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On May 22 2013 23:38 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 23:29 Maenander wrote:On May 20 2013 18:43 Pandemona wrote:
I would say Chelsea will start favorites, then United, then City, then Arsenal. You are quick to make Chelsea favourites :D It looks like ManCity will get Pellegrini and some new players (maybe Isco), and ManU have just won the PL quite easily and might add some more players as well. So I wouldn't proclaim Chelsea favourites just because Mou arrives and brings Essien with him  In my opinion Mourinho will have a tougher task this time around, and he might even have declined as a manager over the past years. His tactics seemingly aren't up to date and his lauded man management skills didn't really shine during his time at Real. Lol Essien with him...ahah no he will be sold/whatever he has no place at Chelsea now i don't think. Too many injuries. Why i say Chelsea are favorites or will start out bookmakers favorites is because; 1. Mourinho knows the premier league and his 2 full seasons, won it easily (10+ points league and 1 record points tally) 2. Pellegrinni doesn't know English football, = instant u lose value, he is an unknown quantity for that 3. Moyes at United is going to be a HUGE transition period, don't forget that united squad WAS SHIT, as proven in the games vs West Brom (5-5) and Reading 3-2 (all goals in under 40minutes). Fergie some how got his team to win that title last season, HOW i do not know, but there is no chance Moyes can do that with that squad. 4. Chelsea will arguably by the least players out of the 3 clubs, BUT the players we have (should) only get better and better as they are growing up. Don't forget these Chelsea players did all the last end of the season on empty (clearly shown) and they still managed to win a Europa League and finish 2 points clear in 3rd(somehow)
Chelsea's team isn't really good enough to be instant favourites next season. Don't forget that Chelsea basically got outplayed by Benfica for a long time in the Europa League finals. I mean sure they will get Mourinho and new players but other teams are getting new players too
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On May 23 2013 00:57 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 23:38 Pandemona wrote:On May 22 2013 23:29 Maenander wrote:On May 20 2013 18:43 Pandemona wrote:
I would say Chelsea will start favorites, then United, then City, then Arsenal. You are quick to make Chelsea favourites :D It looks like ManCity will get Pellegrini and some new players (maybe Isco), and ManU have just won the PL quite easily and might add some more players as well. So I wouldn't proclaim Chelsea favourites just because Mou arrives and brings Essien with him In my opinion Mourinho will have a tougher task this time around, and he might even have declined as a manager over the past years. His tactics seemingly aren't up to date and his lauded man management skills didn't really shine during his time at Real. Lol Essien with him...ahah no he will be sold/whatever he has no place at Chelsea now i don't think. Too many injuries. Why i say Chelsea are favorites or will start out bookmakers favorites is because; 1. Mourinho knows the premier league and his 2 full seasons, won it easily (10+ points league and 1 record points tally) 2. Pellegrinni doesn't know English football, = instant u lose value, he is an unknown quantity for that 3. Moyes at United is going to be a HUGE transition period, don't forget that united squad WAS SHIT, as proven in the games vs West Brom (5-5) and Reading 3-2 (all goals in under 40minutes). Fergie some how got his team to win that title last season, HOW i do not know, but there is no chance Moyes can do that with that squad. 4. Chelsea will arguably by the least players out of the 3 clubs, BUT the players we have (should) only get better and better as they are growing up. Don't forget these Chelsea players did all the last end of the season on empty (clearly shown) and they still managed to win a Europa League and finish 2 points clear in 3rd(somehow) Chelsea's team isn't really good enough to be instant favourites next season. Don't forget that Chelsea basically got outplayed by Benfica for a long time in the Europa League finals. I mean sure they will get Mourinho and new players but other teams are getting new players too
Chalsea got outplayed in most of their CL games last season and we all know what happened. After all this season wasn't that bad and with players like Hazard, Mata and Oscar it has to only get better than what they did until 3 months ago.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I said we will get better because we wont be playing as many games. Don't forget when we played Benfica are little squad of 14 was on its 67th game of the season! Thats why we got outplayed. We could give them a proper game if we had everyone fresh.
But the main reason i think we will be favorites is due to that we will be bringing in the few players we are missing. A striker, if we had a striker who learns to feed off the front 3 we have then we will score very easily. Another midfielders who can potentially be the big power house we need in one of the holding roles, or even just another midfielder who is just good. And we already have Schurrle deal done if you read reports XD
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On May 23 2013 01:22 Influ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 00:57 RvB wrote:On May 22 2013 23:38 Pandemona wrote:On May 22 2013 23:29 Maenander wrote:On May 20 2013 18:43 Pandemona wrote:
I would say Chelsea will start favorites, then United, then City, then Arsenal. You are quick to make Chelsea favourites :D It looks like ManCity will get Pellegrini and some new players (maybe Isco), and ManU have just won the PL quite easily and might add some more players as well. So I wouldn't proclaim Chelsea favourites just because Mou arrives and brings Essien with him In my opinion Mourinho will have a tougher task this time around, and he might even have declined as a manager over the past years. His tactics seemingly aren't up to date and his lauded man management skills didn't really shine during his time at Real. Lol Essien with him...ahah no he will be sold/whatever he has no place at Chelsea now i don't think. Too many injuries. Why i say Chelsea are favorites or will start out bookmakers favorites is because; 1. Mourinho knows the premier league and his 2 full seasons, won it easily (10+ points league and 1 record points tally) 2. Pellegrinni doesn't know English football, = instant u lose value, he is an unknown quantity for that 3. Moyes at United is going to be a HUGE transition period, don't forget that united squad WAS SHIT, as proven in the games vs West Brom (5-5) and Reading 3-2 (all goals in under 40minutes). Fergie some how got his team to win that title last season, HOW i do not know, but there is no chance Moyes can do that with that squad. 4. Chelsea will arguably by the least players out of the 3 clubs, BUT the players we have (should) only get better and better as they are growing up. Don't forget these Chelsea players did all the last end of the season on empty (clearly shown) and they still managed to win a Europa League and finish 2 points clear in 3rd(somehow) Chelsea's team isn't really good enough to be instant favourites next season. Don't forget that Chelsea basically got outplayed by Benfica for a long time in the Europa League finals. I mean sure they will get Mourinho and new players but other teams are getting new players too Chalsea got outplayed in most of their CL games last season and we all know what happened. After all this season wasn't that bad and with players like Hazard, Mata and Oscar it has to only get better than what they did until 3 months ago.
Well sure but there's a difference between playing ultra defensive against Barcelona and Bayern because there's a big difference in quality and getting outplayed by a sup top European club like Benfica.
I said we will get better because we wont be playing as many games. Don't forget when we played Benfica are little squad of 14 was on its 67th game of the season! Thats why we got outplayed. We could give them a proper game if we had everyone fresh.
But the main reason i think we will be favorites is due to that we will be bringing in the few players we are missing. A striker, if we had a striker who learns to feed off the front 3 we have then we will score very easily. Another midfielders who can potentially be the big power house we need in one of the holding roles, or even just another midfielder who is just good. And we already have Schurrle deal done if you read reports XD
Alright I misunderstood you then but still Benfica had also just had a devastating loss against Porto both mentally and physically.
I agree with you two that it will probably be better next year especially with a good striker but I don't really think it will make them favourites any more than the other big clubs.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O
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On May 22 2013 23:00 Pandemona wrote:
Dzeko is rumoured to be in a "swap deal" for Cavani of Napoli as it will lower the price.
Cavani is coming to Arsenal, Napoli are playing in the Emirates Cup in August as part of the deal.
On May 23 2013 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O
Arsenal is gonna be pretty good next year when we have Rooney, Cavani, Fabregas, and Gonalons (you might think Rooney's wages are too high, but he will be taking a pay cut so he can finally get his FA Cup winners' medal when we get the treble next year and Wilshere leads England to the World Cup in 2014).
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On May 23 2013 02:04 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 23:00 Pandemona wrote:
Dzeko is rumoured to be in a "swap deal" for Cavani of Napoli as it will lower the price. Cavani is coming to Arsenal, Napoli are playing in the Emirates Cup in August as part of the deal. Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O Arsenal is gonna be pretty good next year when we have Rooney, Cavani, Fabregas, and Gonalons (you might think Rooney's wages are too high, but he will be taking a pay cut so he can finally get his FA Cup winners' medal when we get the treble next year and Wilshere leads England to the World Cup in 2014).
I'll bet my pet unicorn thats not happening..
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Seems like PSG has opened negotiations with Rooney.
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Pandemona
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On May 23 2013 02:04 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 23:00 Pandemona wrote:
Dzeko is rumoured to be in a "swap deal" for Cavani of Napoli as it will lower the price. Cavani is coming to Arsenal, Napoli are playing in the Emirates Cup in August as part of the deal. Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O Arsenal is gonna be pretty good next year when we have Rooney, Cavani, Fabregas, and Gonalons (you might think Rooney's wages are too high, but he will be taking a pay cut so he can finally get his FA Cup winners' medal when we get the treble next year and Wilshere leads England to the World Cup in 2014).
Wow i applaud your optimism 
But im glad you agree you might title contenders if you sure up some of the departments and bring in 5-6 good quality players.
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On May 23 2013 02:04 Ferrose wrote:
leads England to the World Cup in 2014
Looking foward to meet you in the Quarterfinals again. What was it last time? 4-1? =D
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On May 23 2013 02:35 Rebs wrote:
I'll bet my pet unicorn thats not happening..
Did England winning the World Cup give it away?
On May 23 2013 02:44 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 02:04 Ferrose wrote:On May 22 2013 23:00 Pandemona wrote:
Dzeko is rumoured to be in a "swap deal" for Cavani of Napoli as it will lower the price. Cavani is coming to Arsenal, Napoli are playing in the Emirates Cup in August as part of the deal. On May 23 2013 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O Arsenal is gonna be pretty good next year when we have Rooney, Cavani, Fabregas, and Gonalons (you might think Rooney's wages are too high, but he will be taking a pay cut so he can finally get his FA Cup winners' medal when we get the treble next year and Wilshere leads England to the World Cup in 2014). Wow i applaud your optimism But im glad you agree you might title contenders if you sure up some of the departments and bring in 5-6 good quality players.
Definitely. The biggest problem is the lack of depth. When Giroud went out we had no one reliable to replace him, and not even a promising youngster to give a chance. Not to mention we have like 5 midfielders (Wenger had to play Oxlade-Chamberlain at central midfield during the final game), and just 3 CBs.
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On May 23 2013 00:43 warding wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 00:15 daSilvaz wrote:On May 22 2013 22:14 bObaZ wrote:
Silva, I don't want to start a war here. And i'm not a melonhead. Being sad is different that having a melon for a head... But i understand the comment. I didn't even said anything offensive on my comment and i underlined the fact that i'm a Benfica Fan... I didn't even said that porto had doping i only said that reports exist... Don't be so dramatic!
On Topic, I think Enzo have probably a 25-30M clause (i'm not sure) and the problem with Benfica Strikers is that they're Old... Cardozo os 28 or 29 and Lima is 30...
And Ysellian, i've never hear about that player... And there's no mention to him in Benfica Foruns so it might be the dutch media. If u didnt want to flame Porto then u would have talked about ur own club, wich evidence is quite stronger that ours in that regard, but obviously its easier to talk about us like all benfica supporters do...we are the worst of the worst, the devil himself pales before our power and benfica is the sweetest angel in heaven....spare me please And dont be too ofended regarding the mellonhead, its just a funny way to make fun of u guys Show nested quote +There was the Nuno Assis case in 2006, yes. I don't know of any evidence beyond that about doping in Benfica in football. Key word being football, afaik tho, benfica isnt only a football club.Show nested quote +About Porto being evil, yes it is. There's just undeniable and overwhelming evidence about Porto buying out referees and picking the referees for the games. There's undeniable and overwhelming evidence about Porto management running prostitution rings. There's undeniable evidence that the corruption extends to the police and judicial system in the north of Portugal. Hell, Porto players can run over people and kill people, escape the scene, be proven guilty in court, but get away without a sentence.
And yet, our president got cleared in the courts DESPITE the judge ahead of the case being a ridiculous woman who prob doesnt get laid enough and hates him more than bin laden hated americans, while at the same time u got the only former president who actually got convicted and had to run to the uk for several years to avoid prison. And dont even get me started on "pode ser ferreira". Also my club doesnt have a drug dealer for presindent whose nickname even before becoming benfica's n1 was "khadafi dos pneus", i could go on for days, but i dont want to bother other TL'ers who prob dont give a rats ass.
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That president was stealing FROM the club, not FOR the club. But yes, he was an embarrassment for the club. Would love to hear a Porto fan say that about your current President.
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Difference of opinion is always a possibility and that can get heated when it concerns our lovely game but let's keep it at heated yet friendly guys, thanks .
Also, just because something might be true for one club (i.e. Porto), doesn't mean that when Benfica does the same or something equivalent that it's suddenly ok. It's just a poor argument.
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On May 23 2013 02:59 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 02:35 Rebs wrote:
I'll bet my pet unicorn thats not happening..
Did England winning the World Cup give it away? Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 02:44 Pandemona wrote:On May 23 2013 02:04 Ferrose wrote:On May 22 2013 23:00 Pandemona wrote:
Dzeko is rumoured to be in a "swap deal" for Cavani of Napoli as it will lower the price. Cavani is coming to Arsenal, Napoli are playing in the Emirates Cup in August as part of the deal. On May 23 2013 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O Arsenal is gonna be pretty good next year when we have Rooney, Cavani, Fabregas, and Gonalons (you might think Rooney's wages are too high, but he will be taking a pay cut so he can finally get his FA Cup winners' medal when we get the treble next year and Wilshere leads England to the World Cup in 2014). Wow i applaud your optimism But im glad you agree you might title contenders if you sure up some of the departments and bring in 5-6 good quality players. Definitely. The biggest problem is the lack of depth. When Giroud went out we had no one reliable to replace him, and not even a promising youngster to give a chance. Not to mention we have like 5 midfielders (Wenger had to play Oxlade-Chamberlain at central midfield during the final game), and just 3 CBs.
Just bringing in decent or even pretty good players would no way be enough. The depth needs to have quality all the way through it, and they need to be players who can blend effortlessly into the squad if Arsenal are going to be anything like title contenders next year. Getting 3-4 players like that in one transfer window is difficult, but in the numbers Arsenal need, I don' think they will have the required depth and strength until at least January, probably next summer if i'm honest. I hope Wenger is still there to see it though.
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On May 23 2013 06:09 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 02:59 Ferrose wrote:On May 23 2013 02:35 Rebs wrote:
I'll bet my pet unicorn thats not happening..
Did England winning the World Cup give it away? On May 23 2013 02:44 Pandemona wrote:On May 23 2013 02:04 Ferrose wrote:On May 22 2013 23:00 Pandemona wrote:
Dzeko is rumoured to be in a "swap deal" for Cavani of Napoli as it will lower the price. Cavani is coming to Arsenal, Napoli are playing in the Emirates Cup in August as part of the deal. On May 23 2013 01:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough. I bet the bookies will agree with me though xD
Arsenal are the 2nd favorites next season if they buy all the players they are saying they will. Wenger knows the league, will have a stronger pre season due to having cup qualifiers, and will start the season better (probably) and with United and City with new managers who aren't dealing with title challenging and in Pellegrini's case not used to England. Wenger's Arsenal, could be a title contender :O Arsenal is gonna be pretty good next year when we have Rooney, Cavani, Fabregas, and Gonalons (you might think Rooney's wages are too high, but he will be taking a pay cut so he can finally get his FA Cup winners' medal when we get the treble next year and Wilshere leads England to the World Cup in 2014). Wow i applaud your optimism But im glad you agree you might title contenders if you sure up some of the departments and bring in 5-6 good quality players. Definitely. The biggest problem is the lack of depth. When Giroud went out we had no one reliable to replace him, and not even a promising youngster to give a chance. Not to mention we have like 5 midfielders (Wenger had to play Oxlade-Chamberlain at central midfield during the final game), and just 3 CBs. Just bringing in decent or even pretty good players would no way be enough. The depth needs to have quality all the way through it, and they need to be players who can blend effortlessly into the squad if Arsenal are going to be anything like title contenders next year. Getting 3-4 players like that in one transfer window is difficult, but in the numbers Arsenal need, I don' think they will have the required depth and strength until at least January, probably next summer if i'm honest. I hope Wenger is still there to see it though.
With the players being linked with the club it sounds more like 5-6 which is what Arsenal need. Don't forget Arsenal also have lots of kid talent to step in if they were hit with a lot of injuries, the reason they will be fine. Their experiences in the carling cup every year will help them too a challenge if they bring in enough players imo.
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Looks like Sokratis to Dortmund is done. Could be the perfect 3rd CB. Now lets hope we get Dzeko and Eriksen. :>
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So Malouda has been training for a year with the Chelsea youth squad for 80k pounds a week. I'm not playing for the Chelsea first team ether, give me 4 million pounds 
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I've heard it mentioned somewhere that Eriksen wants to have a very clear idea of his future by the end of June. If interested clubs haven't been forthcoming with their intentions he might just sign a contract extension. To be honest, I hope he does. He's great in the Dutch competition, but I don't think he's grown out of it yet and at Ajax he'll play every match he wants to and he plays CL as well. Plus, lots of Danes at Ajax.
I'm quite sure he's transferring, but I hope he won't just yet.
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I bet most of the dortmund transfers will be announced after the CL-Final.
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