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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
July 03 2012 22:53 GMT
#4981
Should have asked for a spotter after moving up to a new weight on bench (190lb). Thought the pressure would help me will it up XD Instead I got two guys coming over to pick it up off me. sigh. oh well
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 03 2012 23:17 GMT
#4982
Hip was fucked today, couldn't pull more than 225 on deadlift.

Did the shoulders workout I missed yesterday instead. Will pull new PR on saturday.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 23:26:18
July 03 2012 23:25 GMT
#4983
On July 04 2012 07:53 mordek wrote:
Should have asked for a spotter after moving up to a new weight on bench (190lb). Thought the pressure would help me will it up XD Instead I got two guys coming over to pick it up off me. sigh. oh well


just do the roll of shame haha. you look dumb but at least you retain more pride.

question : if you complete 3x5 of an exercise for starting strength but it's reaaally hard should you go on? whenever i hit a pr it feels really fuckin heavy and i know that i'm gonna fail the next day. i've heard failing lifts too often is detrimental.

my lifts are pretty novice, ohp - 100lb BP - 120lb deadlift - 270lb p.clean - 137lb (3x5 unless 1x5 for DL or 5x3 for PC)but it's taking me like 3 sessions to add an extra 5lb on the bar for ohp/bp/cleans. it's probably cuz i'm not eating enough but i gain at least 1.5pounds a week. maybe it's because i stopped squatting for the past couple of weeks. i'll see how i do once i get back into squatting in a week or so.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 03 2012 23:27 GMT
#4984
http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/36.html

Read that for more info than you ever wanted to know about the olympic speed/strength overhead press :D I'm sure some of it is applicable to the OHP
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 03 2012 23:59 GMT
#4985
On July 04 2012 07:53 mordek wrote:
Should have asked for a spotter after moving up to a new weight on bench (190lb). Thought the pressure would help me will it up XD Instead I got two guys coming over to pick it up off me. sigh. oh well

hah, I did the same thing today. Had a bunch of bros and 2 girls around so figured it was worth the risk. Luckily it worked out better for me.
Official Entusman #21
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 04 2012 00:11 GMT
#4986
On July 04 2012 08:27 decafchicken wrote:
http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/36.html

Read that for more info than you ever wanted to know about the olympic speed/strength overhead press :D I'm sure some of it is applicable to the OHP


huh i always wondered why some people jerked with wide grip and others with a shoulder width grip.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 00:57:47
July 04 2012 00:57 GMT
#4987
heres the video, showing thumbless grip


i look forward to trying thumbless so long as i dont fuck up and lose my balance. i have struggled with my ohp grip/form since that forearm/wrist problem that i believe still persists in certain positions
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 02:26:53
July 04 2012 01:57 GMT
#4988
Last heavy workout
Snatch up to 125, missed 127 like 5 times ~~
CJ up to 143, barely missed jerk at 148

Rest day for the 4th of july then i'll probably go 60-70% on thurs/fri and then hopefully set some PRs on saturday :D

Shoulder still feels okay lifting even though i sprained it a week and half ago but it feels like my upper chest and back muscles are compensating for the ac joint ~~
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 02:05:31
July 04 2012 02:03 GMT
#4989
Sorry to derail the OHP debate, but had my bench today.
Given I'm doing smolov, instead of doing half assed benches like last time I wanna do benches tuesday/thursday and just hit the gym every day cause I'm a psycopath.

I found this program to try out, if I PR once in the entire month I'll be happy enough:

http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/the-one-drop-method-needs-formatted/

BP: 50x5, 70x5, 80x4, 90x3, 100x2, 110x1, 120x1, 122.5x1, 125x1, 95x10
DB Flies: 10kgx10x5 (straight arms, on the floor)
Tricep Kicks or smth like that: 50poundsx8x6 (will add more weight for sure next time)

Also I switch my diet from CKC to "Carb back loading". CKC was great to cut, but after a month or so I was just fed up with low carb trough the week, plus bulking is basically impossible, no way u can eat so much meat. Nevertheless I really loved it and my cutting will be for sure low carb.

http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/carb-back-loading/

2 days in so far to tell, but my energy levels and recovery are trough the roof. I was barely barely sore after smolov day 1 (122.5kgx9x4) and I'll be at full energy to squat tomorrow. Cant tell if its the diet itself or the 1.5k calores I'm taking after hitting the gym (or the creatine or the vit D, or the soon to be fish oil)

Disclaimer: There is no way Carb back loading is healthy, but seems great to bulk/maximize recovery and dont put on so much fat. Would never do it long term, though.

That said I don't give a fuck if I put some fat if I can squat 190 and bench 140 withing the following 4 weeks.
Stay strong :D

Edit @ defac
Plz open with 90% on both lifts, dont make the mistake I did on my last 2 competitions on the squat. There is a ton of stuff that is different than training at ur own pace at the gym. Depending on how first lift felt, u can go for PR on 2nd or 3rd attempt.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
July 04 2012 02:39 GMT
#4990
BP up to 235lbs so finally over body weight. Another milestone down and so many to go. I have given myself until my 30s to become the fit version of myself so lets see what I can do in the next few years.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 04 2012 05:22 GMT
#4991
Little late, but I have to congratulate malinor. 'Grats buddy :D
Victory Loves Preparation
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 04 2012 09:40 GMT
#4992
On July 04 2012 11:39 Velocirapture wrote:
BP up to 235lbs so finally over body weight. Another milestone down and so many to go. I have given myself until my 30s to become the fit version of myself so lets see what I can do in the next few years.


I have determined that I am at my "fit" version of myself, bt I am still five year of heavy training from my "TLHF" version of myself. Never satisfied, never stop!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 04 2012 12:13 GMT
#4993
On July 04 2012 11:03 GoTuNk! wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry to derail the OHP debate, but had my bench today.
Given I'm doing smolov, instead of doing half assed benches like last time I wanna do benches tuesday/thursday and just hit the gym every day cause I'm a psycopath.

I found this program to try out, if I PR once in the entire month I'll be happy enough:

http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/the-one-drop-method-needs-formatted/

BP: 50x5, 70x5, 80x4, 90x3, 100x2, 110x1, 120x1, 122.5x1, 125x1, 95x10
DB Flies: 10kgx10x5 (straight arms, on the floor)
Tricep Kicks or smth like that: 50poundsx8x6 (will add more weight for sure next time)

Also I switch my diet from CKC to "Carb back loading". CKC was great to cut, but after a month or so I was just fed up with low carb trough the week, plus bulking is basically impossible, no way u can eat so much meat. Nevertheless I really loved it and my cutting will be for sure low carb.

http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/carb-back-loading/

2 days in so far to tell, but my energy levels and recovery are trough the roof. I was barely barely sore after smolov day 1 (122.5kgx9x4) and I'll be at full energy to squat tomorrow. Cant tell if its the diet itself or the 1.5k calores I'm taking after hitting the gym (or the creatine or the vit D, or the soon to be fish oil)

Disclaimer: There is no way Carb back loading is healthy, but seems great to bulk/maximize recovery and dont put on so much fat. Would never do it long term, though.

That said I don't give a fuck if I put some fat if I can squat 190 and bench 140 withing the following 4 weeks.
Stay strong :D

Edit @ defac
Plz open with 90% on both lifts, dont make the mistake I did on my last 2 competitions on the squat. There is a ton of stuff that is different than training at ur own pace at the gym. Depending on how first lift felt, u can go for PR on 2nd or 3rd attempt.

I'm trying out backloading as well since this week. Mainly because my schedule is gonna get screwed up and I won't be able to eat as healthy, so I hope I can reduce the damage this way.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 13:34:35
July 04 2012 13:32 GMT
#4994
yesterday was awesome.

Back Squat: 80kg, 90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg, 140kg, 155kg (PRsadfas)
125kg, 130kg, 135kg, 140kg, 145kg x 3
100kg x 2 x 3

Overhead Press: 65kg x 1 x 5 / 2 x 5 x 70kg

PowerClean: 70kg x 4 x 3 / 75kg x 1 x 3

;p good workout overall, so happy about my pr squat

edit: btw, this is my third week doing the Squat Nemesis Program, and it's pretty awesome. I haven't had any "serious" DOMs, nor "I'm too tired to go at it". I always squat to max, and try to keep my other lifts up to par, next milestone is that I want to BenchPress 100kg / 220lbs (I'm at 90kg).
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extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 04 2012 16:20 GMT
#4995
Finally!
I did breat my old record in benchpress it were on 120kg, now im at 130kg! :D
Stay strong, forever strong!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 04 2012 16:36 GMT
#4996
On July 05 2012 01:20 extr3me wrote:
Finally!
I did breat my old record in benchpress it were on 120kg, now im at 130kg! :D

swiftly coming close to destroying all my best strength lifts :-/
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 04 2012 18:04 GMT
#4997
On July 05 2012 01:36 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:20 extr3me wrote:
Finally!
I did breat my old record in benchpress it were on 120kg, now im at 130kg! :D

swiftly coming close to destroying all my best strength lifts :-/


+1 plz dont bench more
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 19:31:40
July 04 2012 19:30 GMT
#4998
On July 04 2012 07:53 mordek wrote:
Should have asked for a spotter after moving up to a new weight on bench (190lb). Thought the pressure would help me will it up XD Instead I got two guys coming over to pick it up off me. sigh. oh well


The same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago, only instead of 2 guys helping me it was an older gentleman who came in the weight room with a walker. So, yeah...

Also, benching 100kg for the first time tomorrow. I'm already getting psyched up for it.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 20:10:52
July 04 2012 20:08 GMT
#4999
So today I took the train, only about 20-25 mins, and went to Strength Tec, the best Strongman gym down on the south coast. It was awesome.

They have some insane kit, including Atlas stones up to 240kg, which has only ever been lifted twice. It has all the strongman equipment you'd expect, axles, tyres, logs, cages, farmers walk, frame carry, plenty of bars, etc, etc. Loads of grip stuff (blew my forearms up today).

But on top of that their basic stuff was brilliant. To contrast, my gym at the moment is closed for renovation, and they opened up another gym up on a sports campus which you can take a bus to. There is one bar there with a bunch of people waiting for it, because the other empty gym next to it is for performance athletes only and I don't row anymore, so I'm stuck with the one cage and the bar is a proper Olympic bar. I didn't realise this, but that means the bar has almost no knurling so very little grip, and the ends just spin freely. I took the bar out the rack and the ends were wobbling all over the place. It was awful.

But all the bars at Strength Tec are are really knurled (they had a big chalk bowl as well) and the ends don't spin for 30mins after a slight twist.

All the guys there made me feel tiny though. The guy who runs the gym has been in World's Strongest Man the last few years, he's enormous. After squatting he did some one-on-one and taught me how to log press properly, and said come again and he'll teach me whatever. I thought that was awesome, I know it's his gym but I paid less than an entry fee to a normal gym and he's a World's Strongest Man competitor. He also gave me some programming advice, like I'm going to drop bench press and just press twice a week, one day focusing on going heavy and one day focusing on technique, with some dips and close grip bench as assistance; my bench will go up from that anyway so no problem. He said he hasn't benched in 3 years.


I'm going to try and make it over to this gym as often as I can. Really motivated to start training hard. I guess it sounds kinda lame, but meeting a guy that strong and being taught some stuff by him was really motivational.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#5000
Dunno, sounds pretty awesome to me. Dunno about dropping bench press though, for me that's just the one lift that is so technically easy that I can just focus on strength, which makes it fun.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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