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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On July 06 2012 04:01 GoTuNk! wrote: I've back squatted girls, but its kinda a good morning cause u have to lean foward so they dont fall behind. Never tought of zercher squat them for some reason lol. Will try on friday My ex used to love being squatted. Her mom also liked it a lot. lol. funny..kinda. | ||
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affinity_12
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
job interviews/stuff going well today: OHP 45kg 8-7-5-2 much better with thumbless grip, no forearm trapped nerve problem with this grip either power clean 60kg like 25 reps, form seemed to get a bit better near the end, when i tried to keep the bar a bit nearer to me and decided where to put my shoulders. doing some high rep squats really seems to have helped my legs in the starting position. they used to burn up after 2 seconds crouching down but much better today. also leaving squats till last must help, and doesnt detract from squatting really squat 75kg 5-5-7 ish, easy but my mobility is lollsy and i have to push out my knees or lose them :/ activating my legs well tho. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On July 06 2012 08:11 Autofire2 wrote: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat-officially-incurable-according-to-science/?wa_user1=3&wa_user2=Science&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module I hate defeatist crap like this. All the success stories on TL alone...are they ALL freaks of nature? Really? This is amongs the dumber things ever written, and that in itself in one hell of an accomplishment | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
On July 06 2012 08:11 Autofire2 wrote: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat-officially-incurable-according-to-science/?wa_user1=3&wa_user2=Science&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module I hate defeatist crap like this. All the success stories on TL alone...are they ALL freaks of nature? Really? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all This is one of the links he provide to a nytimes article, which describes very much how I feel. I see you guys hate this kind of writing, I think the author is not too far of. Probably his presentation is too sensationalist. Anyway, one argument presented is that the body stays in starvation mode for ever and that some hormone that increases hunger is much stronger in formerly obese people. I have been eating ~3000kcal for 12 months now, you could with some confidence argue that my body should have adapted by now. Last weekend I visited my family and old friends. On these weekends I don't watch what I eat carefully for a couple of days, but this time I did the math in my had. We had barbecue twice and those two days I had around 7000kcal and 6000kcal, and I didn't stop because I wasn't hungry anymore, but because the day ended. This is mostly meat and vegetables, not chocolate or french fries. I think about eating every second I am awake, I can always eat. When I eat myself full, the feeling lasts for 20 minutes and I can start over. I definitely feel everything that is described in these articles. I will not consider myself cured of anything if I am not at roughly the same weight in 5 years time. My personal success story is simply a time-stamp of a much bigger goal right now. I don't think it is as bad as 2 in 1000 who successfully stay thin (as the first author proposes), but it probably is not much higher than that. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:17 Malinor wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all This is one of the links he provide to a nytimes article, which describes very much how I feel. I see you guys hate this kind of writing, I think the author is not too far of. Probably his presentation is too sensationalist. Anyway, one argument presented is that the body stays in starvation mode for ever and that some hormone that increases hunger is much stronger in formerly obese people. I have been eating ~3000kcal for 12 months now, you could with some confidence argue that my body should have adapted by now. Last weekend I visited my family and old friends. On these weekends I don't watch what I eat carefully for a couple of days, but this time I did the math in my had. We had barbecue twice and those two days I had around 7000kcal and 6000kcal, and I didn't stop because I wasn't hungry anymore, but because the day ended. This is mostly meat and vegetables, not chocolate or french fries. I think about eating every second I am awake, I can always eat. When I eat myself full, the feeling lasts for 20 minutes and I can start over. I definitely feel everything that is described in these articles. I will not consider myself cured of anything if I am not at roughly the same weight in 5 years time. My personal success story is simply a time-stamp of a much bigger goal right now. I don't think it is as bad as 2 in 1000 who successfully stay thin (as the first author proposes), but it probably is not much higher than that. I think about eating pretty much every day also, and i eat all the time but im not overweight (im rather skinny) Eating 6-7000kcal it meat and veggies seems nearly freaking impossible. You'd have to eat roughly 5-6 pounds of meat + a garbage bag of veggies to come close to that and there's no way that would fit in the stomach. I mean Micheal Phelps eats ~11000kcal a day and to consume that much energy he eats pounds of pasta, pizza and energy drinks | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On July 06 2012 22:42 AoN.DimSum wrote: decaf and i are lifting saturday 1pm us east timezone! ill link stream Dang, I'll be on the road to a wedding. Best of luck to both of you! | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
On July 06 2012 22:40 Pulimuli wrote: I think about eating pretty much every day also, and i eat all the time but im not overweight (im rather skinny) Eating 6-7000kcal it meat and veggies seems nearly freaking impossible. You'd have to eat roughly 5-6 pounds of meat + a garbage bag of veggies to come close to that and there's no way that would fit in the stomach. I mean Micheal Phelps eats ~11000kcal a day and to consume that much energy he eats pounds of pasta, pizza and energy drinks Obviously it is more meat than veggies  , but if you have barbecue for 4 hours and eat like 6-7 pieces of steak during that time, plus some salads. Add a normal breakfast and lunch plus some drinks, and you are probably already at 5k, the rest is easily consumed in between. And if Michael Phelps stomach can digest 11k calories, my stomach can handle 7k . It is what it is, even if natural skinny people cannot imagine it. | ||
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extr3me
Norway145 Posts
decaf and i are lifting saturday 1pm us east timezone! ill link stream I want to see too :D link the stream!! | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
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extr3me
Norway145 Posts
Don't know :p | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On July 07 2012 00:09 extr3me wrote: 1pm us east timezone is that 05:00 in the morning for us euro? 6pm no? | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On July 06 2012 23:35 Malinor wrote: Obviously it is more meat than veggies , but if you have barbecue for 4 hours and eat like 6-7 pieces of steak during that time, plus some salads. Add a normal breakfast and lunch plus some drinks, and you are probably already at 5k, the rest is easily consumed in between. And if Michael Phelps stomach can digest 11k calories, my stomach can handle 7k . It is what it is, even if natural skinny people cannot imagine it.I dislike the term "naturally skinny" just as much as "naturally/genetically fat". I never believed there was such a thing as a "fat-gene". Still don't as a matter of fact. I do believe old habits die hard though, and a guy that spent his whole life eating alot will definitely have a hard time adjusting to a smaller caloric intake, just like a guy that spent his whole life eating very little will have big problems stuffing more into himself. Obviously some people have different hormonal blah blah and metabolistic gah gah but the fact that fat parents have fat kids I'd say has alot more to do with eating habits than any sort of genetic predisposition. There are so many ways of explaining obesity that are way more convincing than genetics. | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On July 06 2012 21:17 Malinor wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all This is one of the links he provide to a nytimes article, which describes very much how I feel. I see you guys hate this kind of writing, I think the author is not too far of. Probably his presentation is too sensationalist. Anyway, one argument presented is that the body stays in starvation mode for ever and that some hormone that increases hunger is much stronger in formerly obese people. I have been eating ~3000kcal for 12 months now, you could with some confidence argue that my body should have adapted by now. Last weekend I visited my family and old friends. On these weekends I don't watch what I eat carefully for a couple of days, but this time I did the math in my had. We had barbecue twice and those two days I had around 7000kcal and 6000kcal, and I didn't stop because I wasn't hungry anymore, but because the day ended. This is mostly meat and vegetables, not chocolate or french fries. I think about eating every second I am awake, I can always eat. When I eat myself full, the feeling lasts for 20 minutes and I can start over. I definitely feel everything that is described in these articles. I will not consider myself cured of anything if I am not at roughly the same weight in 5 years time. My personal success story is simply a time-stamp of a much bigger goal right now. I don't think it is as bad as 2 in 1000 who successfully stay thin (as the first author proposes), but it probably is not much higher than that. totally agree with you. while I wasn't as big as you when I started out, I was definitely fat and eating like a fatboy too. 3 years later and cutting/suppressing my hunger is still very hard for me :/ On July 06 2012 22:42 AoN.DimSum wrote: decaf and i are lifting saturday 1pm us east timezone! ill link stream awesome! gl to both of you | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On July 06 2012 23:35 Malinor wrote: Obviously it is more meat than veggies , but if you have barbecue for 4 hours and eat like 6-7 pieces of steak during that time, plus some salads. Add a normal breakfast and lunch plus some drinks, and you are probably already at 5k, the rest is easily consumed in between. And if Michael Phelps stomach can digest 11k calories, my stomach can handle 7k . It is what it is, even if natural skinny people cannot imagine it.Damn Malinor, I do totally feel your pain. I feel like I am starving even a few hours after eating and it physically hurts to carry on without food. If that is what it feels like for you all the time, then you carry a heavy cross on your back. But you are one of the amazing people who is still able to battle through it, you are clearly one of the 2/100. And perhaps if you keep on track then you will be able to inspire other people. Of course there will always be fat people and to me, 2/100 sounds about right. I see so many fat people try hard for a few months then give up. Unfortunate for them, and I would never belittle anyone who tried but found it impossible. But the ones with the willpower are truly something special and larger people should be inspired by them, rather than persuaded by this defeatist article. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Same with that article. I've almost starved to death, when my Crohn's flared the first really bad time. It was almost like a hypothermia response, where your body starts shutting down non-critical functions and you stop feeling cold. | ||
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Luxae
Israel232 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
Anyway, I guess we all agree on, that no matter the reasons/ circumstances, breaking long term habbits is one of the most difficult things to do. I can't remember exactly where I saw/read it, but I believe that part of the therapy for people who are addicted to food (apparently that's a thing) is having them fast for a day, just so they can familiarize themselves with the feeling of actual hunger. Apparently that helps them distinguish that feeling of real hunger from the "I'm bored, I guess I'll eat", or the "I'm depressed, I guess I'll eat" type of feelings. I feel that most of the time I am well aware of that distinction. It is just that my brain doesn't care, it just says "so what, I crave food, give me food or I won't leave you alone". And the force is strong with the brain. I can just recommend that NYtimes article again that I linked above, I found it was a really good read just explaining why it is that hard, but still can be done if you put your mind to it. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
On July 07 2012 01:58 Malinor wrote: Well, there seems to be as many opinions as as there are people on that matter Anyway, I guess we all agree on, that no matter the reasons/ circumstances, breaking long term habbits is one of the most difficult things to do. I feel that most of the time I am well aware of that distinction. It is just that my brain doesn't care, it just says "so what, I crave food, give me food or I won't leave you alone". And the force is strong with the brain. I can just recommend that NYtimes article again that I linked above, I found it was a really good read just explaining why it is that hard, but still can be done if you put your mind to it. Meg if that stupid brain ever speaks up id just look at the colossal improvement you've made and hopefully that shuts it up :D | ||
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