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mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
August 09 2012 00:43 GMT
#6001
On August 09 2012 05:49 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 05:10 decafchicken wrote:
On August 09 2012 03:26 funkie wrote:
I'd rather stop posting number than to have to use fitocracy, their app is a nightmare, and it's troublesome to say the least.

I'll just keep my posts "update related" :3.

Lift big and eat big you guys ;D

Same. Its especially a pain for oly lifting

Heck, it's a pain for SS

I use fitocracy and am doing SS I find it really easy to use. Are you saving your routines? Makes it as simple as putting in numbers which most do while posting here anyway. My username on fitocracy is same as here and I'm part of the TL group so if anyone wants to follow go ahead
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 09 2012 00:51 GMT
#6002
@Phyre

I'd recommend doing both. I focused a lot on my clean at first a lot and then it took a while for my jerk to catch up. You can do jerk work off the rack but it will be a pain till you learn how to do repeat jerks and basically kill all the nerve endings in your collar bone lol.


On August 09 2012 09:08 Catch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 08:58 phyre112 wrote:
On August 09 2012 05:10 decafchicken wrote:
On August 09 2012 03:26 funkie wrote:
I'd rather stop posting number than to have to use fitocracy, their app is a nightmare, and it's troublesome to say the least.

I'll just keep my posts "update related" :3.

Lift big and eat big you guys ;D

Same. Its especially a pain for oly lifting


I just tried to set up routines to track my new workouts. It's fine as a beginner, but I can see how it would be a problem for you or dimsum. No option for any partials except snatch balance and hang clean.

When learning the C&J is it smartest to just "jerk anything that you succeed in cleaning" or should I also spend time on just the jerk? Seems like it would be a pain in the ass to set up to practice just the jerk.


I believe you can just tag things and make them a custom entry. Not too sure about this since I haven't had to do it. You can also save routines so you don't have to go through and find the same thing every time. I'm not in olympic lifting, so I don't know how bad it is for that, but I actually like fitocracy lol


Its high variety and # of sets (low reps per set) make it a pain in the ass. As well as the various exercises (snatch pull + snatch+overhead squat, etc)
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 09 2012 00:59 GMT
#6003
On August 09 2012 09:51 decafchicken wrote:
@Phyre

I'd recommend doing both. I focused a lot on my clean at first a lot and then it took a while for my jerk to catch up. You can do jerk work off the rack but it will be a pain till you learn how to do repeat jerks and basically kill all the nerve endings in your collar bone lol.


Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 09:08 Catch wrote:
On August 09 2012 08:58 phyre112 wrote:
On August 09 2012 05:10 decafchicken wrote:
On August 09 2012 03:26 funkie wrote:
I'd rather stop posting number than to have to use fitocracy, their app is a nightmare, and it's troublesome to say the least.

I'll just keep my posts "update related" :3.

Lift big and eat big you guys ;D

Same. Its especially a pain for oly lifting


I just tried to set up routines to track my new workouts. It's fine as a beginner, but I can see how it would be a problem for you or dimsum. No option for any partials except snatch balance and hang clean.

When learning the C&J is it smartest to just "jerk anything that you succeed in cleaning" or should I also spend time on just the jerk? Seems like it would be a pain in the ass to set up to practice just the jerk.


I believe you can just tag things and make them a custom entry. Not too sure about this since I haven't had to do it. You can also save routines so you don't have to go through and find the same thing every time. I'm not in olympic lifting, so I don't know how bad it is for that, but I actually like fitocracy lol


Its high variety and # of sets (low reps per set) make it a pain in the ass. As well as the various exercises (snatch pull + snatch+overhead squat, etc)


@catch, I've used routines for simple things, like when I was doing smolov, or my push/pull split. The site is well set up for doing something like that, but their app is terrible, so I would get home and forget if I'd done 6 or 7 reps on a particular set, or "did I make all the reps on my third or fifth set of press" and I found that the farther I got in lifting, the more erratic my training began, and the more inferior fitocracy was to a simple notebook.

If you're doing oly lifting, it's more that they just don't have half the lifts you'll be doing. There is no option to mark something as a "snatch pull" and there's really not something similar in there that you can log it as for giggles. If you're doing a complex of two or more partials, forget it. Again, it's inferior to a notebook - and the social aspect feels forced to the extent that I much prefer a separate thread here in TLHF.

@decaf, thanks. Will get right to work smashing my collar bone into dust and doing extra jerks out of the rack, even if it will take forever.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
August 09 2012 03:13 GMT
#6004
@phyre112, the funniest part about learning the cnj is discovering whether you have imbalances between your left and right shoulder size. My left anterior deltoid was both weaker and smaller than my right so whenever i racked the bar at first, it'd dig into my left clavicle but my right one would be just fine. Now I have a ridiculous callus and permanent bruise there.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 06:46:17
August 09 2012 03:43 GMT
#6005
On August 09 2012 12:13 MeShiet wrote:
@phyre112, the funniest part about learning the cnj is discovering whether you have imbalances between your left and right shoulder size. My left anterior deltoid was both weaker and smaller than my right so whenever i racked the bar at first, it'd dig into my left clavicle but my right one would be just fine. Now I have a ridiculous callus and permanent bruise there.


I've been front squatting long enough to know that; I have to push just a little bit harder with my left shoulder, but I've done enough dumbbell pressing/incline pressing that there isn't much difference between the two anymore.


Several hours later edit, but I don't want to double post:

Just drank a whole bunch of gin (in place of the muscle relaxers that I don't have) and, rather than foam rolling my hip I took a metal dumbbell handle and ATTACKED that shit. I haven't been able to fully extend my leg in two days, but that felt amazing. Better than sex, by miles. I can tell that my SI joint is not yet back in place, because there's still some pain deep in the hip, but it's no longer radiating into the hamstring and up the spine - I can bend at the hips (lowering my back) and I can straighten my entire right leg now without shouting. I never thought to create muscle relaxation before foam rolling, and it only just hit me how to get more pressure on the spot than a foam roller allows (5lb metal stick ftw).

I'm going to go do some more work on this. Hopefully the pain goes away and the joint pops back in. MAGIC I SAY!
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 09 2012 07:20 GMT
#6006
I haven' tsaved routines. Haven't used it since like a year and a half ago when routines didn't exist.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
August 09 2012 07:34 GMT
#6007
I dont see whats so difficult about using fitocracy. I write down what Im doing in the gym on my cell and when I get home I transfer it to fitocracy. takes like 2 minutes max to type everything in.

and I like how you can comment directly on someone's workout. doesnt feel forced at all.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
August 09 2012 07:49 GMT
#6008
With routines and SS it takes literally 30 seconds to log your workout.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 09 2012 08:16 GMT
#6009
I use Fitocracy, but the whole thing seems very impersonal. There are like 2-3 dozen people that post in this thread, yet there are over 500 members of the TL Fitocracy group. Who are these people? I'm guilty of having a different username there (I'm Ras in 22nd place /flex) and I know others have different names too, which certainly hurts the camaraderie of the site. Also, like 98% of logged workouts are routine and there's nothing to talk about. Having a thread for people to post new PRs and stuff is very useful because there's no way anyone can keep track of every TL person on Fitocracy.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
August 09 2012 08:30 GMT
#6010
Well, there is a thread now http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359197 Thanks phyre!

I had still hoped to bring more people to fitocracy, because as you say I really don't recognize many from this thread .. But to each his own I guess
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 09 2012 09:29 GMT
#6011
On August 09 2012 17:30 zatic wrote:
Well, there is a thread now http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359197 Thanks phyre!

I had still hoped to bring more people to fitocracy, because as you say I really don't recognize many from this thread .. But to each his own I guess

For me pen and paper is superior, as you can find the emotion (and condition of hands haha) back in the ink. If I just made a PR I'm proud of, my writing is really large and shaky and I basically sprawl all over the paper. Especially deadlift PR's are messy as my fingers are completely done. But yeah, to each their own.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 09 2012 10:35 GMT
#6012
On August 09 2012 12:43 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 12:13 MeShiet wrote:
@phyre112, the funniest part about learning the cnj is discovering whether you have imbalances between your left and right shoulder size. My left anterior deltoid was both weaker and smaller than my right so whenever i racked the bar at first, it'd dig into my left clavicle but my right one would be just fine. Now I have a ridiculous callus and permanent bruise there.


I've been front squatting long enough to know that; I have to push just a little bit harder with my left shoulder, but I've done enough dumbbell pressing/incline pressing that there isn't much difference between the two anymore.


Several hours later edit, but I don't want to double post:

Just drank a whole bunch of gin (in place of the muscle relaxers that I don't have) and, rather than foam rolling my hip I took a metal dumbbell handle and ATTACKED that shit. I haven't been able to fully extend my leg in two days, but that felt amazing. Better than sex, by miles. I can tell that my SI joint is not yet back in place, because there's still some pain deep in the hip, but it's no longer radiating into the hamstring and up the spine - I can bend at the hips (lowering my back) and I can straighten my entire right leg now without shouting. I never thought to create muscle relaxation before foam rolling, and it only just hit me how to get more pressure on the spot than a foam roller allows (5lb metal stick ftw).

I'm going to go do some more work on this. Hopefully the pain goes away and the joint pops back in. MAGIC I SAY!


ahh, dumbell good idea. i just had a dream (i think!?) about my upper back being really nice and straight without any problems. then when i woke up properly i was SO disappointed that it felt shitty , i thought i had healed it in the night!! i want someone to stick a fist up there. will see if dumbell works :/
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#6013
On August 09 2012 12:13 MeShiet wrote:
@phyre112, the funniest part about learning the cnj is discovering whether you have imbalances between your left and right shoulder size. My left anterior deltoid was both weaker and smaller than my right so whenever i racked the bar at first, it'd dig into my left clavicle but my right one would be just fine. Now I have a ridiculous callus and permanent bruise there.

Yea my left side has taken a beating but the collar bone has a big enough bump where it has evened out now lol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 09 2012 12:11 GMT
#6014
On August 09 2012 02:55 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 02:50 phyre112 wrote:
Damn, sore as tell in my delts and traps, and I didn't even lift anything over 65 lbs yesterday! Reading up on the lifts, checking out videos, i'm going to try full versions when I go in tomorrow. will videotape.

think I have the routine figured out... pretty much ripped it from 70s big for beginning lifters. two strength days, two technique days. Monday c&j/snatch, focusing more on the c&j. Tuesday back squats and pressing. Thursday front squats, snatch/c&j focusing on the snatch. Saturday back squats and rowing.

making chirp appointment tonight, because my back kept me up until 4am last night. painkillers don't seem to help. drinking does though.

Let us know if the chiro helps. I'm starting a glute-specific routine specifically for strengthening the posterior sling etc. and hopefully that solves the chronic SI pain. Might help if that's what it is for you?

So did a light run through of the routine yesterday, so not full sets or with any weights. Aaaand my hamstrings are sore this morning. So I think that confirms my suspicions?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
August 09 2012 13:00 GMT
#6015
Can anyone recommend some stretches/exercises or whatever for improving hamstring mobility? I'd like to be able to touch my toes without bending my knees and do a proper, comfortable third world squat.
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 09 2012 13:36 GMT
#6016
On August 09 2012 22:00 SoleSteeler wrote:
Can anyone recommend some stretches/exercises or whatever for improving hamstring mobility? I'd like to be able to touch my toes without bending my knees and do a proper, comfortable third world squat.


You just said it . All the stretches that involves reaching for your toes, standing and sitting. Do squats hindu, weighted, against a wall. And if you want an answer thats more organized and not boring, most types of yoga (I personally do love bikram yoga but you're gonna get quite a bit more than you bargained for with that) and the author of the third world squats recommendation to drop to a squat position for a minute a day or however long you feel like really and hold.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 09 2012 13:52 GMT
#6017
On August 09 2012 22:00 SoleSteeler wrote:
Can anyone recommend some stretches/exercises or whatever for improving hamstring mobility? I'd like to be able to touch my toes without bending my knees and do a proper, comfortable third world squat.

When I stretched to be able to touch my toes without bending my knees I just sat with my back flat against a wall with my legs straight in front of me. I was really not flexible so that was kinda hard first Then I just started to put things under my feet when I started to get more flexible. And after that I just sat there and tried to grab my toes and pull me forward, with a straight back of course.

As for squats I just did this:
http://www.californiastrength.com/cal-strength-exercises/viewvideo/50/cal-strength-exercises/flexibility-exercises-for-the-lower-body-in-olympic-weightlifting
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
August 09 2012 16:16 GMT
#6018
On August 09 2012 09:59 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 09:51 decafchicken wrote:
@Phyre

I'd recommend doing both. I focused a lot on my clean at first a lot and then it took a while for my jerk to catch up. You can do jerk work off the rack but it will be a pain till you learn how to do repeat jerks and basically kill all the nerve endings in your collar bone lol.


On August 09 2012 09:08 Catch wrote:
On August 09 2012 08:58 phyre112 wrote:
On August 09 2012 05:10 decafchicken wrote:
On August 09 2012 03:26 funkie wrote:
I'd rather stop posting number than to have to use fitocracy, their app is a nightmare, and it's troublesome to say the least.

I'll just keep my posts "update related" :3.

Lift big and eat big you guys ;D

Same. Its especially a pain for oly lifting


I just tried to set up routines to track my new workouts. It's fine as a beginner, but I can see how it would be a problem for you or dimsum. No option for any partials except snatch balance and hang clean.

When learning the C&J is it smartest to just "jerk anything that you succeed in cleaning" or should I also spend time on just the jerk? Seems like it would be a pain in the ass to set up to practice just the jerk.


I believe you can just tag things and make them a custom entry. Not too sure about this since I haven't had to do it. You can also save routines so you don't have to go through and find the same thing every time. I'm not in olympic lifting, so I don't know how bad it is for that, but I actually like fitocracy lol


Its high variety and # of sets (low reps per set) make it a pain in the ass. As well as the various exercises (snatch pull + snatch+overhead squat, etc)




@catch, I've used routines for mple things, like when I was doing smolov, or my push/pull split. The site is well set up for doing something like that, but their app is terrible, so I would get home and forget if I'd done 6 or 7 reps on a particular set, or "did I make all the reps on my third or fifth set of press" and I found that the farther I got in lifting, the more erratic my training began, and the more inferior fitocracy was to a simple notebook.

If you're doing oly lifting, it's more that they just don't have half the lifts you'll be doing. There is no option to mark something as a "snatch pull" and there's really not something similar in there that you can log it as for giggles. If you're doing a complex of two or more partials, forget it. Again, it's inferior to a notebook - and the social aspect feels forced to the extent that I much prefer a separate thread here in TLHF.

@decaf, thanks. Will get right to work smashing my collar bone into dust and doing extra jerks out of the rack, even if it will take forever.


Fair enough. I've run into that problem trying to log a few bodyweight exercises, so I can imagine how annoying it is for an oly lifter. I've also been there with forgetting sets and stuff. Now that I'm on madcows, which is extremely structured,
I forgot about it. Lol
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extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
August 09 2012 19:36 GMT
#6019
Done back-squats and some shoulder traning today.

Squats:
10x1 100kg
10x 140kg
5x1 180kg
1x1 210kg
Stay strong, forever strong!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 09 2012 19:39 GMT
#6020
I'm not intimidated by any means XD

extr3me, we've been asked to post weightlifting logs and specifics in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359197

Cheers
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