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glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
January 18 2012 13:35 GMT
#541
So I'm on the 3rd week of the first 5/3/1 cycle, I used only 90% of my calculated max for my first cycle, do I use the old numbers but with 100% or the new ones from this cycle? (My calculated numbers got up a bit in this cycle)
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 18 2012 13:45 GMT
#542
On January 18 2012 21:49 sJarl wrote:

got my gf to start ss and to "bulk". so proud.

I would not have understood you in the slightest five months ago. Now, I brag about the permanent 1/2 gallon of protein shake that's in her fridge haha. Fucking awesome that your gf wants to bulk up. My gf is really girly girly, so no way she's doing that, but I like that her eyes go wide when I tell her I deadlift 140kg's.

I originally wanted to say 'i love it when they squeal when I talk about my numbers' but that makes me sound like a rapist.

Unbelievably good session today. I felt awful due to some personal problems, but I just focussed on getting myself angry (make NOISE, CLUNK THOSE FUCKING WEIGHTS ON THERE, make the 2.5kg's sound like a garbage truck at three in the morning np). Turned out to be the best deadlifting session of my life, holy shit did I throw that 127,5kg around. Felt like I could double the weight.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#543
On January 18 2012 22:35 glurio wrote:
So I'm on the 3rd week of the first 5/3/1 cycle, I used only 90% of my calculated max for my first cycle, do I use the old numbers but with 100% or the new ones from this cycle? (My calculated numbers got up a bit in this cycle)


No, you just add 2.5/5lbs on the calculated max for cycle 2. It takes some time until you start making real progress but the idea is that when you do it is sustainable and thus you'll manage to get even more progress.

On January 18 2012 22:45 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:49 sJarl wrote:

got my gf to start ss and to "bulk". so proud.

I would not have understood you in the slightest five months ago. Now, I brag about the permanent 1/2 gallon of protein shake that's in her fridge haha. Fucking awesome that your gf wants to bulk up. My gf is really girly girly, so no way she's doing that, but I like that her eyes go wide when I tell her I deadlift 140kg's.

I originally wanted to say 'i love it when they squeal when I talk about my numbers' but that makes me sound like a rapist.

Unbelievably good session today. I felt awful due to some personal problems, but I just focussed on getting myself angry (make NOISE, CLUNK THOSE FUCKING WEIGHTS ON THERE, make the 2.5kg's sound like a garbage truck at three in the morning np). Turned out to be the best deadlifting session of my life, holy shit did I throw that 127,5kg around. Felt like I could double the weight.


hehehe, she just realized that she was way too thin and wanted to do something about it. Then she found out that eating plenty and lifting weights was the best way to do it.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
January 18 2012 14:06 GMT
#544
On January 18 2012 22:56 sJarl wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 18 2012 22:35 glurio wrote:
So I'm on the 3rd week of the first 5/3/1 cycle, I used only 90% of my calculated max for my first cycle, do I use the old numbers but with 100% or the new ones from this cycle? (My calculated numbers got up a bit in this cycle)


No, you just add 2.5/5lbs on the calculated max for cycle 2. It takes some time until you start making real progress but the idea is that when you do it is sustainable and thus you'll manage to get even more progress.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 18 2012 22:45 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:49 sJarl wrote:

got my gf to start ss and to "bulk". so proud.

I would not have understood you in the slightest five months ago. Now, I brag about the permanent 1/2 gallon of protein shake that's in her fridge haha. Fucking awesome that your gf wants to bulk up. My gf is really girly girly, so no way she's doing that, but I like that her eyes go wide when I tell her I deadlift 140kg's.

I originally wanted to say 'i love it when they squeal when I talk about my numbers' but that makes me sound like a rapist.

Unbelievably good session today. I felt awful due to some personal problems, but I just focussed on getting myself angry (make NOISE, CLUNK THOSE FUCKING WEIGHTS ON THERE, make the 2.5kg's sound like a garbage truck at three in the morning np). Turned out to be the best deadlifting session of my life, holy shit did I throw that 127,5kg around. Felt like I could double the weight.


hehehe, she just realized that she was way too thin and wanted to do something about it. Then she found out that eating plenty and lifting weights was the best way to do it.



Just to be sure, so as an example say i had 100kg bench press as my max on my first cycle, but used only 90% of it, so 90kg, would i be using 102.5kg or 92.5kg as my new weight?
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
January 18 2012 14:11 GMT
#545
On January 18 2012 22:56 sJarl wrote:
hehehe, she just realized that she was way too thin and wanted to do something about it. Then she found out that eating plenty and lifting weights was the best way to do it.


marry her THIS INSTANT!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 14:36:25
January 18 2012 14:32 GMT
#546
On January 18 2012 22:45 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:49 sJarl wrote:

got my gf to start ss and to "bulk". so proud.

I would not have understood you in the slightest five months ago. Now, I brag about the permanent 1/2 gallon of protein shake that's in her fridge haha. Fucking awesome that your gf wants to bulk up. My gf is really girly girly, so no way she's doing that, but I like that her eyes go wide when I tell her I deadlift 140kg's.

I originally wanted to say 'i love it when they squeal when I talk about my numbers' but that makes me sound like a rapist.

Unbelievably good session today. I felt awful due to some personal problems, but I just focussed on getting myself angry (make NOISE, CLUNK THOSE FUCKING WEIGHTS ON THERE, make the 2.5kg's sound like a garbage truck at three in the morning np). Turned out to be the best deadlifting session of my life, holy shit did I throw that 127,5kg around. Felt like I could double the weight.


race me to 160kg deadlift x 1?

go? .

edit: I'm so sore from monday still, it's going to be a bitch doing front Squats and PowerClean, then trying technique work on the clean and jerk.

Oh well. gotta endure!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
January 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#547
On January 18 2012 23:11 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 22:56 sJarl wrote:
hehehe, she just realized that she was way too thin and wanted to do something about it. Then she found out that eating plenty and lifting weights was the best way to do it.


marry her THIS INSTANT!


and you guys can do "cardio" together.

if you know what I mean.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
January 18 2012 15:13 GMT
#548
On January 18 2012 23:06 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 22:56 sJarl wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 18 2012 22:35 glurio wrote:
So I'm on the 3rd week of the first 5/3/1 cycle, I used only 90% of my calculated max for my first cycle, do I use the old numbers but with 100% or the new ones from this cycle? (My calculated numbers got up a bit in this cycle)


No, you just add 2.5/5lbs on the calculated max for cycle 2. It takes some time until you start making real progress but the idea is that when you do it is sustainable and thus you'll manage to get even more progress.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 18 2012 22:45 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:49 sJarl wrote:

got my gf to start ss and to "bulk". so proud.

I would not have understood you in the slightest five months ago. Now, I brag about the permanent 1/2 gallon of protein shake that's in her fridge haha. Fucking awesome that your gf wants to bulk up. My gf is really girly girly, so no way she's doing that, but I like that her eyes go wide when I tell her I deadlift 140kg's.

I originally wanted to say 'i love it when they squeal when I talk about my numbers' but that makes me sound like a rapist.

Unbelievably good session today. I felt awful due to some personal problems, but I just focussed on getting myself angry (make NOISE, CLUNK THOSE FUCKING WEIGHTS ON THERE, make the 2.5kg's sound like a garbage truck at three in the morning np). Turned out to be the best deadlifting session of my life, holy shit did I throw that 127,5kg around. Felt like I could double the weight.


hehehe, she just realized that she was way too thin and wanted to do something about it. Then she found out that eating plenty and lifting weights was the best way to do it.



Just to be sure, so as an example say i had 100kg bench press as my max on my first cycle, but used only 90% of it, so 90kg, would i be using 102.5kg or 92.5kg as my new weight?

92,5kg
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
January 18 2012 16:18 GMT
#549
Yesterday

111.1kg squat
83.9kg bench
failed 9kg chinups, 5-4.5-2

Going to continue ss advanced novice for a month or two, and try to up the calories
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 18 2012 16:36 GMT
#550
lol, plenty of cardio being done.

@Zafrumi: 100% a keeper, no questions there.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:28:03
January 18 2012 19:25 GMT
#551
I'm finally past the worst in terms of DOMS after my workouts now. Thank the pantheon of gods for that. Now I'm just generally sore most days instead of totally debilitatingly sore. Now it feels like I can go even harder! FUCK YEAH!


On January 18 2012 07:50 phyre112 wrote:
Tips for taking workout advice:

When taking advice for the squat, DL, or power clean I generally ask the advice giver to demonstrate, and then gesture at the loaded bar. One of three results follows:

#1 - advisor mumbles something about not being tired for their "leg day" next week and walks off (discount advice)
#2 - advisor completes a set with shockingly terrible form and miniscule range of motion (discount advice)
#3 - advisor whips out a perfect set with my work weight without appearing to put in any effort (consider advice and adjust form accordingly)

When taking advice for the OHP, rows and bench, I'll usually try it once and if I don't like it, go back to what I was doing. I'm much more confident in my bench form than I used to be, but it has taken TONS of trial and error, youtube videos, and a little bit of helpful advice to get to where I am. I figure the chance of hurting myself isn't as high here as with the squat or DL, so I can take a chance just once on something that could help me.


He gave me the breath advice, which I tried to adjust for a rep or two before realizing that it made no sense. Then he told me that I shouldn't lock out at teh top which I ignored alltogether. I then watched him do a pathetically low ROM bench set and then just continued to ignore him for the rest of the day. At least he didn't talk to me during my squats. I have yet to see anybody at that gym even put the barbell on their back.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
January 18 2012 19:54 GMT
#552
On January 19 2012 04:25 MajinMojo wrote:
I'm finally past the worst in terms of DOMS after my workouts now. Thank the pantheon of gods for that. Now I'm just generally sore most days instead of totally debilitatingly sore. Now it feels like I can go even harder! FUCK YEAH!


Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 07:50 phyre112 wrote:
Tips for taking workout advice:

When taking advice for the squat, DL, or power clean I generally ask the advice giver to demonstrate, and then gesture at the loaded bar. One of three results follows:

#1 - advisor mumbles something about not being tired for their "leg day" next week and walks off (discount advice)
#2 - advisor completes a set with shockingly terrible form and miniscule range of motion (discount advice)
#3 - advisor whips out a perfect set with my work weight without appearing to put in any effort (consider advice and adjust form accordingly)

When taking advice for the OHP, rows and bench, I'll usually try it once and if I don't like it, go back to what I was doing. I'm much more confident in my bench form than I used to be, but it has taken TONS of trial and error, youtube videos, and a little bit of helpful advice to get to where I am. I figure the chance of hurting myself isn't as high here as with the squat or DL, so I can take a chance just once on something that could help me.


He gave me the breath advice, which I tried to adjust for a rep or two before realizing that it made no sense. Then he told me that I shouldn't lock out at teh top which I ignored alltogether. I then watched him do a pathetically low ROM bench set and then just continued to ignore him for the rest of the day. At least he didn't talk to me during my squats. I have yet to see anybody at that gym even put the barbell on their back.

PT told a friend of mine that benching with feet on the ground will hurt your back, and that they're supposed to be on the bench or in the air.
I think the requirements to becoming PT in Denmark in an average gym is to know someone who works out atleast once.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#553
On January 19 2012 04:25 MajinMojo wrote:
I'm finally past the worst in terms of DOMS after my workouts now. Thank the pantheon of gods for that. Now I'm just generally sore most days instead of totally debilitatingly sore. Now it feels like I can go even harder! FUCK YEAH!


Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 07:50 phyre112 wrote:
Tips for taking workout advice:

When taking advice for the squat, DL, or power clean I generally ask the advice giver to demonstrate, and then gesture at the loaded bar. One of three results follows:

#1 - advisor mumbles something about not being tired for their "leg day" next week and walks off (discount advice)
#2 - advisor completes a set with shockingly terrible form and miniscule range of motion (discount advice)
#3 - advisor whips out a perfect set with my work weight without appearing to put in any effort (consider advice and adjust form accordingly)

When taking advice for the OHP, rows and bench, I'll usually try it once and if I don't like it, go back to what I was doing. I'm much more confident in my bench form than I used to be, but it has taken TONS of trial and error, youtube videos, and a little bit of helpful advice to get to where I am. I figure the chance of hurting myself isn't as high here as with the squat or DL, so I can take a chance just once on something that could help me.


He gave me the breath advice, which I tried to adjust for a rep or two before realizing that it made no sense. Then he told me that I shouldn't lock out at teh top which I ignored alltogether. I then watched him do a pathetically low ROM bench set and then just continued to ignore him for the rest of the day. At least he didn't talk to me during my squats. I have yet to see anybody at that gym even put the barbell on their back.


only doms i got was my lats, weird
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MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
January 18 2012 20:32 GMT
#554
I got bad DOMS in my legs (obviously) especially since on every day that I haven't been lifting I've been playing hockey. For the past two weeks I have been absolutely dead; barely able to skate even two days after squatting. Today is the first true "rest" day of no lifting and no skating I've had since starting up SS once again. And it's the first day that I actually feel really good after a lifting day. Now I can't wait to get back in the gym.

The cool thing is my 17yo cousin has been going to the gym a lot after school so sometimes we run into each other at the gym if I am able to stay a little later. I want to get him into SS because I see him and his one friend doing a bunch of bullshit with basically no program. My uncle more or less told me to get him into lifting properly once I told him that it would improve his on ice performance instead of all that crap he was doing. I think my aunt is just happy that he's actually going to the gym instead of coming home and playing Skyrim all day.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 20:52:26
January 18 2012 20:51 GMT
#555
anyone wanna race to 240kg before the end of the year? (wraps + belt allowed :p)

Squat: 122.5kgx7x5
BP: light work

So my squatting was tough again (yeah, smolov is a nightmare) but not as hard as monday, only had to lie down for 10 mins and was almost recovered. Also my lower back was a lot less sore, as I focused on keeping my abs tight at the bottom of every rep. Can't wait to try my new PR, but still a week and a half of nightmare. Also been doing some mobility work to aid in recovery and help with my aches (mostly hip flexor stretch, shoulder dislocated, and some ankle/knee mobility work)
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
January 18 2012 21:02 GMT
#556
On September 23 2011 03:06 Dromar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [previous update] +
Hey guys, congrats on the new subforum!

I figured I would post an update here. It's been about 4 months now since I started living/eating more healthily. I've lost 34 lbs, and it's really great eating healthy food. In conjunction with eating healthier, I've learned to cook many of the meals I eat, so that's a plus too, as I think it's a pretty important skill to have. I started teaching full time this semester, so I was thrown off for a bit because certain days of mine are really busy now, so what I started doing is cooking a large meal the night before, eating half for dinner, and taking the other half to work, so as to avoid eating less healthy and more expensive alternatives.

My current weight is 211lb, my goal is 140? I guess, just chosen because according to the internet, that's the upper bound for healthy weight of someone of my height (5'4"), though mentally I'm taking it in small steps, each 5 lb increment is my goal, and once I reach it, I go for the next 5 lbs.

Interesting story: A couple months ago, I might be walking by a mirror and look at myself and I'd say "Well, you've got a long way to go, but you're getting better every day!" But a couple weeks ago, I noticed myself in the mirror, and thought "DAMN, you look like shit!" It's funny because in that I noticed a psychological change; before I thought of myself as an unhealthy person trying to be more healthy, whereas now I think of myself as a healthy person whose body hasn't caught up yet. I'd definitely say the proper education about nutrition and health makes a huge impact. Simply because I know how little nutritional value there is in many less healthy foods, they're less attractive to me. It's actually really easy!

Currently I'm eating almost exclusively fruits and vegetables. I've been tracking my nutrition on fitday, and that has been really helpful too. I'm focusing on eating 1800 calories on days when I lift weights, and a bit less on days when I don't. From a recent motivational update (I think Snapplecakes'?) I figured 1400 was a good number to shoot for on off days, but I'm a bit more lenient on that.

As I mentioned, I'm lifting weights, though I don't have a gym membership, I'm just doing what I can at home. I bought a barbell and some weights and am doing squats/DL/overhead press/ bent-over row, etc. I plan on getting more proper equipment after I move into a new place in a month or so, and let some paychecks come in from teaching.

Anyway, thanks for the help guys. The resources here were invaluable. A couple quick questions:

1. Where are you guys getting your calories? As I've been paying more attention to the stuff on fitday, and removing breads/pasta (especially) and other less healthy foods, I've found it actually difficult to consume 1800 or whatever calories. So I did some math on my weekly consumption. Each week I consume approx.:

7 lbs of meat (chicken, beef, maybe some pork) ~ 3500 calories
various veggies with the meat ~ 1500 calories
fruit (nectarine or bananas are my favorite, 1/day) ~ 500 calories
a dozen O-3 eggs ~ 1200 calories
the occasional less healthy food/alcohol ~ 1500 calories

This comes out to only 8200 calories. On an 1800/1400 plan weightlifting 4 days/week, I should be consuming 11400 calories. So I recently wondered, "where are those other calories coming from?" I'm still trying to figure this out, so I'm going to pay more attention to what I eat for the next few weeks. But I feel like this must be something you guys have dealt with. All of the above leaves me wondering where you guys get that last 3200 calories each week. Should I be eating more meat? More fruit? Vegetables? I mean, vegetables don't really have many calories in them. I thought I was supposed keep the fruit in moderation. So I guess I'm not sure here.

2. I really don't like the taste or smell of fish, and it seems expensive. What's so great about fish, and is there an alternative to getting that nutrition besides buying something expensive and I don't even like the taste of?

Thanks for your help.



Hey guys, just thought I would update.

So I've been going for about 8 months now, and as of this morning I weighed in at 186lb, for a total of 59 lb lost! Goal is 160? I guess I still don't exactly have a definite goal down. My goal really is to just keep doing what I'm doing - eating healthy foods and exercising regularly, and I'll assess things as I go.

Working out has been going good. I've been progressing on my lifts, albeit slowly, which I assume is normal for someone on a caloric deficit. Aside from the little dizziness episode on Sunday. I've attributed that problem to the fact that I was out drinking/partying on Saturday night, and maybe that didn't leave me in the best condition to exert myself. Anyway I just lowered my weight a bit to be on the safe side, and I'll work my way up again as comfortable.

My usual meals are things like:
Taco Salad (lettuce, seasoned beef, shredded cheese)
Meat + Vegetables (lean chicken, pork, or beef, grilled, with usually a bag of frozen mixed vegetables)
Stir Fry (beef or chicken with mushrooms, broccoli, pea pods, carrots, anything else I feel like throwing in)
and every once in a while something a bit less healthy but very convenient and tasty.

One difficulty I've been having lately is that I'm currently sort of "between jobs," and as a result, I'm just not active during the day. I came to realize that when I was busy, several good things were happening: first, I didn't have time to be tempted by unhealthy food (like chips/candy), and second, I was actually getting a reasonable amount of activity. Thinking about it, when I was teaching full time, I was walking about 2 miles every day (from the parking lot to my office to the classroom and back), and spending 4 hours/day teaching (standing/walking/talking). Whereas now I'm spending way too much time either in front of the computer or the TV (like right now ). This has definitely had a negative effect on my efforts over the past month or so.

I need to commit myself to something that I can focus my time on so that I'm busy, but something that isn't in front of the computer (so no "get good at SC2" or "write a book"). I live outside of town, and as I said I'm between jobs, so I can't exactly afford to drive into town every day and spend money. If you have any suggestions, let me know. For now, I have a Wii so I'm gonna try out that boxing game I got a couple months ago.

Thanks for the support and the insight, and I'll be back in 4 more months (or maybe sooner )
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
January 18 2012 21:36 GMT
#557
On January 18 2012 17:01 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 14:50 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Holy fuck...

Made a pr power snatch of 82. Then I just missed power snatching 85. I felt good so I started to snatch at 90, which I missed twice. I then said fuck it and put on 94kg for a pr. Missed it just behind the first time, then stuck the lift on the 2nd.

Went on to clean and jerk 110 and then stopped. PR total: 204kg


mad props dude! what happened that made you so much stronger in a relatively short time?


Thanks!

I went off my coaches program and tried programming myself. Max squats everyday helps.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 22:14:23
January 18 2012 22:12 GMT
#558
Seeing as we're talking about 'cardio' I figured I'd throw this out there. This is not intended to be a bragpost.

My gf and I have sex. A lot. I'd say about 10x per week. The thing isn't her pleasure - my back is always mauled, I make sure she comes at least once - it's just that the sex isn't that spectacular for me. I go pretty wild, and feel fucking exhausted at the end. It just seems like my dick isn't that sensitive. Is this normal? Do women just get the better deal with intercourse if both parties know what they're doing? It's NOT like she isn't loud or attractive, the sex just isn't mindblowing, just good.
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AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
January 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#559
I think you've just worn your dick out man, more than once a day and I'd say you're in a dick recovery deficit. I'd talk to your g/f, maybe she feels the same way anyway.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
January 18 2012 22:30 GMT
#560
Just got my SS 3rd Ed in the mail, so happy.
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