1 would be better. On the other hand, if you managed to draw the other team on the road, you should win more often that not at home, no? | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 04 2013 22:26 Signet wrote: 1:1 result at home still results in a loss whether the away game was 0:0 or 1:2. There is no possible home result that combines better with 1:2 away than it does with 0:0 away. But yes, 0:0 away is a slightly bad result. 1:1 would be better. On the other hand, if you managed to draw the other team on the road, you should win more often that not at home, no? You would rather come away with a 1-1. But the expectation is the Dortmund will win the return leg period. I dont think drawing the next game is something that will yield anything positive for Dortmund. They are a better team period, they choked a fair bit and the result just didnt reflect it. Ofcourse now they have to be concerned but they should still be favourites. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2607 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/iJuUZsUkVYGQp.gif) ROFL. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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