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Sweden5302 Posts
On July 07 2012 01:58 Malinor wrote: Anyway, I guess we all agree on, that no matter the reasons/ circumstances, breaking long term habbits is one of the most difficult things to do. So, after like 6 months or so I got this crazy urge to smoke today :p | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On July 07 2012 01:58 Malinor wrote: Well, there seems to be as many opinions as as there are people on that matter  Anyway, I guess we all agree on, that no matter the reasons/ circumstances, breaking long term habbits is one of the most difficult things to do. I feel that most of the time I am well aware of that distinction. It is just that my brain doesn't care, it just says "so what, I crave food, give me food or I won't leave you alone". And the force is strong with the brain. I can just recommend that NYtimes article again that I linked above, I found it was a really good read just explaining why it is that hard, but still can be done if you put your mind to it. Obviously you know your body best, but those messages from your brain probably mean you're still leptin resistant. You might have to cut carbs (perhaps fairly drastically) to make steps to correct this. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On July 07 2012 03:44 Ingenol wrote: Obviously you know your body best, but those messages from your brain probably mean you're still leptin resistant. You might have to cut carbs (perhaps fairly drastically) to make steps to correct this. I think coming from a starting point as a medicated diabetic, now (correct me if I'm wrong) lifestyle controlled and nearly asymptomatic, Malinor is well aware of how carbs work. As far as the fasting/hunger response goes... idk, I just have trouble believing the urge to eat can ever be that strong (but I also have trouble understanding how you could eat 6000 cals in a day, too). The longest fast I've ever done (and remembered) is 72 hours in a hospital bed setting (water only, between surgeries), or 38 hours in an every day lifestyle setting (I got busy.). In the lifestyle setting, I was "hungry" every few hours after ~the first 18 or so, but it was never something I couldn't just put aside and keep going. Towards the end I ran out of energy, became cranky, couldn't focus, etc. but that's certainly expected. In the hospital setting it was much longer, and there wasn't much to distract me, so I was hungry more often and more severely, but my body was never screaming at me "problem, problem, danger, save us!" and so I always just shut it out of my mind and kept on chugging. Energy wise, since I didn't have practice or classwork or anything, this one was a thousand times easier. I definitely agree with Jingle though... if you think you're "starving" every few hours (or even after a day) you've never been starving before. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
On July 07 2012 04:58 phyre112 wrote: I think coming from a starting point as a medicated diabetic, now (correct me if I'm wrong) lifestyle controlled and nearly asymptomatic, Malinor is well aware of how carbs work. I don't take medication, at the moment I am battling it succesfully without. And just to clarify, of course it does nto really feel like starvation. I am very sure that this Crohn's disease is horrible and way harder to deal with than normal cravings. I never intended to draw those parallels. | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On July 07 2012 04:58 phyre112 wrote: I think coming from a starting point as a medicated diabetic, now (correct me if I'm wrong) lifestyle controlled and nearly asymptomatic, Malinor is well aware of how carbs work. As far as the fasting/hunger response goes... idk, I just have trouble believing the urge to eat can ever be that strong (but I also have trouble understanding how you could eat 6000 cals in a day, too). The longest fast I've ever done (and remembered) is 72 hours in a hospital bed setting (water only, between surgeries), or 38 hours in an every day lifestyle setting (I got busy.). In the lifestyle setting, I was "hungry" every few hours after ~the first 18 or so, but it was never something I couldn't just put aside and keep going. Towards the end I ran out of energy, became cranky, couldn't focus, etc. but that's certainly expected. In the hospital setting it was much longer, and there wasn't much to distract me, so I was hungry more often and more severely, but my body was never screaming at me "problem, problem, danger, save us!" and so I always just shut it out of my mind and kept on chugging. Energy wise, since I didn't have practice or classwork or anything, this one was a thousand times easier. I definitely agree with Jingle though... if you think you're "starving" every few hours (or even after a day) you've never been starving before. No doubt, just pointing out that he may still be leptin resistant. The jury is still out on how to best restore leptin sensitivity, though. My major point is that for metabolically deranged people the urge to eat really is THAT strong because the normal chemical signals that turn off appetite are blunted to non-existent. Further, their bodies are often so inefficient at using stored fat that when they don't eat for a while their brain literally believes they are starving despite the fact they have a surplus of energy available--they simply have great difficulty access it from a metabolic standpoint. I don't think we, as more or less metabolically normal people, can really comprehend what's going on there. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 07 2012 05:29 Malinor wrote: I don't take medication, at the moment I am battling it succesfully without. And just to clarify, of course it does nto really feel like starvation. I am very sure that this Crohn's disease is horrible and way harder to deal with than normal cravings. I never intended to draw those parallels. My immune system tries to kill my intestines occasionally, as a short version. Nasty form of IBD. My point was that hunger cravings, or just wanting to eat, have way less to do with your body's starvation mode than most people think. Properly feeling like you're starving, you reach this point where you stop feeling constantly hungry, and your body starts trying to shut down. It really is a lot like hypothermia, and it's rather horrid to experience. On the other hand, for me, being hungry and eating constantly is a pre-requisite to maintain weight. I have serious trouble gaining consistently. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
Drinked coke, had to take a day off gym since I'm too tired, and dunno, it seems like it will keep on sucking. #shitday tomorrow I'll hit the gym and be back in time to watch decaf and dinsum tear shit up in NY | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
Of course I'm not talking about medical disorders i.e chron's, that's a whole other can of worms. On a side-note, I finally figured out how to do dips without pain in my chest / clavicle area! Fuck yeah! Apparently my shoulders must've been leaning forward too much on descent -- if I just focus on bringing them back, pushing out the chest & squeezing my shoulder blades, no pain! All this time doing dips with pain, hoping it'd go away eventually, and it was a technique error! Shit, I didn't even know you could do dips wrong. They looked fine on video... Anyway, a month of totally pain-free dips so far and counting. :D | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
It's a lot like if you're in pain like from a broken bone or tooth ache, you can forget about it completely if you're occupied but uf you're trying to go to sleep and everything focuses on it and it seems really painful. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
Chalk it up to confidence, and to giving absolutely no fucks about what anyone else thinks. If the girls are laughing, the guys are going to want to be around you, and it's damn nice to not have to worry about drinking too much. I'd give TLHF 80% of the credit for the confidence that I have, so thanks guys. This song goes out to all of you. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On July 07 2012 07:33 infinity21 wrote: ordered the 2012 Adidas adiStars weightlifting shoes today :D Are they the bright red ones? I've got some Addidas weightlifting shoes and they're awesome. | ||
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