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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#6781
On October 06 2012 03:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Couple questions:

1) Does anyone have any experience in doing their own workout scheme for years and making good progress, and then switching into a program, such as SS? In particular, I'm wondering whether you experienced more rapid gains than when you did your own thing.

2) What are some good leg exercises to do besides squats, deadlifts, cleans, and calf raises? I'm not doing deadlift or cleans right now due to past lower back issues, so my leg workout at the moment consists of squats, calf raises, and then a leg press machine. I'd like to get a hamstrings focused exercise, but the machine where you lay on your stomach and lift your legs is supposed to be terrible for your knees.


as far as I know, it's the leg extension that's bad for your knees, not the leg curl. Maybe they both are, idk. I'm using single leg curls to try and balance out my hamstrings, because my right is weaker than my left. Other than that, Hamstring exercises pretty much all have a low back component... Glute Ham Raises, Good Mornings, RDLs.... I'd say just start light and make sure you're doing them right, but I don't know your injury history.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
October 05 2012 19:52 GMT
#6782
Hmmm, should have been more specific about my lower back issues. I strained my back pretty badly last year (in bed for a week, in pain for a couple after that) doing deadlifts. I was going for 245lbs or something after I was already pretty drained my 3rd time doing deadlifts, and on the first rep I couldn't get it up so I planted down and really went for it, and ended up pulling something due to bad form I suppose.

Anyway, I recovered and then a couple months ago I strained my back doing cleans. This time it was much more minor (just had to take a few days off from the gym). At this point my back seems ok, as I have no issues with it doing squats in the 250lbs range, and I'm doing a ton of lower back focused exercises to try to get the damn thing stronger which seems to be working. But long story short, I don't want to do deadlifts or cleans at the moment because it's not worth the risk of injuring myself. So as long as the exercise isn't a hardcore lower back exercise like deadlifts it's ok.

I haven't tried glute ham raises, good mornings, or RDL's... I'll give those a try, thanks!
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 05 2012 21:13 GMT
#6783
On October 06 2012 04:52 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Hmmm, should have been more specific about my lower back issues. I strained my back pretty badly last year (in bed for a week, in pain for a couple after that) doing deadlifts. I was going for 245lbs or something after I was already pretty drained my 3rd time doing deadlifts, and on the first rep I couldn't get it up so I planted down and really went for it, and ended up pulling something due to bad form I suppose.

Anyway, I recovered and then a couple months ago I strained my back doing cleans. This time it was much more minor (just had to take a few days off from the gym). At this point my back seems ok, as I have no issues with it doing squats in the 250lbs range, and I'm doing a ton of lower back focused exercises to try to get the damn thing stronger which seems to be working. But long story short, I don't want to do deadlifts or cleans at the moment because it's not worth the risk of injuring myself. So as long as the exercise isn't a hardcore lower back exercise like deadlifts it's ok.

I haven't tried glute ham raises, good mornings, or RDL's... I'll give those a try, thanks!


High rep Reverse hyperextensions typically are fairly good for back rehab
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
October 05 2012 21:47 GMT
#6784
On October 06 2012 06:13 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 04:52 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Hmmm, should have been more specific about my lower back issues. I strained my back pretty badly last year (in bed for a week, in pain for a couple after that) doing deadlifts. I was going for 245lbs or something after I was already pretty drained my 3rd time doing deadlifts, and on the first rep I couldn't get it up so I planted down and really went for it, and ended up pulling something due to bad form I suppose.

Anyway, I recovered and then a couple months ago I strained my back doing cleans. This time it was much more minor (just had to take a few days off from the gym). At this point my back seems ok, as I have no issues with it doing squats in the 250lbs range, and I'm doing a ton of lower back focused exercises to try to get the damn thing stronger which seems to be working. But long story short, I don't want to do deadlifts or cleans at the moment because it's not worth the risk of injuring myself. So as long as the exercise isn't a hardcore lower back exercise like deadlifts it's ok.

I haven't tried glute ham raises, good mornings, or RDL's... I'll give those a try, thanks!


High rep Reverse hyperextensions typically are fairly good for back rehab


Ah yeah I just introduced those into my workout I did a few sets of like 18 and my back was involuntarily completely flexed for at least 30 minutes after. Crazy feeling but I can already tell it's getting stronger. All those years of slouching in my chair and walking with a slouch left me with a weak back lol... trying to fix those habits too.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
October 06 2012 20:45 GMT
#6785
has anyone ever had a sugar hangover? i havent eaten candy in years but last night i ate alot of it and today i feel like ive had like 20 beers or something, my head is about to explode... jesus christ im never eating sugar again
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 22:31:54
October 06 2012 21:34 GMT
#6786
Just got back from Tough Mudder Vegas. I'm in so much pain.

Edit: victory.
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Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
October 06 2012 21:53 GMT
#6787
2-0 In the big Ten. Won 43-12 today
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
October 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#6788
On October 07 2012 05:45 Pulimuli wrote:
has anyone ever had a sugar hangover? i havent eaten candy in years but last night i ate alot of it and today i feel like ive had like 20 beers or something, my head is about to explode... jesus christ im never eating sugar again

rofl nice
i know what you're talking about. i can't even eat like more than 2 or 3 small pieces of candy without feeling gross.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 07 2012 00:38 GMT
#6789
On October 07 2012 09:31 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:45 Pulimuli wrote:
has anyone ever had a sugar hangover? i havent eaten candy in years but last night i ate alot of it and today i feel like ive had like 20 beers or something, my head is about to explode... jesus christ im never eating sugar again

rofl nice
i know what you're talking about. i can't even eat like more than 2 or 3 small pieces of candy without feeling gross.


When I carb load I eat chocolate/potatoes or some ice cream. I think u can avoid sugar hangover by eating fat/protein before sleep as your last meal. The sugar blood level fluctuation during sleep is what gives the feel like shit feeling when waking up.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
October 07 2012 02:55 GMT
#6790
lol you guys and your sugar hangovers

i'm a sugar addict with a high tolerance... i can't go 1 week without some kind of sour candy or a nice 2 litre jug of nestea with i finish within an hour.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
October 07 2012 16:42 GMT
#6791
I am horrified that this seems not to be faked.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
October 07 2012 16:56 GMT
#6792
Without insulting crossfit, why do people feel so proud of putting their children in such a position? "Hey look I can front squat with an extra 10lb hanging on my chest!" Alright then put the extra 10lb on the bar instead. Makes no sense to me at all =.=
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 07 2012 17:02 GMT
#6793
Crossfit retard.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 07 2012 17:14 GMT
#6794
Goal for next Tough Mudder: Solo Everest.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 07 2012 18:34 GMT
#6795
Crosstard.

Went to store. Bought tons of every type of food.

Victory.

Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
October 07 2012 18:42 GMT
#6796
Had my first day back at the gym today after being out with a cold and ear infection for 10 days. I start off with a set of squats with just the bar, then 1 minute after the squats I get massive cramps in the quads of my both my legs. Ended up working up to 130kg squats but the cramps stayed there the whole day. I'm going to be in horrible pain tomorrow :p
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
October 07 2012 22:19 GMT
#6797
gz Risen.

That crossfit video... Everytime I see a video like that it always turns out to be crossfit.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 07 2012 22:33 GMT
#6798
Crossfit is pretty legit most of the time. As with anything there are people who take it to extremes, and then it just looks stupid. I have a cousin that runs a "box" which is apparently what they call gyms. She and her husband do most of the coaching and programming and shit... They do a few too many things "for time" and don't really worry about strength at all, at least for my taste but it's not BAD, it's just different goals.

Both teams won in Rugby yesterday, which makes both of our teams 3-1 in league. Puts us in third place behind Army (who we haven't played) and Stonybrook (who is our -1), I think. D3 team I'm not sure where we stack up. I got to hit people though, it was cool. Glad to be playing again.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 07 2012 22:44 GMT
#6799
On October 08 2012 07:33 phyre112 wrote:
I got to hit people though, it was cool.


And that's why martial arts are great too. Sparring, and whaling on a bag before class, absolutely excellent for relieving stress.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20166 Posts
October 08 2012 00:07 GMT
#6800
On October 08 2012 07:33 phyre112 wrote:
Crossfit is pretty legit most of the time. As with anything there are people who take it to extremes, and then it just looks stupid. I have a cousin that runs a "box" which is apparently what they call gyms. She and her husband do most of the coaching and programming and shit... They do a few too many things "for time" and don't really worry about strength at all, at least for my taste but it's not BAD, it's just different goals.

Both teams won in Rugby yesterday, which makes both of our teams 3-1 in league. Puts us in third place behind Army (who we haven't played) and Stonybrook (who is our -1), I think. D3 team I'm not sure where we stack up. I got to hit people though, it was cool. Glad to be playing again.

Nice :-D I tackled someone so hard on the first play of the game that I chipped my tooth lol. Should really invest I a mouth guard. At least they had the sense not to run at me after that.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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