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YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
July 05 2012 07:00 GMT
#5021
On July 05 2012 04:30 Luxae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 07:53 mordek wrote:
Should have asked for a spotter after moving up to a new weight on bench (190lb). Thought the pressure would help me will it up XD Instead I got two guys coming over to pick it up off me. sigh. oh well


The same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago, only instead of 2 guys helping me it was an older gentleman who came in the weight room with a walker. So, yeah...

Also, benching 100kg for the first time tomorrow. I'm already getting psyched up for it.


Cool, doing 100kg for the first time on saturday GL!


Why would you ever say that lifting is not practical/healthy 0.o
It helps with literally everything.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
July 05 2012 07:16 GMT
#5022
sup motherfuckers im down from 86.4kg to 84.3kg in a week lolol. I might have lost some muscle from 3 days at the beach (dehydration and drinking, I did have eggs for breakfast and fish or meat later) but still. Tuesday i was supposed to do squat 138kg 5x i ended up doing 130 for 2 doubles and a single. i failed. BUT today i smoked 135kg 5x deadlift it was fucking good, i wasnt expecting to get it. I´m fully recovered from the beach and ready to kick ass again. yeaaaaa. im doing leangains kinda. i have a hard time calculating my macros though (here in mexico my family buys our meat/chicken from the market and i have no idea the nutrients on it, i can just guess) but energy levels are feeling really good. I train around 12pm, fasted (i just drink a shake with water before) and im killing it and i am absolutely not hungry. GG bitches.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 07:31:38
July 05 2012 07:29 GMT
#5023
On July 05 2012 05:08 Deadeight wrote:
So today I took the train, only about 20-25 mins, and went to Strength Tec, the best Strongman gym down on the south coast. It was awesome.

They have some insane kit, including Atlas stones up to 240kg, which has only ever been lifted twice. It has all the strongman equipment you'd expect, axles, tyres, logs, cages, farmers walk, frame carry, plenty of bars, etc, etc. Loads of grip stuff (blew my forearms up today).

But on top of that their basic stuff was brilliant. To contrast, my gym at the moment is closed for renovation, and they opened up another gym up on a sports campus which you can take a bus to. There is one bar there with a bunch of people waiting for it, because the other empty gym next to it is for performance athletes only and I don't row anymore, so I'm stuck with the one cage and the bar is a proper Olympic bar. I didn't realise this, but that means the bar has almost no knurling so very little grip, and the ends just spin freely. I took the bar out the rack and the ends were wobbling all over the place. It was awful.

But all the bars at Strength Tec are are really knurled (they had a big chalk bowl as well) and the ends don't spin for 30mins after a slight twist.

All the guys there made me feel tiny though. The guy who runs the gym has been in World's Strongest Man the last few years, he's enormous. After squatting he did some one-on-one and taught me how to log press properly, and said come again and he'll teach me whatever. I thought that was awesome, I know it's his gym but I paid less than an entry fee to a normal gym and he's a World's Strongest Man competitor. He also gave me some programming advice, like I'm going to drop bench press and just press twice a week, one day focusing on going heavy and one day focusing on technique, with some dips and close grip bench as assistance; my bench will go up from that anyway so no problem. He said he hasn't benched in 3 years.


I'm going to try and make it over to this gym as often as I can. Really motivated to start training hard. I guess it sounds kinda lame, but meeting a guy that strong and being taught some stuff by him was really motivational.


sounds like you hit the jackpot mate wish there was a gym like that where I live!

and strength definitely has uses in everyday life. you just dont notice it because everything you do (from walking up the stairs to carrying a box for the secretary) is just ten times easier than for a weak person

@donkeys: most of that weight you lost is probably water weight so dont be surprised if you gain some of it back or your weight loss slows down significantly. dont let that stop you from cutting though!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 09:02:19
July 05 2012 07:51 GMT
#5024
Assuming an SS-style 3x a week training Mon-Wed-Fri. This week I am traveling Fri-Sun. Would you rather

a) Work out 2 days in a row (Wed-Thu)
b) Skip Fri workout

Poll: Would you rather

workout two days in a row (11)
 
79%

skip Friday workout (3)
 
21%

14 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather

(Vote): workout two days in a row
(Vote): skip Friday workout



EDIT: If options a) would you change your workout, and how? For example skip squats, do lighter weights, etc?
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
July 05 2012 08:16 GMT
#5025
OH also I bought Paul´s new e-book (lift-run-bang.com). So far I´ve read the intro and the squat chapter and it´s fucking good. Highly recomend it so far, it´s only 25 bucks. goooooo get it!
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 09:10:39
July 05 2012 09:08 GMT
#5026
zatic, i would just play it by ear, personally i might just do a load of power cleans the 2nd day

like
day1
bench squat dead
day2
power clean
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 05 2012 10:15 GMT
#5027
On July 05 2012 11:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 10:26 HeavOnEarth wrote:
I just work out to be healthy. does having more strength = better anything else aside from physical?


The strength from lifting weights is not very practical, actually it's next to useless in real world situations, the only thing it will really do for you is allow you to do things like pull yourself up somewhere or moving furniture, as well as people being more scared of you etc.

If you want to be healthy generally it's much better to do sports such as swimming and biking. Stretch a lot, eat healthy. That's what you do if you want a healthy heart and generally live longer.



It makes me feel a lot better. It's small stuff, like I jump up stairs 3 at a time, I used to skip 1 and now I skip 2. Lots of people don't skip any and still find big flights of stairs give them a hard time. I think it also helps with confidence, you just feel really capable.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 10:25:54
July 05 2012 10:24 GMT
#5028
On July 05 2012 16:51 zatic wrote:
Assuming an SS-style 3x a week training Mon-Wed-Fri. This week I am traveling Fri-Sun. Would you rather

a) Work out 2 days in a row (Wed-Thu)
b) Skip Fri workout

Poll: Would you rather

workout two days in a row (11)
 
79%

skip Friday workout (3)
 
21%

14 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather

(Vote): workout two days in a row
(Vote): skip Friday workout



EDIT: If options a) would you change your workout, and how? For example skip squats, do lighter weights, etc?



I'd workout both days in a row, but not go heavy on both. Assuming say Wed was B and Fri was A I'd try and do something like this:

Wed:
* Squat with low weight focusing on speed and technique
* OHP with lower weight focusing on speed and technique. Might be a good time to test false/thumbless grip that was talked about a few pages back (I tried it and it's alright)
* Power Cleans as normal, or if you do rows or something instead go hard on these

Thu:
* Squat heavy as normal
* Bench heavy but realise triceps may be feeling it from the day before
* Deadlift heavy as normal
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 05 2012 12:56 GMT
#5029
On July 05 2012 12:55 Froadac wrote:
See PT on next monday. (3 weeks post op rofl). My surgeon is evidently the most aggressive orthopedic surgeon when it comes to PT on the west coast.


Nice.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 13:01:33
July 05 2012 13:01 GMT
#5030
On July 05 2012 16:51 zatic wrote:
Assuming an SS-style 3x a week training Mon-Wed-Fri. This week I am traveling Fri-Sun. Would you rather

a) Work out 2 days in a row (Wed-Thu)
b) Skip Fri workout

EDIT: If options a) would you change your workout, and how? For example skip squats, do lighter weights, etc?

Since you can't work out 3 days in a row, I would do a light day on Wed and go heavy on Thurs. How you do it is really up to you. You can do oly lifting, speed work, front squats, just bodyweight exercises, etc
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extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 05 2012 13:26 GMT
#5031
Daym, ill try 250kg in deadlift when I get in mood for that
Was suposed to go deadlift today, but im ill ( sick ) so ill wait a bit for that.
Overheadpress 90kg and loggpress 80kg 3x times.

swiftly coming close to destroying all my best strength lifts :-/


+1 plz dont bench more


I want to go 150kg in benchpress, 250/280kg deadlift and atleast 220/240kg in squats.
So I have some work to do
Stay strong, forever strong!
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 05 2012 13:27 GMT
#5032
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 05 2012 13:35 GMT
#5033
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10


Good Job Lucae!
Yea, its a good thing to have 2 plates on benchpress :D
I am fighting for 3 plates 140kg...
Stay strong, forever strong!
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 05 2012 13:48 GMT
#5034
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

good job
I'm going for 1x5x100kg bench next week but it won't be 2 plates because I use lbs
Official Entusman #21
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 05 2012 13:54 GMT
#5035
On July 05 2012 22:35 extr3me wrote:
Show nested quote +
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10


Good Job Lucae!
Yea, its a good thing to have 2 plates on benchpress :D
I am fighting for 3 plates 140kg...

Thank you! Good luck with 140kg, that is *slightly* more impressive!


On July 05 2012 22:48 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

good job
I'm going for 1x5x100kg bench next week but it won't be 2 plates because I use lbs


Thanks!

And that's what you people across the ocean get for trying to be so special with your imperial units!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 05 2012 14:13 GMT
#5036
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

Congrats on the two plate bench!

Also, I've heard for bench you can just hold the weight (or more weight) than you actually want to do then just racking it. After that get the weight you want to do and it will feel easier. Like you're more prepared for it mentally. Might be the case for your squat only succeeding on the second attempt? I remember reading not to use that approach for squatting but you could maybe try it for PR's.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 05 2012 14:37 GMT
#5037
On July 05 2012 23:13 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

Congrats on the two plate bench!

Also, I've heard for bench you can just hold the weight (or more weight) than you actually want to do then just racking it. After that get the weight you want to do and it will feel easier. Like you're more prepared for it mentally. Might be the case for your squat only succeeding on the second attempt? I remember reading not to use that approach for squatting but you could maybe try it for PR's.


What you said actually makes a lot of sense to me. I think I just get very intimidated by the weight when I unrack it for the first time and it messes up my setup.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 05 2012 14:43 GMT
#5038
On July 05 2012 23:37 Luxae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:13 mordek wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

Congrats on the two plate bench!

Also, I've heard for bench you can just hold the weight (or more weight) than you actually want to do then just racking it. After that get the weight you want to do and it will feel easier. Like you're more prepared for it mentally. Might be the case for your squat only succeeding on the second attempt? I remember reading not to use that approach for squatting but you could maybe try it for PR's.


What you said actually makes a lot of sense to me. I think I just get very intimidated by the weight when I unrack it for the first time and it messes up my setup.

:D Let me know if it helps!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 05 2012 17:07 GMT
#5039
On July 05 2012 22:48 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

good job
I'm going for 1x5x100kg bench next week but it won't be 2 plates because I use lbs


What? I'm confused.

2 plates = 225 pounds = 100kg. You using pounds shouldn't change anything here, unless you're counting the weight wrong?
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 05 2012 17:11 GMT
#5040
On July 06 2012 02:07 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:48 infinity21 wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:27 Luxae wrote:
Fairly awesome workout:
Squat - 1x5 80, 100, 1x3 120, 1x2 140, 1x1F 165kg, 1x1 165kg PR. I have no idea why I keep failing my first try and getting it the second time around, it's very weird.
BP - 1x5 50, 60, 1x3 72.5, 85, 1x2F 100kg PR. Finally a two plate bench! Been waiting for a long time to accomplish this.
Chin ups - 1x5 bw, 3x3 bw+40kg
Dips - 1x5 bw, 8-8-4 bw+28kg
Hanging leg rises - 2x10

good job
I'm going for 1x5x100kg bench next week but it won't be 2 plates because I use lbs


What? I'm confused.

2 plates = 225 pounds = 100kg. You using pounds shouldn't change anything here, unless you're counting the weight wrong?

I believe 100kg is actually 220lbs, so it's 5lbs short of a 2 plate using pounds.
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